Papervar! 7 or 9 weeks?

[reelbig004]

I've decided to do my second cycle-it will be Papervar only at 40mg per day. I'm sure many of you have dealt with the decision to run it for 7 weeks or roughly nine, because of the price break down. Hoping to get some feedback on what would be better. Basically, is the extra 2 weeks going to make a big difference. If so Im willing to shell out the extra cash. My goals are at least 10 pounds of muscle.

Currently: 6'3", 190, 7% body fat, 22


Thanks bros

 

[reelbig004]

Another option is 30mg for 9 weeks, as opposed to 40 for 7 at the same cost. What do you guys think?

 

[gretak911]

I've not yet used the papervar but have used other paper products. At your height and weight I think that if the var is the only aas you are going to run I would run it at 40mg for the 7 weeks. 10lbs is alot of muscle to get from var alone. I think that even if you only gain 5-7lbs, at 7% bf it will look like more. I'm sure you know to eat a ton of protein and take like 10grams of creating per day along with the var.

 

[reelbig004]

Yeah I will be eating 300-400 grams of protein a day and will up the calories to at least 5000. I am going to remain eating clean.

 

[_Yossarian_]

Yeah I will be eating 300-400 grams of protein a day and will up the calories to at least 5000. I am going to remain eating clean.

I would have to spend all day preparing and eating to consume 5000 clean calories every day. I would love to see what your diet looks like...

 

[wootoom]

im going with 7 weeks 50mg/ed with papevar and then 60mg/ed with british dragon for 3 weeks

 

[reelbig004]

wootom,
How have you been eating on your current papervar cycle and what have your gains been like? What week are you in? Any sides?

 

[serbyte]

i say you do 40mg ed for 6 weeks to put on good size, and the last two weeks you run it 20mg to solidify what you have gained.

 

[junk]

I'm thinking about going with 80mg of var (BD) for 8 weeks (but may extend this to 12 weeks.. hope the liver can take it.

 

[lilbob1]

what size are the pieces of paper var comes as? total size not cut yet?

 

[Creepusmaximus]

It's not really paper it's more like card board.

 

[supreme]

Paper 60 mg/ day 9 weeks rocks!; did with Gh & T3 - awesome LBM , low BF% and could raise cals to 3000 -4000 based on training

using 60 mg aquasolutions /day 9weeks, with GH & T3 - adding in 400 - 600 mg EQ.

Think this will really kick ass!

S

 

[GenSci26]

Nice cycle Supreme, what kind of strength gains did you get on the main lifts? Also how much T3?

 

[beastboy]

Go for 16!

And 5000 clean calories? Holy crap! I hope you don't get the diet suppression from var that most do, or you may be puking up 3000 of those.

 

[reelbig004]

What do the rest of you guys think about Junks proposed 6 weeks at 40mg/day and last 2 weeks at 20mg/day? I haven't seen many people suggest running it like this with a taper.

 

[supreme]

Well I gained between 15-20% on squats, deads, only about 10% on the clean & jerk because I'm rehabbing a shoulder - hence the Nutropin Depot.

Strength went up quick because coming back from injury layoff, could have done better but taking it slow so no more injuries. I'm adding EQ in 2 weeks and expect strength to really improve

Didn't use creatine either because bloats me bad and I want to see how the new aqua var works, so far its awesome!

only 25 mcg/day T3 to off set the lowered T3 due to GH use.

S

 

[wootoom]

hey reelbig, my gains have been good gained lbm and gained a toner look. no side effects at all either. i am going to go on a higher dosage with bd just to compare the two. papevar is great to though. good luck

 

[tournesol]

>>wootoom: who many kilos did you gain yet ?

Anyone who tried BD anavar ??

 

[reelbig004]

wootoom,

How many pounds was that? And what does your diet look like?
Protein, Carbs and Calories?

 

[ripper2]

I'm thinking about going with 80mg of var (BD) for 8 weeks (but may extend this to 12 weeks.. hope the liver can take it.

junk... when are you going to start this cycle? i'd be interested to see/hear your results.

im planning a 75mg/day var (inject) + 75mg/day 4-oht (inject) cycle starting in june and running ~12wks.

if you run your cycle before that, definitly post your experience on it.

 

[geopharm]

I tried BD Oxanabol 10mg but ran it only for 3 weeks due to injury even then could feel a very good effect at the gym.

 

[junk]

junk... when are you going to start this cycle? i'd be interested to see/hear your results.

im planning a 75mg/day var (inject) + 75mg/day 4-oht (inject) cycle starting in june and running ~12wks.

if you run your cycle before that, definitly post your experience on it.

If I start my cycle it would probably be within a month... so will update.. though I'm not set on using var @80mg.. may add another substance but not sure.

 

[babbabuee]

What do the rest of you guys think about Junks proposed 6 weeks at 40mg/day and last 2 weeks at 20mg/day? I haven't seen many people suggest running it like this with a taper.

doesn't sound like a bad idea, but if it was me, I'd do the 7wks at 40mg. then again, I'd most definitely run at least one injectible with it, test or primo.

and seriously dude, I'd love to see how you are gonna get 5000 clean calories 300-400grams of protien. I'm not talking shit, I'm honestly curious because when I was reaching the 5000calorie mark, I had to eat just about everything in sight, all day long.

 

[reelbig004]

and seriously dude, I'd love to see how you are gonna get 5000 clean calories 300-400grams of protien. I'm not talking shit, I'm honestly curious because when I was reaching the 5000calorie mark, I had to eat just about everything in sight, all day long.

To answer the question in short, I will be consuming between 60 and 80 grams of protein with each of 6 meals (3 Protein Shakes and 3 regular meals). The one thing that I am going to add to my diet that I currently keep to a minimum is olive oil and flax oil which will contribute an additional 1200+ calories. Other than that, I am going to be eating as much of the following as I can:

Cranberry Juice
Baked Potatoes
Rice
Milk
Oatmeal
Eggs
Chicken
Steak
Cottage Cheese