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smallmovesal

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tonight i asked for more space because she brought it up... because of a situation.

well she took it personally and was basically like space, then you take all the space you want... so now i'm not on my parents' drug plan anymore.

although they are still going to help with my payments. i said ifyou don't want to pay stuff i will add it to my loan.

i don't know what to do... it's so frustrating.
 
yeah like i have to go through the school now to pay for my antidepressants... for instance.

i think i'll be moving myself in the spring. hopefully that's to a job so i don't have to live at home or in this city.
 
I getcha. so you have to be a full time student in order to still be under your parent's health/drug plan. got you now. I work full time, and I only took 1 class this semester and it sorta kicked my ass in between working out, work, and sleep. next semester I will try for 2 classes. I will probably get all soft from not going to the gym, spending that time studying. I also go out like once a month, if anything.
 
any words of wisdom? she made me feel like i was being a mean and horrible person... said i wasn't being myself, which i think really means i'm not the person she wants me to be.

i tried to be as honest as possible and i chose my words carefully.

i'm 24 and i think she should trust my judgement more than she does. she loses sleep worrying about me when i think she should just let me take care of things.

as much as i am currently on medication for depression and had a rough semester. she just was smothering me from another city, if that makes sense.
 
hmmm... I think she is being too motherly at yer age, but then again, she is supporting you, am I right? Maybe you should lighten up the load at school, so you can get your deal straight and have more time to REST easy. money isn't everything, school isn't everything. if you don't take a class this semester, you can always take it the next semester, but don't let that be a habit. did you have a full load at school and work(at all)?
 
smallmovesal said:
any words of wisdom? she made me feel like i was being a mean and horrible person... said i wasn't being myself, which i think really means i'm not the person she wants me to be.

i tried to be as honest as possible and i chose my words carefully.

i'm 24 and i think she should trust my judgement more than she does. she loses sleep worrying about me when i think she should just let me take care of things.

as much as i am currently on medication for depression and had a rough semester. she just was smothering me from another city, if that makes sense.



Jesus. Sounds like Norman Bates' Mother. Mines the same way. When I moved out a few years ago, she gave me this mind-fuck speach about how "I would rather move out & live in sin, than stay at home & help out my parents"! She said that "I didn't care about them". Seems to me that there are ALOT of kids who move out of their parents house, but not alot of parents try to make them feel like shit about it. After I told her that--she shut up.
 
champ... i'm doing a certificate so once april hits i'm done school.

i have full semesters and it gets hard to keep it all together being sick but hopefully that will get better. she doesn't even know half of the shit i went through this semester either, btw.

they are supporting a good chunk of my payments in terms of my car and stuff and i completely appreciate everything they do and i said that, but i also don't need daily phone calls asking what i have due and when am i going to do it, etc.

sigh.

as much as i don't want to be doing this because school is time-consuming... i think maybe i'll get a job next semester. independence is key.

i need to get a job out of school.. need to.
 
getting a job will definitely cramp your student lifestyle, and I will recommend lowering your workload at school, so will remain sane. I am barely going to school, and it just straight up sucks, especially knowing that i will be laid off next month. my truck is paid off, but I unfortunately still live with the parents. they leave me be, but it still cramps my freaking style. it sucks, but until I can find another job, and pay off some bills, I am here. anyway, don't overload your self, and you should be fine, school isn't a race, as long as you finish it with good marks, then that should be better than scrambling to get it finished, while struggling to support yourself. I don't know smalls, I am just trying to shed some light for your ass, is this helping?:confused:
 
no i am finishing up school in april... that's it.

she just needs to realise that she needs to step away and cut the strings a bit.

she has taken it very very hard.

my sister hasn't done it really... so i'm the first.
 
Whenever that happens to me I just keep saying to myself "she means well, she means well..." and end up doing what I decide to do, not what they or she want me to do.
 
In my opinion, your mom hasn't mothered you enogh. You have plenty of freedom.

Your judgement hasn't proven to be very good lately, so I would take everything she says a bit more seriously. You try and justify what you say by "choosing your words carefully" but using big words with your mother doesn't make them right.

