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PaperBol/Strol cycle sides

rtnhrtnh

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My current situation limits me to paper only cycles, so I'll be running 10mg Bol / 20mg Strol ED for six weeks. (While that may seem low to some, I'm in a lower weight class than the rest of the forum.)

From those of who have actually run Dbol and Strol together before, I'd greatly appreciate any information you can share on the gains you experienced and the sides you encountered. I'd search, but it's not working for me and given my weight, I'm a special case anyway. ;)

As always, karma and thanks.

Yes, DNP works, but you're a moron and you'll kill yourself so don't do it.
 
I've ran dbol and winny on the same cycle before but never at the same time.

If this is your first cycle I think its great to stick with 1-2 AAS to see what works for ya. I would try the dbol for the first 4 weeks and then finish up with the winny for another 4 weeks.

I don't know why you would want to take something to bulk you up and another to cut you at the same time, so I would split em up. ~2big
 
This is not my first cycle, but I appreciate the input.

The idea behind running a bulker and a cutter is quality gain -- lean muscle mass. I have to maintain low %bf and water because I model.

I'm hoping the combination of dbol and winny will allow my to avoid the majority of the bol-related side effects, mainly bloat and gyno.

Thanks again.
 
You won't find many people running 2 liver toxic orals that are used for exact opposite results...

My advice... Drop the phobia/getcreative and stick ur ass with Test/Tren/Dbol for bulk or Tren/Winny/LowTest for cutter... You can't beat it...
 
Apparently I'm a newbie, is strol winstrol? I can't believe that I just asked that. Flame away, I have it coming.
 
Yes, Strol's just another short name for Winstrol or Stanzalol. Some sources like to be cute and keep making up their own names.
 
And for the many on the board who don't understand liver toxicity (this is not a swipe at the guys who responded, but just correcting a general misunderstanding by the community), taking two different 17 alpha alkylated substances is no hard on your liver than taking the same dose of one 17aa substance.

Basically 30mg dbol ed == 10mg dbol + 20mg winstrol ed.

They're equally toxic. No more, no less.
 
rtnhrtnh said:
And for the many on the board who don't understand liver toxicity (this is not a swipe at the guys who responded, but just correcting a general misunderstanding by the community), taking two different 17 alpha alkylated substances is no hard on your liver than taking the same dose of one 17aa substance.

Basically 30mg dbol ed == 10mg dbol + 20mg winstrol ed.

They're equally toxic. No more, no less.

Not exactly. In regards to the 17aa carbon, yes they are both the same. However, the parent compounds are different and Dbol itself maybe more toxic than stanozolol or anadrol. Again, not on the toxicity caused by the the 17 alpha alkyl group, but the toxicicity caused by the remaining compound.
 
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