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Scotsman

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Did deads today and got 495 x3 conventional pull with only a belt and chalk.

Things are looking good for my quest for 700 by the end of March. I'm only four weeks back into training after my holiday break.

Cheers,
Scotsman
 
Nice lift bro.

Hey I recently stalled at 450 and I was looking to switch some things up. I was gonna start pulling from a box maybe 4 or 5 inches off the ground. What do you think of that?
 
skullcrushin22 said:
Nice lift bro.

Hey I recently stalled at 450 and I was looking to switch some things up. I was gonna start pulling from a box maybe 4 or 5 inches off the ground. What do you think of that?


What kind of sets and reps are you doing now?
Where are you stalling at?
How long have you been doing this program?

Cheers,
Scotsman
 
Ive been doing this four week cycle of Week 1 5*5 1*3, Week 2 8*3, Week 3 5*5 1*3, Week 4 1*5 2*3 5*1 I did that four eight weeks then deloaded and came back I would say at the bottom I am stalling.
 
skullcrushin22 said:
Ive been doing this four week cycle of Week 1 5*5 1*3, Week 2 8*3, Week 3 5*5 1*3, Week 4 1*5 2*3 5*1 I did that four eight weeks then deloaded and came back I would say at the bottom I am stalling.

Not sure I am understanding your workout here. So to clarify:

Week 1 you did 5x5 and then one set of 3
Week 2 8 sets of 3 reps
Week 3 same as 1
Week 4 1 set of 5, two sets of 3, and five sets of 1

If I have that right you were doing way too much volume to increase weight significantly on deads. The only way to lift heavier on deadlift is to lift more weight and you can't do that doing that many reps in a workout. I prefer the 3x5 then 3x3 then 2x2 and finally max effort. Also I don't believe in deloading, when you finish your heavy cycle just take a week off then come back into the light phase.

Do you mean you on a box or the weight on a box? If you're stalling at the bottom then moving the weight up will not help you. I'm not a huge fan of getting up on a box to pull because it puts you out of your normal position.

Could be several factors, anywhere from core strength to flexibility. If you are having problems right away it also could be that you are popping your hips in the initial movement.

Cheers,
Scotsman
 
Scotsman said:
Not sure I am understanding your workout here. So to clarify:

Week 1 you did 5x5 and then one set of 3
Week 2 8 sets of 3 reps
Week 3 same as 1
Week 4 1 set of 5, two sets of 3, and five sets of 1

If I have that right you were doing way too much volume to increase weight significantly on deads. The only way to lift heavier on deadlift is to lift more weight and you can't do that doing that many reps in a workout. I prefer the 3x5 then 3x3 then 2x2 and finally max effort. Also I don't believe in deloading, when you finish your heavy cycle just take a week off then come back into the light phase.

Do you mean you on a box or the weight on a box? If you're stalling at the bottom then moving the weight up will not help you. I'm not a huge fan of getting up on a box to pull because it puts you out of your normal position.

Could be several factors, anywhere from core strength to flexibility. If you are having problems right away it also could be that you are popping your hips in the initial movement.

Cheers,
Scotsman

Yeh thats how I did it. When you say 3*5 then 3*3 then 2*2 then max effort I assume thats each week so 3*5 first week then 3*3 next week etc. I did mean standing on a box but if thats not going to help and isnt safe then I wont do it. Would putting the weight on a box help that would be like rack deads?
 
skullcrushin22 said:
Yeh thats how I did it. When you say 3*5 then 3*3 then 2*2 then max effort I assume thats each week so 3*5 first week then 3*3 next week etc. I did mean standing on a box but if thats not going to help and isnt safe then I wont do it. Would putting the weight on a box help that would be like rack deads?


Close but I usually go 2-3 weeks at each phase. 3x5 is the light then 3x3 is medium then the 2x2 and ME are the heavy phase.

I'd go:
3x5 3 weeks
3x3 3 weeks
2x2 2-3 weeks
ME 3 weeks. This way it ends up being a 12 week ramp up.
You should add weight each week and your last rep of your last set should be very hard. I also add weight each set, so start your 3x5's at a little lower weight so you don't outpace yourself.

Pulling from a higher position like rack pulls will help the middle zone and lockout but not with the initial pull.

Have you ever tried speed pulls?

Do 80% of your max weight for six singles. Do each rep with the best possible form and as fast as possible. Wait one minute in between each rep.

So a workout would look like this:

Warmup
1 rep
1 minute break
1 rep
1 minute break
1 rep 1 minute break
etc... for six reps.

Then that's it no more pulling that night. So lets say you max is about 400 do your speed pulls with 315-320 for the first try. This is going to make your central nervous system it's bitch so I only suggest doing them once a month tops. This helps get the muscle firing fast and accurate which should help greatly with your deads.

Cheers,
Scotsman
 
nice work, what were you pulling before your layoff? and are you talking suited or raw?
 
DaveTSI said:
nice work, what were you pulling before your layoff? and are you talking suited or raw?

Pulled 500 for one before the layoff. Nothing but a belt and chalk.

Cheers,
Scotsman
 
and your goal is 700 in two months?!?!? id hate to be pessimistic.... but you may not reach that goal bro lol
 
DaveTSI said:
and your goal is 700 in two months?!?!? id hate to be pessimistic.... but you may not reach that goal bro lol


I'm not a reps kind of guy when I hit 550 a couple of years ago I could still only do 500 for one. I'm going to try up around 600 in a couple weeks which I don't think should be too hard.

Cheers,
Scotsman
 
Scotsman, when you are ramping weight between sets, are the weights in a range of 10-15% of the next set? For example, 255x5,290x5,325x5, or do you keep the weights a little closer together.
 
beerdrinker said:
Scotsman, when you are ramping weight between sets, are the weights in a range of 10-15% of the next set? For example, 255x5,290x5,325x5, or do you keep the weights a little closer together.

My last 3x3 went 315, 405, 495.

I'd go with a much lower jump on the 3x5, more like what you are suggesting.

Cheers,
Scotsman
 
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