If she calls to let you know a bill is die, accept it and shrug it off. If you're going to do something you know she doesn't approve of, don't tell her cuz it'll only piss her off. You have to understand that your lifestyle is probably a lot less conservative than hers was at your age.

AT least your mom and dad pay your some bills and actually care. I guess i'm saying I wish I had your problems.
 
Have you had a real conversation with her yet? Try telling her some of the stuff you've posted here. You and I have had some conversations about her....try repeating some of that to her. You might be surprised by how she responds. Besides, what's the alternative? To keep argueing and hurting eachother?

But don't let anyone tell you you're amoral or mean....even your parents. 'Cause you're not.
 
Smalls, she took you off their drug plan? Well that's not right...no matter what you do really, she shouldn't do that.....
Boy, I had a real wing ding of a past with my mother....it's too sad to talk about even...
I sympathize with you, Smalls...
 
You are 24 and still on your mother's health plan? As long as your mother is still providing favors for you, well you have no right to bitch.
 
Smalls,

Just keep your eye on the prize.. APRIL and finishing school....

Moms can be overbearing, but if you went to work full time, you would just be trading one pressure for another... :( :( :(

Hang in there :)

starfish
 
starfish said:
Smalls,

Just keep your eye on the prize.. APRIL and finishing school....

Moms can be overbearing, but if you went to work full time, you would just be trading one pressure for another... :( :( :(

Hang in there :)

starfish

I agree.
 
BO - that shit is pretty common in Canada.

Small - tell your Mom to fuck off. she's just trying to visit her own inadequacies on you, and relive her 20s through you.

Parents need to hear that shit every now and themn.
 
taps i said everything i could think of with her... we didn't argue. in fact both of us ended up crying.

i told her how her constant calling made me feel, etc, and that i knew she did that because she cared, but that it ended up being an added stressor because i knew she'd be always talking about what i had due etc.

she just doesn't see it my way basically and won't really try unfortunately.

but we're still talking so i guess that's a good thing.
 
BO-CEPHUS said:
You are 24 and still on your mother's health plan? As long as your mother is still providing favors for you, well you have no right to bitch.

I completely agree

I am sorry girl I know you have been through a lot and you are on medication for depression so I am not trying to be mean, but you cannot have the best of both worlds. If you still live as a 16 year old that is how you will be treated and should be treated. You cannot tell your mom to stop nagging you about when bills are due when they take care of your major bills for you like, rent, car, prescriptions. You live under the roof that they pay for not you. If you do not like it move out on your own and support yourself. If you cannot do that then you must accept your situation. Now once again I am not saying this to be mean I am just stating the facts of life so to speak

A good modo for you to start following is:

I will find the strength to change the things in my life that can be changed for the better and the discipline to accept the things I cannot change for what they are.
 
sorry girl the way it read was as if you lived at home. However it still does apply if they are helping to support you, your gonna have to accept the fact that they are gonna be the way they want. They have a right to. Even if they didnt they have a right to they are your parents. There are many people who would love to have their parents be interested in their lives the way your mother is interested in yours. Try to remember that. Once again I am not trying to be mean to you. I am just telling you how life really is.
 
Someone gave me some good advice, and that is....

"You need to have and live your life".

Smalls, your not going to please your family with every decision you make, just remember it is your life.
20 years from now, you don't want to look back and wonder if you had done what you wanted, instead of what your family wanted, would you be happier. That will just cause greater animosity towards your mom.

Like 'starfish" said, "keep your eye on the prize".

You will do good, and your parents will come around.
Just remember to have some pride and confidence in yourself.:)
 
I do once again want to say that I am not trying to be mean to you just trying to show you a different prespective on this
smallmovesal said:
i'm 24 and i think she should trust my judgement more than she does. she loses sleep worrying about me when i think she should just let me take care of things.

as much as i am currently on medication for depression and had a rough semester. she just was smothering me from another city, if that makes sense.

