Pct for first time low dosage?

[THIBS]

Hey, first time. I'm 5'10" 160. I can get up to 180 with heavy eating and lots of protein but I usually drop right back to 160 when I go offshore. Most of my gain is in size but I've been finding it hard to get the definition I'm looking for.

I'm looking to take a cycle of test pro and winn in mild dosage. What kind of pct should I run during and after?

 

[josgym]

Clomid 50 mg Pct

 

[Jbranken]

Well if you don't know how to eat then how do you expect a cycle to work for you? It's not magic... Diet and training will always determine the majority of your gains, not steroids

 

[THIBS]

Yea it's work mostly. No schedule, long hours and cooks are always trying to feed us fried food. I eat healthy but find it hard to keep my weight up doing so. I'm not in need of magic or miracles. I'm in good shape just looking for more definition.

 

[NegroPops]

The key to making and keeping gains is diet and training. Steroids and PCT are secondary to this. When you have the first part down.. then the second part can become a great benefit.

What is your cycle history exactly? And what are you doing offshore that makes it hard to keep your gains?

 

[Nelson Montana]

Clomid 50 mg Pct

CLomid sucks. HCG, UNLEASHED/PF POST-CYCLE, A-dex, BRIDGE.

 

[tha_Waco_kid]

Clomid 50 mg Pct

I like clomid personally, and this ^^^ is probably all you'll need. However it isn't the popular choice on EF, so you'll get differing opinions. Do your research and figure out which way you want to go. Or just use both (clomid and natty stack), to be safe.

I would never go into a pct without a serm. The natty products are nice additions but they didn't do the job for me in the past when I experimented with an all natty pct. my personal experience I what has defined my opinion on the topic.

 

[THIBS]

The key to making and keeping gains is diet and training. Steroids and PCT are secondary to this. When you have the first part down.. then the second part can become a great benefit.

What is your cycle history exactly? And what are you doing offshore that makes it hard to keep your gains?

When I was about 19 or 20 ( I already know this was a dumb move on my part I don't need a lecture.) I was given some test prop. I had no pct in fact didnt even know what pct was. I took a few shots and never saw the miracle I was under the impression I'd have. 6 years later I've done more research and know what I want and have an idea of how to get it.

I am a commercial diver. I spend a lot of time in the water and the offshore industry sometimes works 16 hr days never less than 12s 7 days a week. The problem with keeping my weight up is the food we are fed on a daily. We don't have many options and when it comes to eating healthy rather than the usual slop, I drop back down to my usual weight.

I am looking to use steroids as a bridge from my life on land, where I can eat the way I want and train/sleep proper hours, in between the time I spend offshore. I plan to try a cycle using low dosage and see if it helps. I don't even have anything or know where to get anything. I'm just researching a cycle I'm interested in maybe trying.

 

[THIBS]

I like clomid personally, and this ^^^ is probably all you'll need. However it isn't the popular choice on EF, so you'll get differing opinions. Do your research and figure out which way you want to go. Or just use both (clomid and natty stack), to be safe.

I would never go into a pct without a serm. The natty products are nice additions but they didn't do the job for me in the past when I experimented with an all natty pct. my personal experience I what has defined my opinion on the topic.

I appreciate the personal experience. Do you know of any other sites that give more info. I'm having trouble navigating this one without paying money for info. I've just been searching post really and most that are relevant are old as fuck. I had other sites that went in depth on whatever you were looking for a few years ago but can't remember the name of it.

 

[RickRock13]

What is your age now?

 

[THIBS]

what is your age now?

26

 

[tha_Waco_kid]

I appreciate the personal experience. Do you know of any other sites that give more info. I'm having trouble navigating this one without paying money for info. I've just been searching post really and most that are relevant are old as fuck. I had other sites that went in depth on whatever you were looking for a few years ago but can't remember the name of it.

Well I don't want you to mis understand me, as I think EF has a ton of great info and there are very helpful and experienced members here. All I'm saying is 'traditional pct' is challenged here, which is a good thing! We should always be open to new and better ways of doing things. Everyone is different and some folks respond to traditional pct and some don't. Same with the new natty versions. I just happen to be a person who still responds to the tried and true serm strategy.

Most folks here do still recommend clomid for pct, just with additional natty supps included to cover all the bases. Some bypass clomid and seems altogether which seems to be working for them.