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pahayden_14

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I got my need2slin yesterday and am looking forward to seeing what it can do. I've seen from other peoples logs that some are taking before meals and others take pre/post workout. I decided to take 30 mins before meals and will see how that treats me.

Today has been my first full day of taking need2slin and I took 2 pills 30 mins before breakfast and another 2 pills 30 mins before my main meal. So far I haven't noticed anything different and didn't have any increase in energy or an increase in pump during my workout. I got some advice from Mad_Max21 and tomorrow will try 1 pill before breakfast, 1 pill before lunch, 1 pill before dinner and 1 pill before bed to see if it will work better for me.

My diet is clean and I eat every 2-3 hours, making sure I get a good balance of protein and carbs. I've just come off a 8 week cycle which consisted of a kick start of test prop (weeks 1&2), anadrol (weeks 1-4), test cyp (weeks 1-8). Have been running proviron thoughout and have just started 10 days of hcg before pct.

Todays workout:

Delts

Seated rotating dumbbell press superset with upright dumbbell row - 2x15
Static lateral raises - 3x10
W press - 1 set
Mini press behind neck - 3x10
Leaning cable contractions - 2 sets

Traps

Seated dumbbell shrugs - 2x10
Upright barbell row - 3x10
Power cleans - 2x6
Seated rows with elbows high - 2x12

Was a good workout, but nothing different from my usual. Am hoping I might notice more tomorrow when I do back, biceps and serratus.
 
Just got back from the gym, didn't notice anything too different today apart from the fact that my 3 mile cycle home seemed a bit easier than usual. I'm hoping that the slin just needs a few days to build up in my system for me to start experiencing the mental pumps, energy and vascularity that other users are reporting.

Today was my last day of T3 which really does the business, especially when stacked with clen. I only take T3 when on a cycle of AAS, and will be interested to see what happens with my weight now that the slin has to pick up the slack. My weight hasn't altered so far while being on slin, I'm at 87kg at the moment and check it every day I can see what is going on.

I usually shoot for around 275g-300g a day for protein and am getting around 300g carbs a day.

Workout today:

Back:

Bent over barbell rows - 10x10
Wide grip pull up - 5x10
Seated cable row - 5x10
Reverse grip lat pulldown - 5x12

Biceps:

Cable biceps curls - 10x10
Incline alternating biceps curls - 3x to failure

Forearms:

Reverse wrist curls - 2x to failure
Wrist curls - 2x to failure

Serratus:

One arm cable pull down - 3x12
Barbell pullovers - 3x12

I did feel like I could do more, but that isn't unusual for me. I try to keep my sessions under an hour and a half.

I rest over the weekend, but will do some isometric neck exercises and abs tomorrow.
 
Hey - missed reading your stats in there somewhere? Seems like you take in a decent amount of carbs and you're riding home - so more of an endurance athlete? You didn't list the amount of weight you're listing on your sets so hard to tell? What are your goals? Also with the slin, as they've been talking recently it's actually a pretty strong repartitioner, and that 2 capsules at a time is not needed - did RS or Needto advise you on your dosage? Just curious? I take it myelf so always interested in the methodology. In for the ride to see how you're doing. :)
 
I felt the effects almost the first day!
In our case, since you are just coming out of a cycle, and just entering PCT, I wonder if maybe the need2slin is just going to replace the effects in energy from steroids. So in other words, you won't feel or see difference in that aspect. However, after about 2-3 weeks, you should see effects in body composition; leaner, dry, vascular.
 
Will try and fill a bit more info for people who want to know. I'm 31, 6'1" and as of today I weigh 88.1kg (up 1.1kg since yesterday).

I was more in to cycling and running but shifted to bodybuilding after getting shin splints. I started out by just working out at home using free weights, but when my gains stopped due to not having enough weight I joined a gym. I've being going to the gym now 4 times a week for 6 months and have been making solid gains. I was bulking while on my last AAS cycle so was making sure I got plenty of protein and carbs to build gains. I've cut back a bit on carbs since ending my cycle and figure I'm on around 250g a day now.

Here is a sample diet that is typical for me:

Breakfast - Banana, oatmeal (with a bit of honey, raisins and flax seed), boiled egg and german rye bread with organic PB.

Pre Workout - 2 scoops whey, 7 small scoops pulse, 2 small scoops creatine ee, 2.5 small scoops bcaa

Post Workout - 1 scoop whey, 1 scoop casein, 1/2 scoop pepto pro, 1/2 scoop vitagro pure, 1/2 scoop maltadextrin, 2 small scoops creatine ee, 2.5 small scoops bcaa

Lunch - Roasted chicken without skin, boiled potatoes, veg (green beans, broccoli, cauliflower)

Afternoon Snack - Wholewheat pita bread, 1/2 can tuna, lettuce, extra light mayo

Early Evening - Oatmeal with 1 scoop true whey, mixed nuts (almonds, cashews, walnuts, brazil nuts), apple

Evening Snack - Wholewheat tortilla wrap, chicken breast, lettuce, extra light mayo

Before Bed - 1.5 scoops casein, 2 small scoops bcaa

After talking to max I now take the slin 1 pill at a time which is 30 mins before breakfast, lunch, early evening meal and bed. I've had a couple of times where I got bad acid reflux after taking the slin and have noticed that I am feeling more hungry (maybe the slin is using the nutrients for my muscles and making me feel less full?) and this morning I've been feeling pretty hot.

I did some isometric neck exercises and some Nelson Montana ab work (which really feels like it works).

My goals are to put on more lean muscle and to see more definition. I don't have any problem bodyparts, but am doing an extra back workout each week to help with my lats and also an extra bicep workout to get a better peak.

I've tried all sorts of different supplements and aas looking to find what works for me and what doesn't. I've never crashed after an aas cycle, never suffered from gyno, have never really lost any gains I've made while on aas, and don't experience any increased energy/endurance/strength while on cycle, but make gains that I am happy with.

Next time I do a gym session I will post the weights I'm doing. The routine I'm doing doesn't call for me to go heavy, but use perfect form and slow/controlled rep speed.
 
Will keep you updated day by day, and more if I notice anything else going on. I'm really feeling the heat from the slin at the moment, it feels the same as when stacking t3/clen so maybe it is having some thermogenic effect.

