over training legs

[coreygb]

Go Moya.

 

[moya]

You are awfully arrogant and rude for someone that didn't know suspension does not have an ester attached to it, wtf are you talking about... of course i know this, ive ran it as the base of my cycle twice... and didn't know suspension aromatizes faster than other tests. i understand that... dont know what makes you think that...

Second, I like how you sifted through my post for three days dude, i saw your post today, i dont just sit around here all day... and googled biological terms, when I was talking from the top of my head. you mean trolling?... The majority of your post was your opinion. no, it was mostly fact You so called powerlifters like that wide stance, so you can put a lot of weight on the bar and do half squats and try to look strong. whatever you want to call it, its still better leverage, and i lift in the USPF and USPA which are known worldwide for legit judging Yeah, leg extensions wreck your knees, that seems to be the theme around here you picked up on. it a theme i have endorsed for years Of course they will wreck your knees when you are trying to do weight you can't handle, because your form is going to be incorrect. how can you use bad form on a machine that follows a fixed path? lol... Judging from your erroneous posts your form and mechanics are incorrect. guess you havent seen my vids... The original poster was talking about Tom Platz a BB not a power-lifter in case you didn't know, so why would you use powerlifter techniques in relation with a BB? i didnt advise any techniques... i stated that the CNS will fatigue before your legs will... Same scenario for leg presses, doing weight you should not be doing is going to wreck your knees. You probably never thought of that, right? Half leg presses build your legs, right? dont put words in my mouth Trying to impress everyone in the gym by doing weight you cannot handle is the way to go according to you. i handle my business, dont know where you are getting this from...

Listen dude, like I said you dont even know about test, you need a class in AAS 101, then come and see me. I told the one dude about water pills, you ran off with it to another post, real clever. ??? Stop piecing people's posts together your post is fully intact, i am responding to each 'point' at a time... try that with my post and see where you get... and stealing info from Flex Mag. It's too obvious dude... lol, youre cookie cutter bodybulding leg routine is more like somthing out of a flexmag lol...

Have a good night Mr. Moya, you're the man....

see bold... once again... sometimes i wonder if im wasting my time... but if i can save one new lifter...

 

[moya]

Go Moya.

 

[ledhead]

No, you dont know about test suspension, I can have APP bring it back up. You had an arguement with him about it, and he was right. I actually had your back a little, go back and read it. That's what makes me think that you don't know what you're talking about and you don't.... No, a lot of your so called facts are for powerlifters, not for BB's, if they are facts? No, I never seen your videos and dont want see 130lb people cheat on weight they cant do. You certainly where advising tequniques by advising a wider stance to do more weight, so they can do half squats. Handle your business then... and stay the fuck out of mine. You're wasting your time because you're clueless, you think what you do is a comprehensive tool that everyone should do. Another sign of an arrogant-ignorant prick. Yeah, you forgot about the water pill, I can have APP bring that back up too. As for bad form on a fixed path, by cheating on the exercise...You dont know that either, right? Do you want me to break it down some more, by doing too much weight and doing the exercise half-ass, you get it?

Save it, please! like I said go take a class in ASS 101 then come and see me until then stfu. Trolling, you're an artist at it, or you woudn't have to say derogatory remarks. Keep your advice, then you will be saving lifters.... I'll put words in your mouth if I feel like it, that's where you were getting at in the first place. You don't how to word anything, so I helped your dumb ass along. You started the whole arguement, Mr. Powerlifter champion...lol. Go back and re-read the thread...and see how horrible your attitude is....

Evidently, fear is your only God or you woudn't have to attempt to shoot down anyone that knows more than you, and you try all the time. Little advice, watch your tone and attitude in your posts then you will be alright, I'm sure you're nice-quiet boy in the world. Internet tough guys are too obvious, meaning you are a pussy IRL...

 

[moya]

No, you dont know about test suspension, I can have APP bring it back up. You had an arguement with him about it, and he was right.
the discussion was about using masteron at sub-optimal bodyfat... and all the other posters agreed with me if i remember correctly...
I actually had your back a little, so you didnt know either?lol go back and read it. That's what makes me think that you don't know what you're talking about and you don't.... No, a lot of your so called facts are for powerlifters, not for BB's, if they are facts? No, I never seen your videos and dont want see 130lb people cheat on weight they cant do.
youre right, i must have bribed the judges to pass my lifts lol
You certainly where advising tequniques by advising a wider stance to do more weight, no i didnt, quote me... you said a narrow stance gives more leverage, and i say that is not true... i never told anyone how they should stand, just how to get better leverage
so they can do half squats. Handle your business then... and stay the fuck out of mine. this thread was my business before it was yours... dont get pissy because you cant defend your argument...
You're wasting your time because you're clueless, you think what you do is a comprehensive tool that everyone should do. Another sign of an arrogant-ignorant prick. once again, i didnt tell anyone to do anything; im saying the CNS will fatigue before your legs THATS IT, THAT is the subject here...
Yeah, you forgot about the water pill, I can have APP bring that back up too. As for bad form on a fixed path, by cheating on the exercise...You dont know that either, right? Do you want me to break it down some more, by doing too much weight and doing the exercise half-ass, you get it? i dont get it... on a leg extention (which i was reffering to) either it goes up or it dosnt... how do you cheat a leg extention?!?

Save it, please! like I said go take a class in ASS 101 then come and see me until then stfu. Trolling, you're an artist at it, or you woudn't have to say derogatory remarks. Keep your advice, then you will be saving lifters.... I'll put words in your mouth if I feel like it, that's where you were getting at in the first place. You don't how to word anything, so I helped your dumb ass along. You started the whole arguement, Mr. Powerlifter champion...lol. Go back and re-read the thread...and see how horrible your attitude is....

Evidently, fear is your only God or you woudn't have to attempt to shoot down anyone that knows more than you, and you try all the time. Little advice, watch your tone and attitude in your posts then you will be alright, I'm sure you're nice-quiet boy in the world. Internet tough guys are too obvious, meaning you are a pussy IRL...

have a nice day...
when you're willing to discuss the thread topic, let me know...

 

[moya]

you're right... my form needs some work... maybe you can help me with it... any tips?

 

[stevesmi]

k this stops now. I think all 3 of you know why you are getting timed out. do i really have to explain?

people need to learn to accept other peoples opinions on fitness. we all have different goals. powerlifters and bodybuilders DO NOT work out the same and have the same techniques. everyone has different genetics, some guys will excell at powerlifting, others will struggle and vice versa.

in the future do not pick fights or flame other posters, and do not cheerlead flaming either and instigate it. this thread had really good potential and good discussion with squat stances etc. but was blown by the personal stuff back and forth. i hate seeing good bro's flaming each other, so lets everyone cool off for a day or two and lets drop the war. take out your aggression on the weights!!

 

[johnnyrockit8665]

Damn that got heated!

I think you can overtrain legs if you are trying to put on size. but where the line is drawn is different from person to person IMO. I agree though 225 for 10 min. straight is a little over kill. but hey it worked for him! If there was no such thing as overtraining legs for size endurance athletes would be huge!

I have to say for his size Moya is pretty damn strong! I hate when bros take this personal cause theres nothin better than reading a good civil debate I learn alot from them most the time....

Peace Brothers!

 

[ceo]

The biggest BBers started off as PLers. Ronnie competed PLing. Johnnie Jackson still does.

Franco and other BBers back then used to do strongman events.

Any BBer who wants to be the biggest BBer they can be...IMHO...should build a base by doing PLing (not necessarily competing) for at least a good 3-5 years before switching to train like a BBer. Of course the best course of action would be to switch to training like a Powerbuilder (combo of the two).