Ostarine question

[hardrlz]

Hello guys ,
I have a bone fracture on the right humerus, with an operation done and a plate inside, but it has been more than 5 months and the bone hasnt fully recovered yet.I am really desperate, because the healing process is going really slow and i cant go to the gym.

Today i stumbled upon Ostarine and read that at doses of 12.5 e/d it helps bone fractures heal faster. Since the doctors in my country havent heard of it there is no chance that i will get appropriate advice , that's why i turn to you.

I would be really thankful for any advice concerning whether Ostarine will help in my case. Thank you.

 

[kagenical]

Ostarine and IGF can only help in this regard.

 

[dylangemelli]

ostarine has healing properties and should be dosed at 25mg a day... check out uniquemicals.com They will ship international...

 

[liffalot]

Hello guys ,
I have a bone fracture on the right humerus, with an operation done and a plate inside, but it has been more than 5 months and the bone hasnt fully recovered yet.I am really desperate, because the healing process is going really slow and i cant go to the gym.

Today i stumbled upon Ostarine and read that at doses of 12.5 e/d it helps bone fractures heal faster. Since the doctors in my country havent heard of it there is no chance that i will get appropriate advice , that's why i turn to you.

I would be really thankful for any advice concerning whether Ostarine will help in my case. Thank you.

Yea I'm with dylan - for really profound healing effects 25 mgs a day would be best. And yes, OSTA is great at healing all tissues including bones, ligaments, muscle tissue, you name it.

I get all of my SARMs from Sarmssearch.com - best quality and purity available.

 

[hardrlz]

Thanks guys , i am going to research a little bit further and think i will try it and hope it will speed the healing process. Taking into consideration the purpose i use it for wouldn't 12.5 still be enough and in your opinion for how many weeks should i use the ostarine ?

 

[dylangemelli]

8 weeks at 25 mg a day... 12.5 is not going to do much in the healing aspect

 

[hardrlz]

Okay i will run it for 8 weeks @ 25 mg, and also do i need some mild PCT or for example Hcg during the cycle or it is not necessary ?

 

[dylangemelli]

run hcgenerate on cycle or hcg...

mini pct 3 weeks

unleashed/post cycle combo
bridge (double dosed)

 

[sony1]

Okay i will run it for 8 weeks @ 25 mg, and also do i need some mild PCT or for example Hcg during the cycle or it is not necessary ?

Dude, you need to start thinking with your head, and not start putting things into your body based on what random posters says. They earn money by pasting the 25mg thing in every thread (which is why I prefere non-US forums..getting decent advice in here is difficult). Unless you're an experienced AAS user, doing PCT is probably not very tempting. I had nice gains with 8-10mg, I'm now down to 5-6, this stuff is suppressive at 10-11 mg and above in my case.

 

[JINX2898]

HOLY SHIT! I can see where this is going to land......Dude..you think that all these moderators do is earn money by giving advice? LMFAO! DG is a moderator for a reason..He is also a user of what he advises. MONEY? This forum is one of the best forums out there...PROVE me wrong if you can. DG has given his thoughts and advice on HUNDREDS if not thousands of questions.....Do you think if it DID NOT work, members would keep asking him for his knowledge? You can purchase your sarms or anything else from anywhere you want, no member is ever forced to purchase a specific product. anywayyyyyy............. this thread is goin to blow up with that last comment im assuming (makin money)...if you prefer NON US forums what are you doing here anyway? curious......

 

[mrplunkey]

Hello guys ,
I have a bone fracture on the right humerus, with an operation done and a plate inside, but it has been more than 5 months and the bone hasnt fully recovered yet.I am really desperate, because the healing process is going really slow and i cant go to the gym.

Today i stumbled upon Ostarine and read that at doses of 12.5 e/d it helps bone fractures heal faster. Since the doctors in my country havent heard of it there is no chance that i will get appropriate advice , that's why i turn to you.

I would be really thankful for any advice concerning whether Ostarine will help in my case. Thank you.

If you are having trouble with a humeral fracture healing, I'm assuming it was in the proximal humerus since the distal usually heal.

1) Do you have any metabolic disorders such as diabetes?
2) Do you use nicotine in ANY form (including patches). Nicotine makes it very difficult for bones to heal.
3) Have you looked into a bone growth stimulator? Sometimes that's what it takes to make a proximal humerus heal.