Does anyone have any experience of using Forged Liver Support and Post Cycle? Just wondering what I can expect from them.
 
Having a rest day. So far, the only things I've noticed since starting need2slin is that I feel hot a lot of the time and that I feel hungrier than usual.

Looking forward to getting back in to the gym tomorrow and hitting it hard.
 
pahayden_14 said:
Having a rest day. So far, the only things I've noticed since starting need2slin is that I feel hot a lot of the time and that I feel hungrier than usual.

Looking forward to getting back in to the gym tomorrow and hitting it hard.
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When food is being shuttled into the muscles properly, you will get hungry a lot faster, which is a good thing!:D
 
andrew732 said:
When food is being shuttled into the muscles properly, you will get hungry a lot faster, which is a good thing!:D
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yup usually within the two hr mark is when i noticed it setting in as well!!

i also notice the hotness a bit too, as well as killer pumps!
 
I weighed 88.9kg today.

I killed it in the gym today, had mad focus and my endurance was amazing. I felt like I could just keep going, so I hope that's down to need2slin. Didn't have killer pumps, just my usual which are pretty good anyway.

Todays workout -

Chest:

Dumbbell flye - 2x12 @ 10kg
Parallel bar dips - 3 sets to failure
Smith bench press - 40kgx8, 50kgx8, 50kgx8
Smith incline bench press - 3x8 @ 40kg
Smith decline bench press - 30kgx8, 35kgx8, 40kgx8
Machine chest press - 3x8 @ 54.5kg
Cable crossover - 36kgx25

Triceps:

Standing triceps pressdown - 2x15 @ 41kg
Barbell skull crusher - 3 sets to failure @ 15kg
Seated single dumbbell triceps extension - 3x12 @ 12kg
Close grip bench press - 20kgx12, 25kgx12, 25kgx12
Bench dip - 3 sets to failure
Kneeling rope pulls - 2x12 @ 32kg

Biceps:

Cable biceps curl - 10x10 @ 22.5kg
Unilateral cable bicep curl - 3 sets to failure @ 18kg

Abs:

Weighted crunch - 4 sets to failure @ 10kg
superset with
Incline reverse crunch - 4 sets to failure

I felt that I could have kept going and done more, but decided I should end it there because I had been going at it hard and knew that my cortisol levels would just keep getting higher the longer I carried on. I ended my workout off by doing HIIT on my cycle home.

As the aas part of my cycle has been over for a week now and I will be starting pct in a week I decided that I would cut down my diet a bit. I will cut out some carbs from breakfast, afternoon snack and evening snack. I don't think that they will have a negative effect on the slin because I take them with my main meals and before bed so the carbs in between meals aren't needed in as high a quantity and I hope it will help the slin to lean me out even more.
 
My weight today is 88.3kg, so just a bit under yesterday.

My workout today was good, still a high level of focus and plenty of stamina, which is a welcome bonus on leg day.

Legs:

Smith squats - 6x50kg, 6x60kg, 6x70kg, 6x75kg, 6x75kg, 6x70kg, 6x60kg, 6x50kg
Smith one and a half squats - 3x6 @ 40kg
Smith bulgarian split squats - 3x6 @ 30kg (each leg)
Smith alternating seated calf raise - 75x50kg (each leg)
Seated leg curl - 25x45.5kg, 20x54.5kg, 15x63.5kg
Machine leg curl - 3 sets to failure @ 54.5kg (I use a really slow controlled negative and held at peak contraction)

Back:

T-bar bent over row - 10x25kg, 3x10 @50kg
Close grip underhand lat pulldown - 5x12 @ 36kg
Wide grip pull up - 5 sets to failure
Cable seated close row - 5x10 @ 45kg

For all the back exercises I used very short rest periods (10-15 secs) between sets.

I usually take casein protein before bed, and am wondering what you guys think about doing this and taking a need2slin before bed (which is what have been doing).
 
My weight was 88.3kg again today.

I don't go to the gym today, so it's mostly a rest day. I did do some work on my abs and got a real good burn in them.

I am not experiencing the feelings of being hot any more, but I do still feel hungry even though I'm eating every 2.5-3 hours.
 
Todays weight: 89.1kg

I've been on need2slin for a week now and haven't been able to report the same benefits as other users. I'm keeping an open mind and hoping that I will get the benefits when I've been on it for longer. I have noticed that I am able to get through an intense workout with great focus, and that I have an increase in appetite (I will feel hungry after a meal when I've taken need2slin 30mins before). I have gained 2.1kg since starting need2slin even though my food intake is down and is my diet is clean. The last 2 nights I have been extremely tired about mid evening. I started to take HCGenerate today and am hoping that this will give a lift before I start PCT.

Todays workout

Delts:

Seated rotating dumbbell press superset with dumbbell upright row - 3x15 @ 10kg for each (warmup)
Static lateral raise - 3x10 @ 4kg holding for 8 seconds (even a light weight gives me a massive burn on this)
W presses - 3 sets to failure @ 8kg
Barbell mini presses behind neck - 3x10 @ 10kg
Bar military press - 6x15kg, 6x20kg, 6x25kg, 6x30kg, 4x35kg
Cable rear lateral raise - 8x9kg, 8x11.5kg, 8x11.5kg (each side)

Traps:

Dumbbell shrugs - 10x28kg, 10x32kg, 10x34kg, 10x36kg
Upright barbell rows (wide grip) - 3x10 @ 30kg alternating with
Upright barbell rows (narrow grip) - 3x10 @ 30kg
Power cleans - 6x45kg, 3x45kg (I wanted the second set to be a full 6 reps, but my left wrist wasn't going to let me)
Seated rows with elbows high - 6x12 @ 45kg
Unilateral cable shrug - 3 sets to failure @ 68kg

My delts were fried and had a deep burn after the workout and the unilateral cable shrugs finished off my traps perfectly. I didn't notice until I was taking off my gloves, but my forearms had insane pump and felt like solid concrete. I didn't feel it at all in my forearms while working out, it was only when I touched them after I was done - maybe the sign that the need2slin is working?? I don't feel any leaner and haven't seen an increase in vascularity yet... maybe soon though...??
 