You say she should trust your judgement and then say right away why she would have reason to worry about you and your judgement.

smallmovesal said:
they are supporting a good chunk of my payments in terms of my car and stuff and i completely appreciate everything they do and i said that, but i also don't need daily phone calls asking what i have due and when am i going to do it, etc.

sigh.

as much as i don't want to be doing this because school is time-consuming... i think maybe i'll get a job next semester. independence is key.

i need to get a job out of school.. need to.

Now here you say that you are dependent upon them and that does often keep parents in the picture of trying to make decisions for you especially when they pay for the decisions.

And lastly and dont take this the wrong way but your talking about not having enough time for a job. Girl how many hours do you spend on this board a day. You average close to 35 posts a day. Trust me you may have to re-evaluate your priorities but you do have time to work and go to school at the same time.

Hope you take this constructively as it was meant. I am a firm believer that sometimes the best help to you can give someone who has been down on their luck is to not coddle them as much and tell them how it actually is.
 
points totally taken... and i do try to consider things from alternate perspectives.

but at the same time i'd like to point out that when i post on here i'm often working at the same time on my homework for design.
 
smallmovesal said:
any words of wisdom? she made me feel like i was being a mean and horrible person... said i wasn't being myself, which i think really means i'm not the person she wants me to be.

i tried to be as honest as possible and i chose my words carefully.

i'm 24 and i think she should trust my judgement more than she does. she loses sleep worrying about me when i think she should just let me take care of things.

as much as i am currently on medication for depression and had a rough semester. she just was smothering me from another city, if that makes sense.

Smallmoves-

Your mom sounds very similar to mine. Actually, you and I are in very similar situations. Im 24, finishing my undergrad, and for the past 6-8 years, have been suffering from, and overcoming, social anxiety and depression....

I know *exactly* how hard it can be to keep up with ur school work, deal with a major mental illness that clouds your thinking and undermines your emotional stability, while dealing with demanding parents who are unsupportive, or emotionally manipulative. This is one of the hardest things a person can ever face. So I contradulate u for having the courage to make it this far. Its not easy, and dont let anyone tell you its not easy.

My mom is emotionally manipulative. She tells me how evil i am, or what a bad son I am when she doesnt get the relationship she wants. She expects our relationship to be perfect and conflict free, without admitting to any of her dysfunctional behavours, or working towards changing them. Basically, she wants all the benefits of a "normal" relationship, but none of the work and honest introspection associated with building *healthy* relationships. And when I dont give her what she wants, she trys to make me feel bad by crying, sending me insulting letters, *incessent* bitching about how baaaaaaaaaaaaadddddd I make her feel.

Whats helped me? If your depression is caused primarly by enviromental stressors, specialized cognitive therapy for depression, practiced everyday, would normalize ur self esteem so enviromental stressors become less "poigent". MuscleBrains isnt a big proponent of cognitive therapy because one of its intended effects, "behavour modification", goes against his nondirective theraputic philisophy.

If you identify with passive, nondirective, theraputic approaches, then perhaps cognitive therapy is not for you.....

however, cognitive therapy specialized for depression, and *successful* nondirective theraputic approaches specialized for depression, both act to change an individuals irrational thinking patterns, either directly or indirectly, which allievates depression. The 2 methods just go about changing an individuals thoughts in a different way.......

Why does cognitive therapy work?

1) social psychology trusim --- our thoughts control our feelings. If we constantly repeat how shitty we are, how worthless we are, how unattractive we are......we begin to believe these irrational thoughts and start feeling depresed. The opposite is also true: If we expose our brains to rational, realistic, conditional statements about our self worth ex "mabey, I have a few more postive qualities then I used to think"............our brain begins to beleive this........and consequently, we begin to feel better. Because depression magnifys the stress associated with problematic situations, cognitive therapy will help you deal more effectivily with life problems you dont have alot of control over ie your mom....

it really all comes down to ur emotional wellbeing. Once ur head is clear, your free to use ur intellectual gifts to make $$, which will reduce financial dependance on ur mom and the related crumby situations...

:) good luck
 
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Why don't you just lay off the drugs? Obviously they don't benefit you, they just fuck with your head. From the sounds of it, you're getting rather dependent on them also.
 
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