The problem with a prox humerus is that the ball portion of your humerus is just a big ball of mush. It's hard to get plates and screws to hold there. The shaft of the bone will take screws just great.

If you've got a radiological image, post it up. But I'm guessing the problem is right near the fracture shown below:

 

[mrplunkey]

And I forgot a basic question...

How old are you? Do you have any history or family history of osteoporosis? Is your calcium intake good?

 

[dylangemelli]

Dude, you need to start thinking with your head, and not start putting things into your body based on what random posters says. They earn money by pasting the 25mg thing in every thread (which is why I prefere non-US forums..getting decent advice in here is difficult). Unless you're an experienced AAS user, doing PCT is probably not very tempting. I had nice gains with 8-10mg, I'm now down to 5-6, this stuff is suppressive at 10-11 mg and above in my case.

your the type or person and reason that makes me just not want to help at times... run whatever the fuck you want... i've put countless hours of use and study in everything i talk and help with... i have a masters degree, i have PROVEN results on not only myself but countless others... you think i get paid for what im doing? You think i cut and paste anything? LOL give me a break... you have any concept of the amount i help here on a daily basis... You know just how much of my time I have given here? Why don't you do a little looking around and seeing what goes on before running your fucking mouth...

 

[oxymoron]

A-fuckin-men.

 

[liffalot]

Dude, you need to start thinking with your head, and not start putting things into your body based on what random posters says. They earn money by pasting the 25mg thing in every thread (which is why I prefere non-US forums..getting decent advice in here is difficult). Unless you're an experienced AAS user, doing PCT is probably not very tempting. I had nice gains with 8-10mg, I'm now down to 5-6, this stuff is suppressive at 10-11 mg and above in my case.

Random posters? We're respectable members, you're the random poster. Go back to your faggy EU forums where you have more than 2 posts. There's a reason Elitefitness has the rep that it does and its because people here are knowledgeable and dedicated to helping people.

Its not even debateable whether OSTA is suppressive below 15 mgs because its not. Even above 20 mgs is very questionable. Your suppression at 10 mgs is imaginary.

Nobody here earns money by recommending dosages, especially not to people who have asked for advice about it. Browse some other forums - youll see people recommending 50 mgs of Ostarine ED. We dont recommend unsafe doses.

Bottom line - Get your facts straight and fix your attitude or shut the fuck up and leave.

 

[hardrlz]

I am 20 years old and yes i think its the proximal humerus. I am not sure for any metabolic disease but i am going to have blood tests on 2nd of January. I am not smoking and also i take Calcium plus Vitamine D supplements plus i try to eat more dairy products.

For the growth stimulator the doctor said that i can look into that only if there is no progress after 8 months from the operation, i tried to reasearch these stimulators, but the information on the internet is very scarce, so i cant make a move on these stimulators on my own.

Thats why i am searching for an alternative for speeding the recovery. I saw that HGH can help, but its too expensive and i dont have the funds for that, so i hope that Ostarine could help.

Here is a picture of my fracture, i hope i uploaded it right

 

[mrplunkey]

I am 20 years old and yes i think its the proximal humerus. I am not sure for any metabolic disease but i am going to have blood tests on 2nd of January. I am not smoking and also i take Calcium plus Vitamine D supplements plus i try to eat more dairy products.

For the growth stimulator the doctor said that i can look into that only if there is no progress after 8 months from the operation, i tried to reasearch these stimulators, but the information on the internet is very scarce, so i cant make a move on these stimulators on my own.

Thats why i am searching for an alternative for speeding the recovery. I saw that HGH can help, but its too expensive and i dont have the funds for that, so i hope that Ostarine could help.

Here is a picture of my fracture, i hope i uploaded it right

You have a distal 1/3 diaphysial fracture of the humerus. Those are fairly rare. I'm guessing it was some sort of high-energy accident (car, motorcycle)? And you weren't plated, you were nailed (an intermedullary nail was use instead of a periarticular plate). In this case, a nail is a much better solution.

And based your limited access to a bone growth stimulator, I'm going to guess non-US health care. Is that correct?

 

[hardrlz]

Yes i am from a Eastern European country . Actually it was arm wrestling , we were playing with 1 friend and when i tried to suddenly push with all my power i just heard a crack and it broke

 

[sony1]

Random posters? We're respectable members, you're the random poster. Go back to your faggy EU forums where you have more than 2 posts. There's a reason Elitefitness has the rep that it does and its because people here are knowledgeable and dedicated to helping people.