Todays weight: 89.1kg

Felt really tired again last night at about 9:30pm. I'm going to try taking an extra need2slin on workout days, 30mins before the end of my workout so that my body can utilise all the nutrients from my post workout shake. I tried this today and seemed pretty good.

Todays workout

Back:

Dead lift - 6x50kg, 6x60kg, 6x70kg, 6x80kg, 6x90kg, 6x100kg
Bent over barbell rows - 10x25kg, 2 sets of 10x30kg, 5 sets of 10x35kg, 2 sets of 10x 40kg
Close grip pull up - 6x10
Cable seated close row - 5x10 @ 45kg
Wide grip lat pulldown - 3 sets of 12x36kg, 2 sets of 12x41kg

Biceps:

Cable bicep curls - 1 set of 10x22.5kg, 6 sets of 10x27.5kg, 3 sets of 10x22.5kg
Unilateral cable bicep curls - 2 sets of 15x18kg, 15x20.5kg

Serratus:

One arm cable pulldown - 12x20.5kg, 12x22.5kg, 12x22.5kg
Barbell pull overs - 3 sets of 12x12.5kg

I felt like I had a great workout again today, still with a high level of focus. I don't have a problem getting through a workout and feel I could do more.
 
pahayden_14 said:
Todays weight: 89.1kg

I've been on need2slin for a week now and haven't been able to report the same benefits as other users. I'm keeping an open mind and hoping that I will get the benefits when I've been on it for longer. I have noticed that I am able to get through an intense workout with great focus, and that I have an increase in appetite (I will feel hungry after a meal when I've taken need2slin 30mins before). I have gained 2.1kg since starting need2slin even though my food intake is down and is my diet is clean. The last 2 nights I have been extremely tired about mid evening. I started to take HCGenerate today and am hoping that this will give a lift before I start PCT.
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That's pretty usual for starting the n2slin, mine is up about 4 lbs so far this week too although my diet has been clean as a whistle and slightly reduced cals/carbs from where i was before beginning it. It will dissapate though and then you'll start recognizing the changes! :)
 
Thanks sbt2082, I'm glad to hear that. I thought that maybe it wasn't working for me. I'll keep going and see what happens. Is there a recommended length of time to stay on need2slin?
 
Weight will fluctuate untill it stabilizes in your system. Which is different for everyone. Keep up the great work!
 
Todays weight: 88.7kg

I woke up today with a really full feel to my biceps, so it seems like need2slin is kicking in for me. I didn't feel as tired last night as I had the few nights before.

I did some isometric neck exercises and some ab work today, but other than that I will just take it easy for the rest of the day and will do nothing tomorrow.
 
Todays weight: 88.7kg

I've lost the feeling of fullness in my biceps that I had yesterday, so maybe it was because I had trained it the day before. I've not noticed any changes since starting up HCGenerate yet...

Day off today.
 
Todays weight 88.7kg

I took my last shot of HCG today and started PCT, so it's going to be interesting to see how need2slin and HCGenerate allows me to progress.

Todays workout

Chest:

Dumbbell flye - 2x12 @ 10kg
Smith bench press - 10x30kg, 8x40kg, 8x50kg, 8x55kg, 10x55kg, 9x45kg
Smith incline bench press - 10x30kg, 8x40kg, 8x45kg, 8x40kg, 14x30kg
Smith decline bench press - 20x20kg, 8x30kg, 8x40kg, 8x50kg, 8x40kg, 14x30kg
Cable crossover - 12x36kg, 3x12 @ 41kg

Triceps:

Close grip bench press - 14x20kg, 12x25kg, 10x30kg, 10x25kg
Standing triceps pressdown - 2x15 @ 41kg, 15x32kg
Unilateral cable tricep extension - 2x8 @ 13.5kg
Kneeling rope pulls - 16x32kg, 12x32kg
Bench dip - 2 sets to failure

Forearms:

Seated barbell wrist curl - 20x10kg, 10x30kg, 10x30kg, 25x10kg
Seated barbell reverse wrist curl - 20x10kg, 8x25kg, 8x25kg, 25x15kg
Reverse barbell curl - 20x15kg, 8x25kg, 5x25kg, 25x15kg

Biceps:

Hammer curl - 15x8kg, 8x14kg, 6x16kg, 25x8kg
Cable bicep curls - 6x10 @ 27.5kg, 3x10 @ 27.5kg, 10x32kg

I had an amazing workout today, I was really in the zone with total focus and perfect form. I'm happy that I can do such an intense workout that takes some time with no problems at all and end up leaving the gym feeling as if I could just keep going. I hit my chest from every angle and after finishing the chest portion of my workout it really felt done (although I was tempted and to give it another pasting after I had finished my whole workout, but thought I should just leave it). The thing that I was most impressed with was what happened to each muscle group of my arms because they were pumped like never before and every muscle was solid as a rock with some decent looking vascularity. Seeing such positive results leaves me more motivated to keep going and push even harder.

Now that I am taking an extra need2slin around 30 minutes before the end of my workout I decided to up the carbs in my post workout shake (all fast acting).
 
Todays weight 88.3kg

Had another awesome workout today, was really locked in and gave my leg workout everything I had.

Legs:

Breathing squats - 20x40kg, 20x45kg, 20x50kg, 20x50kg, 20x55kg, 20x55kg
Smith squats - 2x70kg, 2x80kg, 2x90kg
Half squats - 10x100kg, 13x100kg, 12x120kg, 8x140kg, 7x150kg, 13x160kg
Seated calf raise - 75x50kg each leg

Back:

Bent over barbell row - 10x30kg, 10x35kg, 3x10 @ 40kg
Wide grip pull up - 5 sets of 10
Close reverse grip lat pulldown - 12x36kg, 12x41kg, 3x12 @ 45.5kg
Cable seated close row - 5x10 @ 45kg

I've never had any issues with leg development, they were already pretty big before I started doing weights from cycling and since weight training they just get bigger and I am seeing some nice detail with my outer sweep and teardrop, I have seen more of a cut coming as well so hope to emphasise that to get a better look of separation in my quads. I've been doing a single heavy set with high reps for each calf after my upper leg workout and it really works for me because I now have a nice step detail to the main part of my calfs, looks totally sick and I hope it come up a bit more. I had a good feeling pump in my lats after my back workout and I do 2 back workouts a week at the moment because I want to bring my lats up and improve the slight flare I already have. I didn't do any deadlifts because I could already feel it in my lower back from all the squats I had done.

