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PCT expectations & actual reality
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I think anyone who thinks they are 100% GTG after 4 weeks of PCT is kidding themselves .
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lol I would come home from work and the gf would be there. She would say, did you have a rough day and I would be like "yes...
". Then she would say come here and give me a hug and I would start crying. I was like wtf is going on
lol I would come home from work and the gf would be there. She would say, did you have a rough day and I would be like "yes...
LMFAO just the thought of some 200 + lb guy breaking down over nothing cracks me up
PCT is one of the most misunderstood aspects of cycle use.
Too many people think you just need to do this and that and voila' you're back to normal. Not so.
Remember, just a few years ago, guys were giving advice such as "you can;t take too much nolvadex -- it's just playing it safe." Of course, that's retarded advice. But that's the wisdom of self professed message board gurus.
Drugs help control sides of PC -- but you need your body to get back on track, which is why I developed supplements that help the body do just that -- recover, instead of masking the symptoms.
Clomid blows gaping ass. Even in people where it helps, the "recovery" ends when you stop using it. It's essentially worthless IMO, though some people like using it along with the supps.
Also, to truely recover the HPTA to 100% I believe in DOUBLE tie off to time on. In this way you can cycle for many years with no problems. With products like BRIDGE, that makes the in-between time that much easier and more productive.
Too many people think you just need to do this and that and voila' you're back to normal. Not so.
Remember, just a few years ago, guys were giving advice such as "you can;t take too much nolvadex -- it's just playing it safe." Of course, that's retarded advice. But that's the wisdom of self professed message board gurus.
Drugs help control sides of PC -- but you need your body to get back on track, which is why I developed supplements that help the body do just that -- recover, instead of masking the symptoms.
Clomid blows gaping ass. Even in people where it helps, the "recovery" ends when you stop using it. It's essentially worthless IMO, though some people like using it along with the supps.
Also, to truely recover the HPTA to 100% I believe in DOUBLE tie off to time on. In this way you can cycle for many years with no problems. With products like BRIDGE, that makes the in-between time that much easier and more productive.
this is a good thread.
I tried the natty PCT and my test levels were 98. then i tried the hcg/clomid PCT and it was 119. I think it takes a lot longer to recover then people think.
many cyclists run a 16 week cycle or whatever then run a 1 month PCT, then go 16 weeks off.. and then think they can jump right back on a cycle and be GTG. then 5 years later of doing this over and over again they figure out they are screwed and now must go on HRT FOREVER!!
after much deliberation I have decided to run ONE cycle per year.. that is all.. the cycle will happen during the cooler months of the year .. and also the cycle will be no longer then 10 weeks.. on sustanon you will get a 13 week window, that is a bit more then 3 months to work your ASS OFF in the gym. then you spend the rest of the year mantaining those gains and recovering.
I believe this is the best way.
I tried the natty PCT and my test levels were 98. then i tried the hcg/clomid PCT and it was 119. I think it takes a lot longer to recover then people think.
many cyclists run a 16 week cycle or whatever then run a 1 month PCT, then go 16 weeks off.. and then think they can jump right back on a cycle and be GTG. then 5 years later of doing this over and over again they figure out they are screwed and now must go on HRT FOREVER!!
after much deliberation I have decided to run ONE cycle per year.. that is all.. the cycle will happen during the cooler months of the year .. and also the cycle will be no longer then 10 weeks.. on sustanon you will get a 13 week window, that is a bit more then 3 months to work your ASS OFF in the gym. then you spend the rest of the year mantaining those gains and recovering.
I believe this is the best way.
A perfect example of misleading information. Did you use the clomid AFTERWARD -- because you were longer along in the recovery, so the CLomid probably did nothing. AND you used HCG, which of course will raise test TEMPORARILY. ANd what natty route did you take? POST CYCLE and UNLEASHED? If so, I can;t believe your free wasn;t higher.
There are also a million other factors. Time, dosage, duration of cycles -- what substances were used. It all matters.
Smart move doing shorter cycles. It does help in recovery. This "you're shut down anyway so it doesn;t matter" mentality is off base.
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