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OTC PCT Products - which combo?

Ahhh time for PCT :worried:


I will be using to Nolva + HCG + an OTC recovery stack.

The combos I hear most mentioned are either

-UNLEASHED, POST CYCLE, Sustain
-PP Test recovery stack.

Do any bro's have any preferences/ experiences they/comments can share?
 
The Unleashed, Post Cycle, Sustain worked pretty well for me. It seemed to help me avoid any crash in energy and strength and I never lost my sex drive during this PCT.
 
cobracock1979 said:
Ahhh time for PCT :worried:


I will be using to Nolva + HCG + an OTC recovery stack.

The combos I hear most mentioned are either

-UNLEASHED, POST CYCLE, Sustain
-PP Test recovery stack.

Do any bro's have any preferences/ experiences they/comments can share?
Both have been working great for every one. I would like to see some feed back from people using both the recovery stack and postcycle/unleashed.

Prob overkill on the pct but wtf it would be one fuck of a pct lol. :)
 
needtogetaas said:
Both have been working great for every one. I would like to see some feed back from people using both the recovery stack and postcycle/unleashed.

Prob overkill on the pct but wtf it would be one fuck of a pct lol. :)

+1
 
The sustain seems to be the common factor - I guess the question is really "unleashed/post cycle" OR "toco8/endoamp"?

Lookin at them, the 2 combo's appear to attack the problem in completely fifferent ways?
 
cobracock1979 said:
The sustain seems to be the common factor - I guess the question is really "unleashed/post cycle" OR "toco8/endoamp"?

Lookin at them, the 2 combo's appear to attack the problem in completely fifferent ways?


THe taco8/Endoamp is more for recovery and anti catabolism. UNLEASHED and POST CYCLE are more for restoring HPTA and detoxifying liver, so yes, completely different mechanisms and having both wouldn't hurt.
 
needtogetaas said:
Both have been working great for every one. I would like to see some feed back from people using both the recovery stack and postcycle/unleashed.

Prob overkill on the pct but wtf it would be one fuck of a pct lol. :)

Well here you go needto:

I use both plus clomid for the first week. Is this overkill? Yes. Do I care? No. The reason is simple, if your going to do the aas you better make sure you do the PCT just as well if not better.

I have to say that Unleashed worked the best for me. Something about it just cranked up the natty test. Woke up with morning wood all of the time and I'm a lot older than most on this board.

PP's stuff always works well for me (except the Dermatherm - but that's another issue).

PCT is more important than the cycle itself in my mind.

I had bloodwork done each and everytime after PCT and the results are right where I want them to be. What more can you ask for?
 
Chocolate_Thunder said:
Well here you go needto:

I use both plus clomid for the first week. Is this overkill? Yes. Do I care? No. The reason is simple, if your going to do the aas you better make sure you do the PCT just as well if not better.

I have to say that Unleashed worked the best for me. Something about it just cranked up the natty test. Woke up with morning wood all of the time and I'm a lot older than most on this board.

PP's stuff always works well for me (except the Dermatherm - but that's another issue).

PCT is more important than the cycle itself in my mind.

I had bloodwork done each and everytime after PCT and the results are right where I want them to be. What more can you ask for?
I was just telling a few people the other day that aked me about dermatherm that i will not lie for a company. No matter how much I would make from it its not worth my good name.

So when they asked about the dermatherm I told them. Its not that good. They will be coming out with a different type but the one they got now I do not like.

All there other products are 100% grade a good shit though.
 
needtogetaas said:
I was just telling a few people the other day that aked me about dermatherm that i will not lie for a company. No matter how much I would make from it its not worth my good name.

So when they asked about the dermatherm I told them. Its not that good. They will be coming out with a different type but the one they got now I do not like.

All there other products are 100% grade a good shit though.

Yeah, I think we may have discussed this once before I'm not totally sure, but Dermathem just didn't work. It definitely turned your skin red and was hotter than hell for the first 20 minues or so.

You had to use so much of it also. I remember running out of space to rub it all into my skin. It also discolored my clothing.

Lipoflame was WAY better, cocts less and was more effective.

I do agree that all of the other products I've tried from them were great.
 
needtogetaas said:
I was just telling a few people the other day that aked me about dermatherm that i will not lie for a company. No matter how much I would make from it its not worth my good name.

So when they asked about the dermatherm I told them. Its not that good. They will be coming out with a different type but the one they got now I do not like.

All there other products are 100% grade a good shit though.


That's honesty you find find too often.

I've said the same thing. There are a couple of Protein Factory products that people ask me about and I'll tell them they can get something else just as good elsewhere for less money. Other than that,I think the line is exceptional, even that which I collect no commission.

Needto and I and Omega have also given props to each others products we found to be effective.

This is the best way to do business IMO. Instead of blindly hyping whatever you buy and sell, it's believing in the products because they truly are good. A rare commodity in this industry.
 
Nelson Montana said:
That's honesty you find find too often.

I've said the same thing. There are a couple of Protein Factory products that people ask me about and I'll tell them they can get something else just as good elsewhere for less money. Other than that,I think the line is exceptional, even that which I collect no commission.

Needto and I and Omega have also given props to each others products we found to be effective.

This is the best way to do business IMO. Instead of blindly hyping whatever you buy and sell, it's believing in the products because they truly are good. A rare commodity in this industry.

You mean you don't like Andogenerator? :)
 
Nelson Montana said:
That's honesty you find find too often.

I've said the same thing. There are a couple of Protein Factory products that people ask me about and I'll tell them they can get something else just as good elsewhere for less money. Other than that,I think the line is exceptional, even that which I collect no commission.

Needto and I and Omega have also given props to each others products we found to be effective.

This is the best way to do business IMO. Instead of blindly hyping whatever you buy and sell, it's believing in the products because they truly are good. A rare commodity in this industry.

so very true. That way in the end you know you gave the best advice,did your best to help that person, were honest,and true to yourself. No amount of money is worth my good our good names of helping people.

If I go out of my way to help the best way and the right way,people will give back to you for it.
 
needtogetaas said:
Both have been working great for every one. I would like to see some feed back from people using both the recovery stack and postcycle/unleashed.

Prob overkill on the pct but wtf it would be one fuck of a pct lol. :)

I've done the postcycle/unleashed/sustain before and it worked very nicely. I'd highly recommend it to anyone.
 
cobracock1979 said:
Thx Nelson,

FYI Post Cycle is our of stock.

Go to www.proteinfactory.com EF actually sells it for LESS! But if you need it, you need it. I'm sure they'll be restocked soon.

jock52: Glad to hear the natty PCT worked for you. I wish more people would try it and see for themselves.
 
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