Overall so far I am happy with what need2slin has brought to my workouts and hope it continues and if possible gets better as I want to keep my training at this high level of intensity because I am really seeing the gains.
 
You are realllly killing the workouts!! Keep at it and you will be very very pleased with your results for sure!
 
Todays weight 88.3kg

I don't go to the gym today, so it's a well deserved rest day apart from some ab work at home. Feeling the DOMS a bit today, but not too bad and I've certainly felt worse...

Bring on tomorrow
 
im going to have to give this stuff a run.
 
It's certainly worth it mate. I had to try a couple of different ways of taking it to find what works best for me. It's good to know that your muscles are getting the maximum out of the nutrients you taking in through diet. If you need any advice then feel free to ask, and there are also plenty of other guys on here that are running it.
 
Todays weight 88.3kg

Everything is going according to plan, no real differences today apart from soreness in my quad teardrops when cycling to/from the gym after such a heavy leg day on Tuesday.

Delts:

Seated rotating dumbbell press superset with dumbbell upright row - 2x15 @10kg (this is just a warm up)
Bar military press - 8x25kg, 8x30kg, 8x35kg, 5x40kg, 5x40kg
Dumbbell lateral raise - 3x10 @ 8kg (I don't need to go heavy to get a full on burn from these)
Barbell front raise - 3x10 @ 10kg
Rear lateral raise - 10x8kg, 2x10 @ 10kg

Traps:

Barbell shrug - 20x 50kg, 20x 70kg, 17x 70kg
Upright barbell rows - 3x10 @ 30kg
Power cleans - 3x6 @ 30kg
Unilateral cable shrug - 25x68kg (slow rep speed), 50x68kg (fast rep speed), 50x68kg (fast rep speed), 20x68kg (slow rep speed)

I got some bridge and gear today that I ordered from needto. I won't use the bridge till after I've done my PCT, but am looking to start the gear tomorrow. I will start off by taking some pre/post workout and see how that works before taking extra doses. If anyone has experience on running gear I would appreciate your opinions.
 
sbt2082 said:
That's pretty usual for starting the n2slin, mine is up about 4 lbs so far this week too although my diet has been clean as a whistle and slightly reduced cals/carbs from where i was before beginning it. It will dissapate though and then you'll start recognizing the changes! :)
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Yes this is very common with all users. A weight jump of 3-7lb the first week. this is the muscles filling up with glycogen and carbs. 1 cap A.M before meail
1 cap pre work out best used 30 before meal. 1 cap before bed. Now if you weight is around 180 or above then you should use 2 caps am and 2 caps pre work out. You are a bigger person so will need a little more.
 
pahayden_14 said:
Todays weight 88.3kg

Had another awesome workout today, was really locked in and gave my leg workout everything I had.

Legs:

Breathing squats - 20x40kg, 20x45kg, 20x50kg, 20x50kg, 20x55kg, 20x55kg
Smith squats - 2x70kg, 2x80kg, 2x90kg
Half squats - 10x100kg, 13x100kg, 12x120kg, 8x140kg, 7x150kg, 13x160kg
Seated calf raise - 75x50kg each leg

Back:

Bent over barbell row - 10x30kg, 10x35kg, 3x10 @ 40kg
Wide grip pull up - 5 sets of 10
Close reverse grip lat pulldown - 12x36kg, 12x41kg, 3x12 @ 45.5kg
Cable seated close row - 5x10 @ 45kg

I've never had any issues with leg development, they were already pretty big before I started doing weights from cycling and since weight training they just get bigger and I am seeing some nice detail with my outer sweep and teardrop, I have seen more of a cut coming as well so hope to emphasise that to get a better look of separation in my quads. I've been doing a single heavy set with high reps for each calf after my upper leg workout and it really works for me because I now have a nice step detail to the main part of my calfs, looks totally sick and I hope it come up a bit more. I had a good feeling pump in my lats after my back workout and I do 2 back workouts a week at the moment because I want to bring my lats up and improve the slight flare I already have. I didn't do any deadlifts because I could already feel it in my lower back from all the squats I had done.

Overall so far I am happy with what need2slin has brought to my workouts and hope it continues and if possible gets better as I want to keep my training at this high level of intensity because I am really seeing the gains.
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Awesome
 
pahayden_14 said:
Todays weight 88.7kg

I took my last shot of HCG today and started PCT, so it's going to be interesting to see how need2slin and HCGenerate allows me to progress.

Todays workout

Chest:

Dumbbell flye - 2x12 @ 10kg
Smith bench press - 10x30kg, 8x40kg, 8x50kg, 8x55kg, 10x55kg, 9x45kg
Smith incline bench press - 10x30kg, 8x40kg, 8x45kg, 8x40kg, 14x30kg
Smith decline bench press - 20x20kg, 8x30kg, 8x40kg, 8x50kg, 8x40kg, 14x30kg
Cable crossover - 12x36kg, 3x12 @ 41kg

Triceps:

Close grip bench press - 14x20kg, 12x25kg, 10x30kg, 10x25kg
Standing triceps pressdown - 2x15 @ 41kg, 15x32kg
Unilateral cable tricep extension - 2x8 @ 13.5kg
Kneeling rope pulls - 16x32kg, 12x32kg
Bench dip - 2 sets to failure

Forearms:

Seated barbell wrist curl - 20x10kg, 10x30kg, 10x30kg, 25x10kg
Seated barbell reverse wrist curl - 20x10kg, 8x25kg, 8x25kg, 25x15kg
Reverse barbell curl - 20x15kg, 8x25kg, 5x25kg, 25x15kg

Biceps:

Hammer curl - 15x8kg, 8x14kg, 6x16kg, 25x8kg
Cable bicep curls - 6x10 @ 27.5kg, 3x10 @ 27.5kg, 10x32kg

I had an amazing workout today, I was really in the zone with total focus and perfect form. I'm happy that I can do such an intense workout that takes some time with no problems at all and end up leaving the gym feeling as if I could just keep going. I hit my chest from every angle and after finishing the chest portion of my workout it really felt done (although I was tempted and to give it another pasting after I had finished my whole workout, but thought I should just leave it). The thing that I was most impressed with was what happened to each muscle group of my arms because they were pumped like never before and every muscle was solid as a rock with some decent looking vascularity. Seeing such positive results leaves me more motivated to keep going and push even harder.

