PaperBol/Strol cycle sides

[Anthony Starks]

Not exactly. In regards to the 17aa carbon, yes they are both the same. However, the parent compounds are different and Dbol itself maybe more toxic than stanozolol or anadrol. Again, not on the toxicity caused by the the 17 alpha alkyl group, but the toxicicity caused by the remaining compound.

Well said, a lot of people have trouble understanding this.

BTW, if you are limited to only paper products I would rec a cycle of var 40-60mg ed for 10 weeks.

 

[rtnhrtnh]

Not exactly. In regards to the 17aa carbon, yes they are both the same. However, the parent compounds are different and Dbol itself maybe more toxic than stanozolol or anadrol. Again, not on the toxicity caused by the the 17 alpha alkyl group, but the toxicicity caused by the remaining compound.

True, and a very good point to make.

Oh, and no, those are my only paper options for this cycle.

 

[terrapin]

I agree with the Var doses stated above. Or you could start wit 4 weeks paper Tbol and switch to var for 6 weeks. Good luck

 

[Throw2Far]

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And for the many on the board who don't understand liver toxicity (this is not a swipe at the guys who responded, but just correcting a general misunderstanding by the community), taking two different 17 alpha alkylated substances is no hard on your liver than taking the same dose of one 17aa substance.

Basically 30mg dbol ed == 10mg dbol + 20mg winstrol ed.

They're equally toxic. No more, no less.

Obviously its only 30mg 17aa and I know guys that run 100mg 17aa a day, however I just don't see the benefit of running low dose dbol and winstrol ?

You are running a high anabolic with a mild anabolic. 10mg of Dbol will not provide sufficient androgenic response, therefore you need a primary androgen in your cycle. If you are stuck on paper only then do 25mg Var and 25mg Dbol ED.