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Primordial Performance said:
I remember my first cycle from many years ago. It was 500mg/week sustanon for 6 weeks -- with a couple D-bol thrown in here and there.

Anyway, its was a good starter cycle for myself. If you choose to embark on your own, Id recommend a test enanthate cycle at a similar dose for 6-8 weeks. It’s a good basic drug to run by itself, and access your tolerance too.

I ran a lot of clomid back in the day for PCT – and that’s what most guys will tell you to use. It will work, but if your concerned about liver, emotional, ocular, or sexual health then its not really the best choice. We sell Dermacrine Sustain, and I personally believe it to be far superior to either clomid or nolva for restoring testicular function while actually being healthy.

BTW, no mater what you read in the “steroid profiles” you need to run hCG during your cycle. 125 iu EOD throughout the cycle would be all you would need. This would greatly prevent testicular atrophy and desensitization and would greatly quicken your recovery time allowing you to hold on to much more of your gains.

-Pp

Pp, would you recommend Dermacrine or Demacrine Sustain for PCT? Seems like regular Dermacrine would be what you would want for PCT.

Also, can't you use clomid or something else besides HCG shots EoD to maintain testicular size/sensitivity through a cycle. If you are poking yourself multiple times a week already, adding the EoD shots with HCG adds to the pin cushion factor. I do agree that HCG during the cycle helps maintain testicular size (because that it what I am doing now) but I'm looking for an alternative.
 
needtogetaas said:
I would but why wast the k.lol its much funner to just red him all the time. :)

Damn would you learn to spell. I bet your not older then 14. I have kids your age dumb ass.

msam76 (she-man) does not want me to take anymore of her customers away. Thats why she wants me gone. Her I hate. Needtogetas and I enjoy going back and forth about BS. He is not that bad of a guy. We just dont see thing the same way. I will say he does have some good info most of the time!!


All in fun, most of the time!!!
 
tshoot said:
Pp, would you recommend Dermacrine or Demacrine Sustain for PCT? Seems like regular Dermacrine would be what you would want for PCT.

Also, can't you use clomid or something else besides HCG shots EoD to maintain testicular size/sensitivity through a cycle. If you are poking yourself multiple times a week already, adding the EoD shots with HCG adds to the pin cushion factor. I do agree that HCG during the cycle helps maintain testicular size (because that it what I am doing now) but I'm looking for an alternative.

I recommend Derma Sustain for PCT, as it will have a more positive effect on LH/FSH.

As Im sure you know, HCG is shot SubQ with a slin pin... so it really is a very easy shot. As an alternative to HCG on keeping testicular size during cycle, you might wanna check this out –
http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/potratz/opioid-modulation.htm

-Pp
 
Primordial Performance said:
I recommend Derma Sustain for PCT, as it will have a more positive effect on LH/FSH.

As Im sure you know, HCG is shot SubQ with a slin pin... so it really is a very easy shot. As an alternative to HCG on keeping testicular size during cycle, you might wanna check this out –
http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/potratz/opioid-modulation.htm

-Pp

Thanks Pp- thought the shot could given either Sub-Q or intramuscularly - although sub-Q with a slin pin is easier.

I read the article but I am not familiar with the compounds listed. Can you boil it down to laymen's terms for the A.D.D. crowd? Also, are those compounds already available pre-made elsewhere and I just haven't seen them referenced before?

Thanks for the info.
 
tshoot said:
Thanks Pp- thought the shot could given either Sub-Q or intramuscularly - although sub-Q with a slin pin is easier.

I read the article but I am not familiar with the compounds listed. Can you boil it down to laymen's terms for the A.D.D. crowd? Also, are those compounds already available pre-made elsewhere and I just haven't seen them referenced before?

Thanks for the info.

I haven’t sourced the compounds so I couldn’t tell ya – but I bet they could be found for “research purposes”.

The idea behind the article is that the opioid antagonists will block the suppressive effects that AAS have on the hypothalamus and pituitary, so they can continue releasing LH and FSH as normal, and preserve testicular size and sensitivity.

-Pp
 
karter said:
Damn would you learn to spell. I bet your not older then 14. I have kids your age dumb ass.

msam76 (she-man) does not want me to take anymore of her customers away. Thats why she wants me gone. Her I hate. Needtogetas and I enjoy going back and forth about BS. He is not that bad of a guy. We just dont see thing the same way. I will say he does have some good info most of the time!!


All in fun, most of the time!!!

Unless you are a whore like me, then I have no idea what you mean by customers. Unless you are talking about your shitty ug business. That horrible quality no one compete with. Funny how you say you are just kidding, I think you are just tired of being in the red all the time.
 
msam76 said:
Unless you are a whore like me, then I have no idea what you mean by customers. Unless you are talking about your shitty ug business. That horrible quality no one compete with. Funny how you say you are just kidding, I think you are just tired of being in the red all the time.


Ok you gay whore. I think you should be on a different web site then this. More like gaywhore.com

Is this why you take more test then most men?
 
Primordial Performance said:
I haven’t sourced the compounds so I couldn’t tell ya – but I bet they could be found for “research purposes”.

The idea behind the article is that the opioid antagonists will block the suppressive effects that AAS have on the hypothalamus and pituitary, so they can continue releasing LH and FSH as normal, and preserve testicular size and sensitivity.

-Pp

Do you personally know of anybody that has tried this regime? Also, looks like part of this needs to be done with shots - similar to the HCG protocol. Or, can this be accomplished with all oral compounds?
 
tshoot said:
Do you personally know of anybody that has tried this regime? Also, looks like part of this needs to be done with shots - similar to the HCG protocol. Or, can this be accomplished with all oral compounds?

I dont know anyone who has tried this -- yet. The article was just released a week ago.

Naltrexone and nalmefene are both orally active.

You might want to start a thread on this topic if you want more thoughts/opinions.

-Pp
 
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