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[Anthony Roberts]

Here I was hoping for a link to JAMA (The Journal Of The American Medical Association), and all I got was .......nothing. Boy do I feel silly
BTW non-plats can't search at EF. I'm a cheap bastard, and plan to stay that way.

Here's one on the ingredient in myogenx:

http://www.superhumanradio.com/research/Asian J Androl 2005 Fadogia agrestis.pdf

And for info on how much Clomid raises test, read my profile on it:

http://www.steroid.com/Clomid.php

Which has references.

You'll see that Fadogia increases testosterone more than clomid. If you want it any easier than me finding the studies for you and linking you, you'll have to have someone read it out loud to you.

 

[Anthony Roberts]

Posts like this are hilarious. I don't know about you bro, but if I don't like a party, I leave. I don't hang around and complain about it. If Mac and Ulter are so great, go hang with them. What's so hard to figure out?

Exactly.

 

[Powerbuilder333]

Here's one on the ingredient in myogenx:

http://www.superhumanradio.com/research/Asian J Androl 2005 Fadogia agrestis.pdf

And for info on how much Clomid raises test, read my profile on it:

http://www.steroid.com/Clomid.php

Which has references.

You'll see that Fadogia increases testosterone more than clomid. If you want it any easier than me finding the studies for you and linking you, you'll have to have someone read it out loud to you.

Thanks for the links.
I'm not a scientist, but I like to play one on the internet - not really. That's why JAMA is awesome, because the studies they publish are peer reviewed by real experts, and not left to the limited thought processes of meathead powerlifters like me -
So I gather your product Myogenx has never been studied? But a key ingrediant has. Assuming Myogenx actually has the acqueous extract of Fadogia agrestis in it (OK), this study proves that white male albino rats from Nigeria (the capital of internet scams - just a coincidence?) will benifit from a surge in testosterone production, which will help their erectile dysfunction.
I'm not in a position to evaluate the quality of Myogenx, but now I see your reluctance to link this study to your product.
Good luck with your endeavors.

 

[Anthony Roberts]

Thanks for the links.
I'm not a scientist, but I like to play one on the internet - not really. That's why JAMA is awesome, because the studies they publish are peer reviewed by real experts, and not left to the limited thought processes of meathead powerlifters like me -
So I gather your product Myogenx has never been studied? But a key ingrediant has. Assuming Myogenx actually has the acqueous extract of Fadogia agrestis in it (OK), this study proves that white male albino rats from Nigeria (the capital of internet scams - just a coincidence?) will benifit from a surge in testosterone production, which will help their erectile dysfunction.
I'm not in a position to evaluate the quality of Myogenx, but now I see your reluctance to link this study to your product.
Good luck with your endeavors.

I suppose the 1,000% increase in test (bloodwork posted on steroid.com) isn't relevant either? Oh...and the other 2 ingredients in it (vitamin E and Zinc)...I suppose they've never had any studies on them either?

Really...you need to do research and stop asking me to do it for you. Then you'd see that my product does what it's supposed to, and very well. But then again, that would also make you not look foolish too...and you seem intent on doing anything to avoid looking smart.

 

[Powerbuilder333]

I suppose the 1,000% increase in test (bloodwork posted on steroid.com) isn't relevant either? Oh...and the other 2 ingredients in it (vitamin E and Zinc)...I suppose they've never had any studies on them either?

Really...you need to do research and stop asking me to do it for you. Then you'd see that my product does what it's supposed to, and very well. But then again, that would also make you not look foolish too...and you seem intent on doing anything to avoid looking smart.

Dude, your the one selling the product. Why would I spend thousands to have your products researched for you? It'd cost hundreds just to verify that your products actually has the ingrediants in it you claim.
It's a shame you won't (can't) back up your claims with legit peer reviewed research.
You claimed you had studies proving that Myogenx would increase test production more than Clomid. I just asked you to post a link to the study. You still haven't done that! Admit it, MYOGENX HAS NEVER BEEN STUDIED!
There's lots of legit studies done on Vit E, and Zinc. I use both.
A study showing that a plant extract increases test in Nigerian albino lab rats does nothing to prove that Myogenx is ligit.
Only a fool would buy a product from a liar, and that's what you've proven yourself to be.

 

[Anthony Roberts]

Dude, your the one selling the product. Why would I spend thousands to have your products researched for you? It'd cost hundreds just to verify that your products actually has the ingrediants in it you claim.
It's a shame you won't (can't) back up your claims with legit peer reviewed research.
You claimed you had studies proving that Myogenx would increase test production more than Clomid. I just asked you to post a link to the study. You still haven't done that! Admit it, MYOGENX HAS NEVER BEEN STUDIED!
There's lots of legit studies done on Vit E, and Zinc. I use both.
A study showing that a plant extract increases test in Nigerian albino lab rats does nothing to prove that Myogenx is ligit.
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Ummm....apparently you didn't read the study, right? It increased LH and Test in the study I posted.

And somehow, there's also bloodwork showing a 1000% increase, which you are also ignoring.

You're arguing a dead point. Nobody believes that MyoGenX doesn't work.

The ingredient(s) in it have been studied, and they all do what I say they do, and the product has been used successfully by literally hundreds of people, many of whom have posted their results all over the internet.

You're really arguing a nonsensical point. Really, to be frank, nobody with half a brain would argue that MyoGenX doesn't work.

 

[Powerbuilder333]

I said it once, I'll say it again - good luck with your endeavors.

 

[Nelson Montana]

The ingredients in MyogenX have been shown to work. How many studies do you need? It's not like John Hopkins and the Mayo clinic have a bif investment to see if a supplement increases testosterone. We need to look into the evidence that exists.

Now, if that's not good enough or the fact that something works in lab animals isn't immpressive enough, fine. For what it's worth, I have tested MyogeneX on myself and yes, my LH was higher. In the end will it grow as much muscle as Sustanon? Of course not, but that's what I think this argument comes down to sometimes. It's silly.

For more on that subject I will direct you to a curiously ignored post that I believe sums this all up. http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...m/steroids-supplements-final-word-559839.html

 

[Powerbuilder333]

LOL - One study without attitude would have been enough. It came with attitude which prompted me to actually read the study. It's the type of study that the closer you look at it the less convincing it becomes.
Helpfull hint to those who sell products. If you claim "studies prove", then just link the study, WTF? The bigger the issue you make it, the more scrutney it'll have to endure.

 

[ukkared]

I don't understand what the big deal is with this thread, common folks chill. You can either take the guys at their word or not who cares. If you had a financial stake in a product and ran a website like this, you can't tell me you wouldn't throw a plug in every now and then. 10 pages of hostility is a little much.