Fun fact: Before the cupon thing dylan was recommending only 12,5mgs/ED.

Its not even debateable whether OSTA is suppressive below 15 mgs because its not. Even above 20 mgs is very questionable. Your suppression at 10 mgs is imaginary.

In one clinical trial it was slightly suppressive even at 3mg. GTXi has done numerous studies, I could only find blod samples for 2 of them, though. On the positive side they were running it for up to 16 weeks.

 

[liffalot]

Fun fact: Before the cupon thing dylan was recommending only 12,5mgs/ED.


In one clinical trial it was slightly suppressive even at 3mg. GTXi has done numerous studies, I could only find blod samples for 2 of them, though. On the positive side they were running it for up to 16 weeks.

I used to recommend 12.5 mgs a day too. I'm not saying 12.5 mgs isnt sufficient. Wasnt because of any lack of promotion, was because that was all I had ever used. After moving up to 25 mgs a day and seeing that there was no difference in negative sides, I started recommending 25 mgs ED. I'm never going to tell someone who is bent on 12.5 or 15 mgs that they're wrong because they aren't, just sharing my opinion to someone who asked for it.

That study supports what I've been saying for a long time now; its the length, not the dose that causes suppression (up to a point). Even so, I dont trust those studies because they use more than one independent variable.

 

[RADAR]

Random posters? We're respectable members, you're the random poster. Go back to your faggy EU forums where you have more than 2 posts. There's a reason Elitefitness has the rep that it does and its because people here are knowledgeable and dedicated to helping people.

Its not even debateable whether OSTA is suppressive below 15 mgs because its not. Even above 20 mgs is very questionable. Your suppression at 10 mgs is imaginary.

Nobody here earns money by recommending dosages, especially not to people who have asked for advice about it. Browse some other forums - youll see people recommending 50 mgs of Ostarine ED. We dont recommend unsafe doses.

Bottom line - Get your facts straight and fix your attitude or shut the fuck up and leave.

For the record We do not get paid anything, How we earned our position Is based upon our experience, I have over 45 yrs in this field. If a member is serious i will go 100% out of my way helping ,what i don't like is after taking all that time directing someone they go back to the forums for more advice which really turns me off.
I have trained a ton of members here all the way up to getting into tip top shape to stepping up on stage to competeing the sense of accomplishments follow my advice to the letter is my reward and a great sense of satifation esp taking 1st or second place during a contest!
So please take yourself back to doing more research You're too young and at that age you have plenty of test running thru your body all you need is is the right food to build muscle.

 

[liffalot]

For the record We do not get paid anything, How we earned our position Is based upon our experience, I have over 45 yrs in this field. If a member is serious i will go 100% out of my way helping ,what i don't like is after taking all that time directing someone they go back to the forums for more advice which really turns me off.
I have trained a ton of members here all the way up to getting into tip top shape to stepping up on stage to competeing the sense of accomplishments follow my advice to the letter is my reward and a great sense of satifation esp taking 1st or second place during a contest!
So please take yourself back to doing more research You're too young and at that age you have plenty of test running thru your body all you need is is the right food to build muscle.

Well said, couldnt agree more.

 

[mrplunkey]

I don't doubt that a SARMS compound could aid in bone healing (they obviously stimulate muscle growth and repair).

But what would the mechanism be? Has any work been done on the effect of SARMS on osteoblasts? In muscle the mechanism (I believe) is the SARMS molecule binding to androgen receptors selectively in skeletal muscle. Where would that fit into callus formation and/or bone remodeling?

 

[hardrlz]

Hello guys, today i got my blood tests back and it seems i have low testosterone - only 11 nmol/L , which is too low for my age. Is it possible that the low testosterone interferes with my healing and also would taking Ostarine worsen things for me ?

 

[Jack steel]

Dude, you need to start thinking with your head, and not start putting things into your body based on what random posters says. They earn money by pasting the 25mg thing in every thread (which is why I prefere non-US forums..getting decent advice in here is difficult). Unless you're an experienced AAS user, doing PCT is probably not very tempting. I had nice gains with 8-10mg, I'm now down to 5-6, this stuff is suppressive at 10-11 mg and above in my case.

You're a fuckin Tard and obviously haven't done any of your own research. Gtfo of EF then.

