I thought that post would get some attention. I wasn't trying to stray from the obvious goal of this board i just wanted to know if anyone else had the same effects. Weam thanks for clarifying my point. I was wondering if there are any books out there that really get into the biochemistry of the effects of AS use on the body. I've looked through my chemistry and human physiology books but it doesn't go into any detail. By the way my GF knows about my use of AS and she can't wait until i get back on.