original 1-ad

[blackhat]

Patrick Arnold just came out with another supposedly legal version of 1-ad which he says is 75% as effective (although like 3x as expensive).

Just wondering why his original Andro formula never made it to the black market? There is extremely high demand for this product. It's very effective even compared to many oral AAS and its relatively side effect free...

I remember the first 1ad, I had terrible sides on that stuff with minimal gains, very odd. I think the newest stuff is much better. I gained 12 or so lbs of lean mass on havoc alone. I have two bottles of cyclotren sitting here that I'll be cracking open soon too.


Also, for all those saying "get the real deal", that isn't always an option for a lot of people. So when aas arent available what do you do? Go legal and give the stuff from JustAddMuscle a shot. I said Justaddmuscle because these guys are the best I've dealt with as far a customer service, speed, and pricing go.

 

[needtogetarmy]

If you want to take a ride on the prohormone train, get some Cyclotren from JustAddMuscle.com.

He's a sponsor - top notch service and support.

Check him out on the supplement board.

I'll definitely check this out!

 

[Just Add Muscle]

I remember the first 1ad, I had terrible sides on that stuff with minimal gains, very odd. I think the newest stuff is much better. I gained 12 or so lbs of lean mass on havoc alone. I have two bottles of cyclotren sitting here that I'll be cracking open soon too.


Also, for all those saying "get the real deal", that isn't always an option for a lot of people. So when aas arent available what do you do? Go legal and give the stuff from JustAddMuscle a shot. I said Justaddmuscle because these guys are the best I've dealt with as far a customer service, speed, and pricing go.

Thanks bro,I am dying to crack open a bottle of Havoc myself.I am absolutely loving Cyclotren by itself for a summer hard muscle gainer.Im going to finish the bottle I am on and run another one with Havoc in it and up the calories to try to do a one month mini bulk and then go on a cutter.

 

[smoke67]

1 AD--- I ran it two times. Pros, strenghth was through the roof and put on a few pounds Cons, I have never taken anything oral or inj that made me feel as bad as 1 AD did. You could not pay me to take that shit again!!!

 

[swole]

for the record original 1-AD made me lethargic

cyclotren makes me feel energized and aware

 

[Improvise]

I ran CycloTren and Havoc TOGETHER and noticed minimal gains.

I was thrashing myself and eating very clean with above maintenance calories and was disappointed that I didn't feel a single thing and spent $91 on the two products.

Then again, my friend took havoc ALONE and he noticed huge strength gains.

I really think ph's work for some and don't for others. You won't know until you try for yourself.

 

[swole]

I ran CycloTren and Havoc TOGETHER and noticed minimal gains.

I was thrashing myself and eating very clean with above maintenance calories and was disappointed that I didn't feel a single thing and spent $91 on the two products.

Then again, my friend took havoc ALONE and he noticed huge strength gains.

I really think ph's work for some and don't for others. You won't know until you try for yourself.

the same goes for AAS

i've seen them do nothing for quite a few peeps - and they were taking more than i was at the time

 

[KnockedOutFAST]

Some people i know have only taken prohormones and look better and bigger than people i see juicing.

 

[blackhat]

Some people i know have only taken prohormones and look better and bigger than people i see juicing.

Definitely depends on the genetics. My brother has a hard time gaining a great deal of weight while I can gain and lose it very fast. Almost any substance I take for training has a profound effect on me, while it seems to benefit him very little.

Justaddmuscle, did you guys do any clinical trials with Havoc? I'd be interested to see how those turned out..

 

[Nelson Montana]

Patrick Arnold just came out with another supposedly legal version of 1-ad which he says is 75% as effective (although like 3x as expensive).

Just wondering why his original Andro formula never made it to the black market? There is extremely high demand for this product. It's very effective even compared to many oral AAS and its relatively side effect free...

75% more effective than being total garbage? Not very impressive.