Overlapping post cycle therapy & finishing with a quick acting AS

[Dr. JK]

I found throughout the years that if I started HCG/Clomid towards the end of my cycle overlapping 3-5 days, I was able to retain more muscle gained and avoided less of a crash.

Also if I tapered from a long acting to a short acting AS like winny, it allowed me to start the therapy at the time when the long acting AS was out of my system and used the winny to "phase into" clomid/hcg easier, more muscle was retaiend and less of a crash.

These are just my experiences and what worked for me.
Comments/feedback are welcome

 

[needsize]

I always run a short ester drug like dbol, after my last injection while waiting for the longer esters to taper out. It keeps my blood levels high right up till clomid time

 

[AleaveR]

Would anavar be an acceptable option in this situation?

 

[needsize]

Would anavar be an acceptable option in this situation?

yup, but pricey for that purpose

 

[The Terminator]

I always run a short ester drug like dbol, after my last injection while waiting for the longer esters to taper out. It keeps my blood levels high right up till clomid time

I agree completely...It is a good idea.

 

[R77M]

Needsize what size Dbol doses are you taking during that time? And do you actually overlap your PCT with the Dbol?

 

[Dr. JK]

What about the overalpping of post cycle therapy into the actual cycle? Anybody ever do that?

 

[Stillgoing]

What about the overalpping of post cycle therapy into the actual cycle? Anybody ever do that?

You can, but, its a waste. Clomid, nolv etc are not effective (for restarting natty test) when exo influence still dominates. Now HCG on the other hand, there is a valid argument to use this while still "on" because HCG is said to shut you down as well, thus delaying your recovery. I have done it this way and it did work.

 

[needsize]

Needsize what size Dbol doses are you taking during that time? And do you actually overlap your PCT with the Dbol?

I use the same dose that I use at the beginning of the cycle, which for me is 60-80mg a day, but lower would work well too. I dont overlap pct with the dbol, but I do start hcg about 10 days before the end of the cycle

 

[Dr. JK]

stillgoing,

Can you expalin in more detail the shut down by HCG?

I thought it just mimikes the 2 hpta hormones, LH & FSH, causing a spike in test.

How does it shut down and when after the 1st shot?

Thanks