Now that I am taking an extra need2slin around 30 minutes before the end of my workout I decided to up the carbs in my post workout shake (all fast acting).
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o ok so you are pct and these products are doing what they need to be doing. Making sure you recover and do not lose any gains. :heart::heart:
 
pahayden_14 said:
Todays weight 88.3kg

Everything is going according to plan, no real differences today apart from soreness in my quad teardrops when cycling to/from the gym after such a heavy leg day on Tuesday.

Delts:

Seated rotating dumbbell press superset with dumbbell upright row - 2x15 @10kg (this is just a warm up)
Bar military press - 8x25kg, 8x30kg, 8x35kg, 5x40kg, 5x40kg
Dumbbell lateral raise - 3x10 @ 8kg (I don't need to go heavy to get a full on burn from these)
Barbell front raise - 3x10 @ 10kg
Rear lateral raise - 10x8kg, 2x10 @ 10kg

Traps:

Barbell shrug - 20x 50kg, 20x 70kg, 17x 70kg
Upright barbell rows - 3x10 @ 30kg
Power cleans - 3x6 @ 30kg
Unilateral cable shrug - 25x68kg (slow rep speed), 50x68kg (fast rep speed), 50x68kg (fast rep speed), 20x68kg (slow rep speed)

I got some bridge and gear today that I ordered from needto. I won't use the bridge till after I've done my PCT, but am looking to start the gear tomorrow. I will start off by taking some pre/post workout and see how that works before taking extra doses. If anyone has experience on running gear I would appreciate your opinions.
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take the gear 3-4 caps with every does of need2slin you take bro every day. Now you have dual factor nutrition covered. cabrs and protein uptake. This will make sure you lose non of you gains, added with the chemical side of pct this is the best pct you can get.
 
Thanks for the advice needto. I'm taking slin 30 mins before breakfast/end of my workout/lunch/dinner/before bed. I added 4 gear before workout with shake/after workout with shake and will have another dose with afternoon snack. I'm wondering if I should drop the slin I take before bed because I don't take any carbs before bed, just a casein shake so I'm not sure it the slin is going to be doing much for me. What do you think needto?
 
Todays weight 88.3kg

I started taking Gear today, so will report how things go as/when I notice any changes.

Back:

Romanian deadlift - 3x10 @ 45kg
Bent over barbell rows - 10x10 @ 35kg (I repped these out slower than normal holding for a count at peak contraction)
Cable seated close row - 5x10 @ 45kg
Wide grip lat pulldown - 5x12 @ 45.5kg
Close grip pull up - 5x10

Serratus:

One arm cable pulldown - 3x12 @ 20.5kg
Barbell pull overs - 3x12 @ 12.5kg

Forearms:

Seated barbell wrist curl - 20x15kg, 12x35kg, 10x35kg, 30x15kg
Seated barbell reverse wrist curl - 20x15kg, 5x25kg, 6x25kg, 30x15kg
Reverse barbell curl - 20x15kg, 5x25kg, 5x25kg, 22x15kg

Biceps:

Hammer curl - 20x8kg, 5x16kg, 6x16kg, 25x8kg
Barbell biceps curl - 3x10 @ 25kg, 7x10 @ 20kg

Another good workout today, had a nice pump in all the muscle groups I was working. My weight is staying steady and I think there is a bit of leaning out going on, but it's fairly slow. My diet is spot on at the moment and I will try and figure out the amount of kcals I'm taking in sometime over the weekend.
 
Todays weight 88.3kg

Did some isometric neck exercises and ab work today, but other than that I won't be working out any more today as I take the weekend off. I've been taking Gear and so far all seems ok, my legs are totally fine after a heavy workout earlier in the week, but I'm not sure if the Gear had anything to do with that or it was just that they needed time.

I had an Oh Yeah! protein bar today, they taste really good. Shame they are expensive. I'll probably try some of the need2 protein bars either when I make my next order or when a UK distribution thing is set up.
 
Todays weight 88.3kg

A rest day today, so just relaxing and looking forward to getting back in to the gym tomorrow and hitting it hard. Feeling good and am happy with the progress so far.
 
Todays weight 88.3kg

Was happy to hear that people are liking my log. I found that the hunger issue with need2slin only lasted the first week...

My workout today was brutal. I really focused on the negative section of the lifts, using a very controlled and slow descent of the weight, and it turned out to be hard work...

Chest:

Dumbbell flye - 2x12 @ 10kg (this is just a warm up to get the blood in to my chest)
Cable crossover - 12x36kg, 12x41kg (I would usually do this towards the end of my chest workout, but I was having to wait to get on the smith machine and wanted to keep blood in my chest muscles)
Smith bench press - 10x30kg, 8x40kg, 8x50kg, 8x50kg, 8x50kg, 8x40kg
Smith incline bench press - 8x30kg, 8x40kg, 8x40kg, 8x30kg, 8x30kg
Smith decline bench press - 10x30kg, 8x40kg, 8x50kg, 8x40kg, 8x40kg
Machine chest press - 8x54.5kg, 8x63.5kg, 8x72.5kg, 8x63.5kg (I did negatives on the last 3 sets when I had reached failure)

Triceps:

Bench dip - 20, 13, 12 reps
Cable triceps overhead extension - 3x14 @ 22.5kg
Standing triceps pressdown - 3x15 @ 36kg
Unilateral cable pressdown - 11x18kg, 7x20.5kg (I did negatives after I had reached failure on both sets)

Forearms:

Seated barbell wrist curl - 20x15kg, 8x40kg, 8x40kg, 30x15kg
Seated barbell reverse wrist curl - 20x15kg, 12x25kg, 10x25kg, 30x15kg
Standing reverse barbell curl - 20x15kg, 5x25kg, 5x25kg, 27x15kg

Biceps:

Hammer curl - 20x8kg, 7x16kg, 8x16kg, 25x8kg
Cable biceps curl 21s - 5 sets @ 16kg
Unilateral cable bicep curls - 12x16kg, 8x18kg, 5x20.5kg (I did negatives after I had reached failure on each set)

I was totally wrecked after the workout. Concentrating on the negative phase of the lifts is taxing, but then doing negatives for the last exercise on all but my forearms was like torture. My biceps in particular had a pump like I've never felt before, I thought they were going to explode and they were absolutely massive with all the blood in them. It remains to be seen how much I'm feeling it tomorrow, but I have faith in the need2slin and now the gear that they will treat me good. Anyway, the feeling of DOMS the next day gives a sense of achievement and a knowing that you gave it all you had... Legs tomorrow, so that will be interesting... KTS.
 