 

[roguemonkeyjr]

Dude, you need to start thinking with your head, and not start putting things into your body based on what random posters says. They earn money by pasting the 25mg thing in every thread (which is why I prefere non-US forums..getting decent advice in here is difficult). Unless you're an experienced AAS user, doing PCT is probably not very tempting. I had nice gains with 8-10mg, I'm now down to 5-6, this stuff is suppressive at 10-11 mg and above in my case.

this comment made me LOL... Nough' said

 

[liffalot]

I don't doubt that a SARMS compound could aid in bone healing (they obviously stimulate muscle growth and repair).

But what would the mechanism be? Has any work been done on the effect of SARMS on osteoblasts? In muscle the mechanism (I believe) is the SARMS molecule binding to androgen receptors selectively in skeletal muscle. Where would that fit into callus formation and/or bone remodeling?

I'll try to dig up some scholarly scientific articles I was reading on it a while back..........thought I remembered them addressing this issue. Could have been speculation since they were older but even so

 

[liffalot]

I don't doubt that a SARMS compound could aid in bone healing (they obviously stimulate muscle growth and repair).

But what would the mechanism be? Has any work been done on the effect of SARMS on osteoblasts? In muscle the mechanism (I believe) is the SARMS molecule binding to androgen receptors selectively in skeletal muscle. Where would that fit into callus formation and/or bone remodeling?

Found one in PDF on my comp by J. Rosen and A. Negro-Vilar on the SARM LGD-2226.

The jist of it was that they're tailoring SARMs to not be selective to only skeletal muscle in order to prevent bone wasting and osteoporosis. It seems from what I cant tell from articles in ironmaglabs etc that this holds true for OSTA as well.

 

[hardrlz]

But in this case would it be useful only for preventing osteoporosis or it also has bone healing properties ?

 

[liffalot]

But in this case would it be useful only for preventing osteoporosis or it also has bone healing properties ?

Quote from the abstract says "...that can stimulate the formation of new bone..."

 

[hardrlz]

I really hope it does. Also is it possible that my low testosterone levels - only 11 nmol/L are interfering with the proper healing of my bones and in this case would Ostarine worsen things ?

 

[[email protected]]

Most of you guys sound like homeopathy doctors. lol I'm glad to be here because you guys know your stuff.

 

[liffalot]

I really hope it does. Also is it possible that my low testosterone levels - only 11 nmol/L are interfering with the proper healing of my bones and in this case would Ostarine worsen things ?

ostarine will not ever worsen things for you. What we are all trying to say is that it can only help in your situation. Your low test is another issue entirely and if you feel like its that big of a problem you might want to talk to your doc about getting on HRT.

I get all my OSTA from sarmssearch.

 

[RickRock13]

I really hope it does. Also is it possible that my low testosterone levels - only 11 nmol/L are interfering with the proper healing of my bones and in this case would Ostarine worsen things ?

Ostarine would not make things worse, but it is entirely possible that it could make it better

 

[RADAR]

I agree taking Ostra will only make things better, I would incorporate 250mgs of test a week to help things along, you'll feel alot better doing that.

 

[fastrip]

I have an injury that causes daily moderate inflammation and stops me from walking once it starts, you can imagine what it's like for someone who dedicated his life to contact sports.

There's only 2 things that have ever worked. The one is cissus quadrangularis, the other is ostarine. I just want to clarify i have never taken any AAS. The hospital did want to inject hyaluronic acid and even suggested cortisol to reduce the inflammation right into the bone where the trauma to the bone marrow had been established, however i declined and decided to find something else. The cissus worked great, but you just have to take it everyday for a month, then keep on going. I did that for 2 months but after i think a month later the pain came back, and that shit is expensive round my way. Ostarine on the other hand was a gamble. Loaded it up (25mg) and downed it with a few other tablets (fish oil, multi-v, astaxanthin, garlic tab and liv-52), i take animal flex too but usually before i sleep.

Anyway back to the osta. I got paranoid for the first 60 secs, felt like i was on 1,3-dime, then the following 24 hours was something like being a kid again, no problems, no worries, no pain, i felt so happy with myself not even the clouds or the rain could change my mood. Whatever it is, ostarine returned my life back to normal. Take this from someone who had his life destroyed for more than 2 years. So whatever you choose to do, do it before some fucker decides to add it to that long list of banned substances.

