Overlook upcoming cycle please!

[Tux]

Actually not exactly true Azul. DNP is what's known as an oxidative uncoupler. Basically it prevents your cells from going through the krebs cycle, so they can't utilize carbohydrates to make ATP anymore. So the body responds by going into ketosis basically, it produces ketone-bodies which convert fats into an intermediary that can still produce ATP. So your body gets almost all of it's daily caloric needs from stored fat instead of carbs, and since it can't use the carbs, it dumps them off as heat. This is why you get so much hotter on DNP if you eat more carbs. DNP doesn't make your body use muscle or fat indiscriminantly. However, since your body can't use carbs at this point, and you're losing weight quite rapidly, your body will usually tend to sacrifice some muscle as well as fat, even though fat is by far the preferred source of energy, protein is the last thing your body uses for energy. After a cycle though, you're already going catabolic, and trying to cut carbs and run DNP is just not a good idea. I agree on that point, DNP post-cycle not good... do it well after you've recovered, or while still on cycle.

 

[azul]

Actually not exactly true Azul. DNP is what's known as an oxidative uncoupler. Basically it prevents your cells from going through the krebs cycle, so they can't utilize carbohydrates to make ATP anymore. So the body responds by going into ketosis basically, it produces ketone-bodies which convert fats into an intermediary that can still produce ATP. So your body gets almost all of it's daily caloric needs from stored fat instead of carbs, and since it can't use the carbs, it dumps them off as heat. This is why you get so much hotter on DNP if you eat more carbs. DNP doesn't make your body use muscle or fat indiscriminantly. However, since your body can't use carbs at this point, and you're losing weight quite rapidly, your body will usually tend to sacrifice some muscle as well as fat, even though fat is by far the preferred source of energy, protein is the last thing your body uses for energy. After a cycle though, you're already going catabolic, and trying to cut carbs and run DNP is just not a good idea. I agree on that point, DNP post-cycle not good... do it well after you've recovered, or while still on cycle.

Yeah, I don't have the exact science behind DNP memorized. But I do know that it likes to eat muscle, specially after a cycle.

 

[Tux]

Yeah that was my point. DNP doesn't actually eat away muscle like T3 does. It's just that it puts your body into a state where it can't get enough energy from normal sources so it's difficult to maintain lean mass without gear. Not like T3 where it actually predisposes you to losing as much muscle as fat, but certainly better to run with gear either way.

 

[azul]

Yeah that was my point. DNP doesn't actually eat away muscle like T3 does. It's just that it puts your body into a state where it can't get enough energy from normal sources so it's difficult to maintain lean mass without gear. Not like T3 where it actually predisposes you to losing as much muscle as fat, but certainly better to run with gear either way.

Damnit, I gotta get the last word in!

 

[black sheep]

Back to the gear - SS, First I would not run Tren for 12 weeks

I would do

1-8 Tren 75mg ed or 150mg EOD if you dont want ED injections
1-9 Prop 100mg EOD

Or

1-8 Tren Ace 150mg EOD
1-8 Test Cyp 400/week
1-2 Prop 100mg EOD
9-10 Prop 100mg EOD

Prop will help just start the test and help with tren recovery at the end.