Ozzies First Cycle

[JUICEDOWNUNDER]

Hi All

This board is amazing it has a great deal of quality info! Based on my research and info from this board, I have come up with the below! Let me know if this good or just crap!

STATS:
5' 11- big boned and broad shoulders
85kg (187lbs)
15%-19% BF
AGE# 23
GOALS# 1. Lose BF 2. Gain solid Hard Muscle (not puffy)

Been training on and off for the past 3years but seriously for the past 6months!
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CYCLE/STACK:

WEEK 1-6 Sustanon 250 @ 500mg per week (first week @ 750m

WEEK 1-10 Deca @ 400mg per week

WEEK 5-10 Stanazol @ 50mg EOD

CLENBUTEROL - POST (no clomid down under)
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DIET:

5am - Cardio
protein shake
porridge/banana

8:30am- Fruit Salad

10:30am- 1/2 cup rice/fat free noodles with tuna or chicken

12:30pm- chick/tuna with cup of rice/noodles with veges

3:00pm- Protein shake

5:30pm- Weights

6:45pm- Protein shake

7:00pm- steak/chick veges & potato
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The first part of my cycle is for bulking, should i cut out cardio all together? + while bulking do i need to eat a hell of a lot more?

Sorry about the long post!!!

and feedback welcomed or tips of the trade

cheers

 

[MUSTANG_18]

Run the Sust for 8 weeks minimum and GET CLOMID!!! It is a must post cycle if you hope to keep the majority of your gains

M18

 

[genarr3]

Bro you can buy Clomid on the web.
Genarr3

 

[BigPsyco]

Cut out intense cardio, run the sus fo 10 weeks, do a search on frontloading and eat more

 

[JUICEDOWNUNDER]

thanks for the info guys!

I will take the sust for 8 weeks then!

Increase calories to around 4500-5000?

cheers

 

[muscle_downunder]

Welcome bro, good to see another aussie. Man clomid is readily available here, just look harder, and if your lucky like me you got a doc that will prescribe it for you.

 

[JUICEDOWNUNDER]

Hi muscle downunder! i have had trouble getting stuff as it is peak competition time where i live QLD! there are two comps and then the National's on................... i have got a doc who is going to do my blood tests and general check ups! i will check with him regarding clomid!

 

[muscle_downunder]

Also ask him for HCG, and if he is nice enough hit him up for sus!

 

[JUICEDOWNUNDER]

sure, what are DR's for!

I have done a fair it of research on this and hope that it all pays of! this board is great, has just about all you need to know

 

[blown93302]

i dont think you should frontload the sust... the prop in it should be fast acting enough. as for the cycle, i would go sust 500 for 10 weeks, deca 400 for 10 weeks, and winny 50ed weeks 5-10. clomid for post cycle

 

[Jguns]

You are not eating after 7 PM. you should have at least a solid protein source before bed. Try a meat based protein source because your body will metabolize it slower overnight.
Also, Sust does not need to be frontloaded as someone said. You might try frontloading the Deca though.

 

[JUICEDOWNUNDER]

ok,

so updates to cycle stack:

Sustanon @500 for 10w - no front loading

Up the deca in the first week

Stanazol as you guys seem to favor ED hits can i do one day inject and the next drink it???

 

[manny78]

Bro what about the clomids ? never heard about Deca dick ?

 

[JUICEDOWNUNDER]

hi manny 78- Im working on the clomid!!! got a bit of time up my sleve but i guess its better to source it now, + what exactly is milk thistle? is it a must have?

 

[genarr3]

Milk thistle is a liver protector. Is it a must have? I honestly couldn't tell you, I take it just to ease my mind. ALA is also another good one. I would take it if I was doing 17aa gear, ie winny, d-Bol, etc. There was a very long post on front loading by the deep thinkers on this board and they specifically didn't recomend front loading sust. Find it. Do a search.
Genarr3

 

[Dantes]

Like the other guys said; get Clomid! I'd get yourself naturally down to 8-9% with Diet, Cardio, and ECA. Then hit the juice, eat like a bull, and lift like a madman. You'll probally appreciate the roids a lot more gaining size from 9% than you would with starting to gain from 15%. But I wouldn't except you to wait that long. My goal is to cut for a few more weeks, but my stuff will be arriving this week so I'm going to say fuck it.

Dantes

 

[JUICEDOWNUNDER]

cool, well to be honest i was one of those fat boys (28%) and now down to around 15%, through good health eating and heaps of cardio and weights! now that im looking and feeling a lot better, its time to complete the package!

 

[JUICEDOWNUNDER]

Dantes- yeah the best way would be to wait untill im at 10% but i have got itchy feet and it doesn't help when my mates are getting ready for there BB comps and are at 25mls BF! but i have thought about it and hopefully have all in place and all will go well!

cheers

 

[youngdeltman]

Cool, another Queenslander on the board. I'll be checking out the IFBB states next weekend...hopefully

my advice: Run the sust for longer
Deca at 400mg 10weeks is too much, drop it a little, you'd be surprised how effective deca can be at small doses
You can get clomid down here, I've used it before.

Where you training at?

 

[JUICEDOWNUNDER]

youngdeltman-- yeah im working on the clomid, all my sources for Juice just said no!, but i have been looking on some internet pharmacies and it could be a goa...........

yeah some of my mates are competing so i will go along for support and also i find it makes me even more determined to hit the gym and put in the effort!!!