Todays weight 88.7kg

Well, so far so good with the aftermath of yesterdays workout. I feel slightly sore in places, but pretty much mild and nothing that stopped me from going full throttle with todays workout.

Legs:

Machine leg extension - 2x12 @ 54.5kg (this was just to pre-exhaust my legs)
One and a half squats - 6x30kg, 6x40kg, 6x45kg, 6x50kg, 6x55kg, 6x40kg
Machine leg press - 14x100kg, 13x100kg (this was 2 sets for each leg and when I hit failure I did negatives)
Seated leg curl - 14x27.5kg, 10x27.5kg (this was 2 sets for each leg and when I hit failure I did negatives)
Machine leg extension - 14x27.5kg, 12x27.5kg (this was 2 sets for each leg and when I hit failure I did negatives)
Machine calf raise - 75x54.5kg, 50x54.5kg (this was 2 sets for each leg and when I was done I couldn't feel my calves for a few seconds... then the pain started)

Back:

T-bar bent over row - 10x25kg, 5x10 @ 50kg
Wide grip pull ups - 5x10 reps
Vertical row machine - 5x12 @ 45.5kg
Close/reverse grip lat pulldown - 5x12 @ 45.5kg
Unilateral dumbbell bent over row - 14x20kg, 12x20kg (this was 2 sets for each side and when I hit failure I did negatives)

I really concentrated on the negative phases of all lifts again today, making sure that I was fighting it all the way with total control and excellent form. Adding the negatives was a real killer and I was feeling totally drained after my leg workout and was close to being sick... it wasn't going to stop me though... after a few minutes rest and some water I was good to go and started my back workout (a sweet lat flare will be mine). The 3 mile ride home was not cool, my legs were not co-operating but I just took it easy at a steady pace and was glad to get back so I could collapse... The pain of the days workout was substituted with a pain in my wallet after I purchased 10 bottles of gear and 10 bottles of need2slin, and a packet of the better protein bars (even with the discount code it was a big wad of cash... but well worth it).
 
Todays weight 88.7kg

Not feeling any DOMS today after my leg workout yesterday, so the slin and gear are doing their stuff. My muscles feel full, vascularity improves each week and my body composition is continuing to change also.

I'm not at the gym today, but have done some ab work. The remainder of the day will be dedicated to resting my muscles so that they are ready for the next session.
 
Todays weight 88.7kg

Everything going really well. The need2slin and gear is great, just as I had hoped. Another good workout today.

Delts:

Seated rotating dumbbell press - 2x15 @ 10kg superset with
Dumbbell upright row - 2x15 @ 10kg
Static lateral raise - 3x10 @ 4kg
W presses - 3 sets @ 8kg
Barbell mini presses behind neck - 10x10kg, 2x10 @ 12.5kg
Unilateral leaning cable contractions - 7x9kg, 6x11.5kg, 5x11.5kg
Dumbbell shoulder press - 14x8kg, 10x10kg (I did negatives on these after I reached failure)

Traps:

Dumbbell shrugs - 4x18 @ 34kg
Upright barbell rows - 10x30kg, 10x35kg, 10x35kg, 10x25kg
Clean and jerk - 6x30kg, 6x35kg, 6x40kg
Seated rows with elbows high - 12x45kg, 5x12 @ 55kg
Unilateral smith shrug - 24x40kg (then negatives)
Unilateral cable shrug - 2x24 @ 68kg (then negatives)

I was concentrating on the negative phase of each exercise, making sure it was slow and controlled.
 
Todays weight 88.7kg

Had another good workout today (although it was interrupted by a fire alarm). It was the last day of focusing on the negative part of the lifts and I am happy with how my muscles have responded to this type of training.

Back:

Bent over barbell rows - 2x10 @ 35kg, 8x10 @ 40kg
Deadlift - 6x50kg, 6x80kg, 6x100kg
Close grip pull up - 6 sets of 10
Vertical row machine - 3x12 @ 63.5kg
Wide grip lat pulldown - 3x12 @ 50kg
Unilateral dumbbell bent over row - 20x26kg (for each side, then did negatives when I reached failure)

Serratus:

One arm cable pulldown - 2x12 @ 27.5kg (did negatives when I reached failure on the second set for each side)
Barbell pull overs - 12x15kg, 12x17.5kg

Biceps:

Hammer curl - 20x8kg, 4x20kg, 4x20kg, 30x8kg
Bicep barbell 21s - 3 sets @ 17.5kg
Unilateral cable bicep curls - 13x16kg, 12x18kg (did negatives when reached failure for both sets each side)

I am taking next week off. I'll be away over the weekend and for the first part of next week and then I have my parents coming for a visit at the end of the week. I was thinking that I would try and fit a few workouts when I could, but instead I decided I would probably do better just having a week off so that my muscles can fully recover and rest and then hit the gym again and hopefully make more gains. I will carry on taking the slin and gear during my week off and will eat clean. Will update my log as and when I can.
 
I made it through my week off. I have to say a massive thanks to the NTBM team because their products kick serious ass, and the Slin and Gear gave me total peace of mind in that I knew my body and muscles were getting the most out of all the nutrients. Gear is a gift from the gods because I was able to use it with low protein meals while I was away and I knew my muscles were getting the protein they needed.