 

[liffalot]

I have an injury that causes daily moderate inflammation and stops me from walking once it starts, you can imagine what it's like for someone who dedicated his life to contact sports.

There's only 2 things that have ever worked. The one is cissus quadrangularis, the other is ostarine. I just want to clarify i have never taken any AAS. The hospital did want to inject hyaluronic acid and even suggested cortisol to reduce the inflammation right into the bone where the trauma to the bone marrow had been established, however i declined and decided to find something else. The cissus worked great, but you just have to take it everyday for a month, then keep on going. I did that for 2 months but after i think a month later the pain came back, and that shit is expensive round my way. Ostarine on the other hand was a gamble. Loaded it up (25mg) and downed it with a few other tablets (fish oil, multi-v, astaxanthin, garlic tab and liv-52), i take animal flex too but usually before i sleep.

Anyway back to the osta. I got paranoid for the first 60 secs, felt like i was on 1,3-dime, then the following 24 hours was something like being a kid again, no problems, no worries, no pain, i felt so happy with myself not even the clouds or the rain could change my mood. Whatever it is, ostarine returned my life back to normal. Take this from someone who had his life destroyed for more than 2 years. So whatever you choose to do, do it before some fucker decides to add it to that long list of banned substances.

Good post here.

Sounds like you may have rolled up a doobie with with your OSTA, but glad to hear it worked regardless

 

[doublebicep]

Sounds like you may have rolled up a doobie with with your OSTA, but glad to hear it worked regardless

It does. Nothing wrong with that!

 

[fastrip]

Thanks for the comment. My scales are actually out of sync and the dosage i have been taking is much higher than i though, my scales are displaying a -0.05 (yes it's not a 0.001 scale but a 0.01 scale) when i take it off after weighing it up. Seems the dosage is in the range of 70mg+. I did halve it this time and couldn't feel anything, so for what i have, i think i will stick to higher dosage and will run a PCT cycle after 8 weeks before switching back to cissus.

 

[liffalot]

Thanks for the comment. My scales are actually out of sync and the dosage i have been taking is much higher than i though, my scales are displaying a -0.05 (yes it's not a 0.001 scale but a 0.01 scale) when i take it off after weighing it up. Seems the dosage is in the range of 70mg+. I did halve it this time and couldn't feel anything, so for what i have, i think i will stick to higher dosage and will run a PCT cycle after 8 weeks before switching back to cissus.

Whatever works for you. Thats a very high dose but if you can handle it and it's working then whatever you decide is best

 

[elite7777]

I have an injury that causes daily moderate inflammation and stops me from walking once it starts, you can imagine what it's like for someone who dedicated his life to contact sports.

There's only 2 things that have ever worked. The one is cissus quadrangularis, the other is ostarine. I just want to clarify i have never taken any AAS. The hospital did want to inject hyaluronic acid and even suggested cortisol to reduce the inflammation right into the bone where the trauma to the bone marrow had been established, however i declined and decided to find something else. The cissus worked great, but you just have to take it everyday for a month, then keep on going. I did that for 2 months but after i think a month later the pain came back, and that shit is expensive round my way. Ostarine on the other hand was a gamble. Loaded it up (25mg) and downed it with a few other tablets (fish oil, multi-v, astaxanthin, garlic tab and liv-52), i take animal flex too but usually before i sleep.

Anyway back to the osta. I got paranoid for the first 60 secs, felt like i was on 1,3-dime, then the following 24 hours was something like being a kid again, no problems, no worries, no pain, i felt so happy with myself not even the clouds or the rain could change my mood. Whatever it is, ostarine returned my life back to normal. Take this from someone who had his life destroyed for more than 2 years. So whatever you choose to do, do it before some fucker decides to add it to that long list of banned substances.

Wow, that is interesting! I am happy you read it helped you soo much! The medical community needs to do lots of research on Osta. Prob a lot of uses for it!

 

[rich101]

Yeah DG helped me a lot and the dude knows what he's talking about! I looked into sarms for months, gathered everything I could from forums, med sites, papers, etc. I really don't give a shit if somebody makes a profit for sharing his knowledge and/or promotes his products/services. It's a win-win IMO. As for ostarine, 12.5mg did shit for my rats, I had to bump it to 25mg to see results. I recommend unique, just found sarmssearch to be too expensive and frankly rats very happy with unique, so if it ain't broke...