So... everything is cool, my body comp is still improving with the slin and taking a week off hasn't set me back at all and I am fully recovered after the week of negatives I was doing before I had the week off. I had no loss of strength when I got back to the gym today and the focus and intensity returned as if I hadn't been away. It's a good feeling to shock the muscles after a weeks down time, looking forward to some nice new gains because of it.

I hit my chest, triceps and biceps today. Made sure I got all the angles covered and ended with a wicked pump in my biceps.

It's good to be back.
 
I worked legs and back today, hit it hard and intense. Felt sick after I had finished and was totally drained. My muscles are feeling good and my strength continues to increase. It's almost like I can feel my muscles getting bigger.
 
Had a rest day yesterday, but was back in the gym hitting it hard again. Have some soreness in muscles worked earlier in the week, but apart from that everything is cool. The Slin and Gear are excellent, doing the job perfectly and I got the 10 bottles more of each I ordered through yesterday, so am stocked up for a while.

Worked my delts and traps today, had a full on burn in my delts like usual.

Does anyone know if need2slin becomes less effective when it has been taken for a while? Or if it should be cycled at all?
 
Muscle soreness has all gone today. I kept a high intensity during my workout today, only having a 30 second rest between sets. I worked on my back, serratus, forearms and biceps.

I had been doing 2 sessions a week for forearms because I wanted to bring them up. I'm happy with they way they look now, some nice definition and good size, so I have now dropped to only 1 session a week for forearms. I'm still going to carry on with 2 sessions for back because I am working to bring up my lat spread, so it will take a while longer to get the desired results. So far I have noticed a good change in size so it is giving me the incentive to keep up the pace.

I switched to doing bicep 21s a few weeks back, and it is working well, but I will switch back to bicep curls for a few weeks just to keep things fresh.

Have a couple of rest days over the weekend, so will enjoy the sunshine and get ready to hit it hard again next week.
 
pahayden_14 said:
Muscle soreness has all gone today. I kept a high intensity during my workout today, only having a 30 second rest between sets. I worked on my back, serratus, forearms and biceps.

I had been doing 2 sessions a week for forearms because I wanted to bring them up. I'm happy with they way they look now, some nice definition and good size, so I have now dropped to only 1 session a week for forearms. I'm still going to carry on with 2 sessions for back because I am working to bring up my lat spread, so it will take a while longer to get the desired results. So far I have noticed a good change in size so it is giving me the incentive to keep up the pace.

I switched to doing bicep 21s a few weeks back, and it is working well, but I will switch back to bicep curls for a few weeks just to keep things fresh.

Have a couple of rest days over the weekend, so will enjoy the sunshine and get ready to hit it hard again next week.
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good to see you are learning more about your self bro. Having a log now you can keep it all on record to and look back on it months or even years from now.
 
Yesterday was my last day of PCT, so am glad that is behind me now. Everything feels fine after being off for a while, actually feeling better than I have ever done after completing a cycle. I'm hoping to continue to see gains while only taking need2slin and gear.

Had a good workout today. Worked chest first, followed by triceps and then biceps. I always get a really good pump in my biceps now. I decided not to get to caught up in counting reps, so now I just listen to what my body is telling me, if I can do more then I up the weight. Should improve the muscle/mind connection.
 
Had the most intense workout ever today, was totally wrecked afterwards. There were a couple of points during the workout where I felt I was either going to pass out or be sick. Pretty cool, gotta love leg day... I also did some work on my back, found that doing supersets of wide grip lat pulldowns and close reverse grip lat pulldowns really effective.

Don't feel like doing anything else today, just need to relax for a bit. Good job tomorrow is a rest day.
 
pahayden_14 said:
Had the most intense workout ever today, was totally wrecked afterwards. There were a couple of points during the workout where I felt I was either going to pass out or be sick. Pretty cool, gotta love leg day... I also did some work on my back, found that doing supersets of wide grip lat pulldowns and close reverse grip lat pulldowns really effective.

Don't feel like doing anything else today, just need to relax for a bit. Good job tomorrow is a rest day.
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Nice bro luv the feedback!
 
Now that I've gone through PCT I have started to take Bridge. Hoping it's as good as the rest of the NTBM supplements. I've not lost any mass strength since ending my cycle and am hoping that by taking Need2Slin, Gear and Bridge I will be able to continue to make gains until I go back on cycle.

Worked on my delts and traps today, and started to do more unilateral training to isolate the muscles and improve the mind/muscle connection and improve any gains.
 
Last gym day of the week and hurt my lower back doing partial dead lifts. I was able to finish the rest of my workout, making sure I kept perfect form to not do any more damage to my lower back. I worked lats, serratus, forearms and biceps. I've hurt my back in the past and usually after a couple of days rest I'm good to go again. Keeping fingers crossed...
 
I took an extra day of rest to allow my lower back to heal, so I only got back in to the gym today. My back is feeling good and the only soreness I get is when cycling to/from the gym. I will give dead lifts a miss this week to make sure it gets totally healed.

Worked my chest, triceps and biceps today. I'll be dropping the weight slightly this week and upping the reps, just to keep my muscles guessing. Todays workout felt really good, and got a great pump in all the muscles I worked.
 
Hi guys. This is an awesome thread and I def gotta try need to slin but little low on cash and gotta wait till next month..I have a bottle of Anabolic Pump and a Pslin from a while back that I never used..would it be worth starting one of these until I get the Needtoslin..thank you
 
If you haven't got the funds for need2slin now and have some other stuff lying around you should just use it up, probably not as good as the need2slin, but will be better than not taking anything. I've tried all sorts of different supplements, and have to say that the products NTBM put out are just amazing, they only use top quality ingredients and the price is good. Can't wait for the UK distribution to be sorted because I got hammered with import duty on my last order...

Anyway, my back was feeling even better today, not quite 100% but getting there. I slaughtered my lats today, and it felt good. Then I moved on to serratus and forearms.

If anyone reading this has experience with the NTBM product Gear, I would appreciate any opinions about if it would be better to take 3-4 caps 3 times a day or 2 caps with each meal?
 
I've been taking Bridge for a week now and am not sure if it's working or what it is supposed to feel like. Anyone have any ideas??

Another good session in the gym. Did quite a lot of work on my delts, hitting all three heads and then moved on to my traps.

The rebound after ending my cycle seems to have gone now, was loving the feeling of my own test production ramping me up. It's the best I've experienced so far and I think it has a lot to do with HCGenerate which totally rocks and will be a staple of any future PCT for me. I also took extra Tribulus which I'm still taking.
 
Had a bit of a monster session in the gym today, but it was cool and was able to KTS with the intensity that I wanted. Started off by working quads, then went on to hams and calves. Did a bit of work on my lats (am going to have to keep a close eye on this because I think one side is developing better than the other), did a bit on my chest and finished off with my biceps.

I've decided that changing leg day to Friday instead of Tuesday is a good move, as it gives me the weekend for my legs to recover.

Also started to get some ideas about my next cycle (which won't start for a couple of months yet).
 
Hey Payhayden, nice log man. Good luck. I am looking into using the NeedtoSlin, but have been going back and forth between this and Slin Sane. Have you used Slin Sane and if so how would you compare it. Thanks.
 
Sorry fireflynutr, can't really help with that one because I've never tried Slin Sane. All I can say is how pleased I have been with Need2Slin. I've continued to make good gains while taking it even when I've been off cycle.
 
Monday morning means back to the gym. I'm doing lower reps with heavy weight this week... Got to keep the muscles guessing. I worked chest, triceps and biceps today and the workout was good, but I wasn't able to get a pump in my biceps.
 
Having a rest day. So far, the only things I've noticed since starting need2slin is that I feel hot a lot of the time and that I feel hungrier than usual.

Looking forward to getting back in to the gym tomorrow and hitting it hard.
 
Dude, that made me laugh. I went through exactly the same when I first started Need2Slin. After a couple of weeks it settles down and now I have no side effects at all. How many do you take a day and how long before you eat do you take them? Come back and let us know how you are getting on.
 
Another productive session in the gym. Worked back, serratus and forearms today. I decided to do bent over rows unilaterally today to make sure that each side was working to the max, don't want to look bigger on one side than the other... My left wrist was playing up today, making it hard to lift heavy without pain.
 
Was back in the gym this morning after a day off yesterday. Worked delts, traps and biceps today, all went really well.

I'm fully back to normal after my last cycle now, my PCT was the best I've ever done and I think the real difference was HCGenerate which is an amazing product. I've not lost any of my gains and by using Bridge between cycles I hope to continue making gains. Was thinking about trying out a blast/cruise cycle next time, and with my diet being spot on I hope the gains will be even better. If anyone wants to give me advice about doing a blast/cruise cycle I would appreciate it, am looking in to which aas will work best together for each phase so any suggestions would be great.
 
Had an intense session in the gym today and I'm now totally spent. Worked legs, back and chest today. I wouldn't usually work 3 major muscle, but I'm doing a bit extra for my chest and back to bring them on.

I'm glad it's the weekend, a couple of days rest will do some good and give me time to plan my next cycle (thanks to needto for the advice).
 
Had a great workout today. I've changed my training to a light weight/high rep routine and it gave me the most awesome pumps, I felt like my muscles were going to explode. I worked my chest, triceps and biceps today... probably going to feel it tomorrow...

I just want to say a massive thanks to need2 who has given me some excellent advice on the new cycle I'm designing. He's the man, and really knows his stuff.
 
Another great workout today, these high rep sets really give me an insane pump. I worked back, serratus and forearms today.

Rest day tomorrow.
 
Another really intense workout today. These high rep sets are really pushing me to the limit. I worked delts, traps, biceps and abs today... Left everything in the gym... Job done. Bring on leg day!
 
Man, am I glad it's the weekend. Two days rest are just what I need after high rep week. I worked, quads, hams, calfs, back and chest today. Feeling really good apart from being knackered.

I've scaled back to 3 caps of need2slin a day now, taking out the one after a workout and the one before bed. I have a casein shake before bed so don't think there was a need for a cap then.
 
Nice log man! I am keeping one of N2Slin on a couple other forums thanks to the generous N2 (hope all goes well with him). Absolutely love the stuff, especially for my EOD carb refeeds. I used to be pretty sensitive to carbs but they do not seem to effect me as much, actually with the N2Slin helps me look more full and vascular while on a maintence/cut phase.
 
This is an awesome log your keeping bro I can't wait to start my run of it gear and slin too! How long do you plan to run it since you have a 10 bottle collection?
 
I was planning to keep running them while I'm still happy with the gains I'm making. The interesting thing will be to see what the gains will be like when I start my next aas cycle in a little over a week. I wasn't planning on going back on cycle again so soon, but thanks to an amazing PCT I got all my levels back really quickly and I think HCGenerate was a big part of that, it's an amazing product.
 
The weekend seemed to go by way too quickly, but it was good. Was back in the gym this morning and am doing sets in the 10 rep range, so have gone back to pretty heavy weights. I worked chest, triceps and biceps, and it was a good workout.

This is the last week I will be off cycle so will also be the last week of using Bridge, which is an amazing product and lives up to everything the product description says. I was able to keep all of my gains from my last cycle and was able to keep making new gains. It will be a mainstay of my supplementation routine when off cycle from now on.
 
Had a good workout today, worked back, serratus, and forearms. Wasn't as hardcore as other days as I do two minor muscle groups, but I got done what I needed to.

Counting the days down now till I start my next cycle, looking forward to it.
 
Another great workout today, totally fried my delts hitting each head in a number of different ways. Then I moved on to traps and biceps and finished off with some ab work.
 
The last workout of the week, and it was a good one. I did quite a bit of work on my legs and then did a few sets for chest and back. It was the last workout before I start my new cycle, so am hoping to see size and strength increase when it starts to kick in.
 
pahayden_14 said:
The weekend seemed to go by way too quickly, but it was good. Was back in the gym this morning and am doing sets in the 10 rep range, so have gone back to pretty heavy weights. I worked chest, triceps and biceps, and it was a good workout.

This is the last week I will be off cycle so will also be the last week of using Bridge, which is an amazing product and lives up to everything the product description says. I was able to keep all of my gains from my last cycle and was able to keep making new gains. It will be a mainstay of my supplementation routine when off cycle from now on.
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I feel you bro. damn has time been flying by so damn fast.
 
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