original 1-ad

[Baloo86]

Patrick Arnold just came out with another supposedly legal version of 1-ad which he says is 75% as effective (although like 3x as expensive).

Just wondering why his original Andro formula never made it to the black market? There is extremely high demand for this product. It's very effective even compared to many oral AAS and its relatively side effect free...

 

[swole]

If you want to take a ride on the prohormone train, get some Cyclotren from JustAddMuscle.com.

He's a sponsor - top notch service and support.

Check him out on the supplement board.

 

[swole]

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/bodybuilding-supplements/complete-summer-stack-601365.html

 

[bw1]

Get the real deal

 

[KnockedOutFAST]

Cyclotren is a great product. If you dont know already, Tren XTREME was one of the best prohormones to date, and its now illegal, but i think cyclotren is the same exact formula....but you get 20mg less per day (90 to 70)

 

[swole]

Get the real deal

Of course. But there are people who want legal supps and/or can't/won't inject.

It's that simple.

 

[sparetire]

I think prohormones are a waste of time unless that's all you have. I have been a fan of 1-ad and Mag-10 in the past, but looking back on it, I usually lost most of my gains and I had more side effects on that than the real deal.

 

[ALIN]

Get the real deal

Good advice. Fot the money and the time wasted,,, your better off with the real deal.

 

[Just Add Muscle]

I think prohormones are a waste of time unless that's all you have. I have been a fan of 1-ad and Mag-10 in the past, but looking back on it, I usually lost most of my gains and I had more side effects on that than the real deal.

1-ad=junk.Yes prohormones are a waste imo too.Thankfully today we have OTC AAS.

 

[Just Add Muscle]

Good advice. Fot the money and the time wasted,,, your better off with the real deal.

Actually some of the over the counter products today are just as strong as the illegal stuff mg for mg.Pheraplex while it will not be legal for long is just as strong as any other oral out there if your looking for strength and bulk with even water weight.

 

[blackhat]

Patrick Arnold just came out with another supposedly legal version of 1-ad which he says is 75% as effective (although like 3x as expensive).

Just wondering why his original Andro formula never made it to the black market? There is extremely high demand for this product. It's very effective even compared to many oral AAS and its relatively side effect free...

I remember the first 1ad, I had terrible sides on that stuff with minimal gains, very odd. I think the newest stuff is much better. I gained 12 or so lbs of lean mass on havoc alone. I have two bottles of cyclotren sitting here that I'll be cracking open soon too.


Also, for all those saying "get the real deal", that isn't always an option for a lot of people. So when aas arent available what do you do? Go legal and give the stuff from JustAddMuscle a shot. I said Justaddmuscle because these guys are the best I've dealt with as far a customer service, speed, and pricing go.

 

[needtogetarmy]

If you want to take a ride on the prohormone train, get some Cyclotren from JustAddMuscle.com.

He's a sponsor - top notch service and support.

Check him out on the supplement board.

I'll definitely check this out!

 

[Just Add Muscle]

I remember the first 1ad, I had terrible sides on that stuff with minimal gains, very odd. I think the newest stuff is much better. I gained 12 or so lbs of lean mass on havoc alone. I have two bottles of cyclotren sitting here that I'll be cracking open soon too.


Also, for all those saying "get the real deal", that isn't always an option for a lot of people. So when aas arent available what do you do? Go legal and give the stuff from JustAddMuscle a shot. I said Justaddmuscle because these guys are the best I've dealt with as far a customer service, speed, and pricing go.

Thanks bro,I am dying to crack open a bottle of Havoc myself.I am absolutely loving Cyclotren by itself for a summer hard muscle gainer.Im going to finish the bottle I am on and run another one with Havoc in it and up the calories to try to do a one month mini bulk and then go on a cutter.

 

[smoke67]

1 AD--- I ran it two times. Pros, strenghth was through the roof and put on a few pounds Cons, I have never taken anything oral or inj that made me feel as bad as 1 AD did. You could not pay me to take that shit again!!!

 

[swole]

for the record original 1-AD made me lethargic

cyclotren makes me feel energized and aware

 

[Improvise]

I ran CycloTren and Havoc TOGETHER and noticed minimal gains.

I was thrashing myself and eating very clean with above maintenance calories and was disappointed that I didn't feel a single thing and spent $91 on the two products.

Then again, my friend took havoc ALONE and he noticed huge strength gains.

I really think ph's work for some and don't for others. You won't know until you try for yourself.

 

[swole]

I ran CycloTren and Havoc TOGETHER and noticed minimal gains.

I was thrashing myself and eating very clean with above maintenance calories and was disappointed that I didn't feel a single thing and spent $91 on the two products.

Then again, my friend took havoc ALONE and he noticed huge strength gains.

I really think ph's work for some and don't for others. You won't know until you try for yourself.

the same goes for AAS

i've seen them do nothing for quite a few peeps - and they were taking more than i was at the time

 

[KnockedOutFAST]

Some people i know have only taken prohormones and look better and bigger than people i see juicing.

 

[blackhat]

Some people i know have only taken prohormones and look better and bigger than people i see juicing.

Definitely depends on the genetics. My brother has a hard time gaining a great deal of weight while I can gain and lose it very fast. Almost any substance I take for training has a profound effect on me, while it seems to benefit him very little.

Justaddmuscle, did you guys do any clinical trials with Havoc? I'd be interested to see how those turned out..

 

[Nelson Montana]

Patrick Arnold just came out with another supposedly legal version of 1-ad which he says is 75% as effective (although like 3x as expensive).

Just wondering why his original Andro formula never made it to the black market? There is extremely high demand for this product. It's very effective even compared to many oral AAS and its relatively side effect free...

75% more effective than being total garbage? Not very impressive.

 

[Just Add Muscle]

Definitely depends on the genetics. My brother has a hard time gaining a great deal of weight while I can gain and lose it very fast. Almost any substance I take for training has a profound effect on me, while it seems to benefit him very little.

Justaddmuscle, did you guys do any clinical trials with Havoc? I'd be interested to see how those turned out..

None of these products have any clinical trials behind them because most of them get banned too soon for it to be worth doing studies on by retailers.For this reason we have to be guinea pigs our selfs or go by word of mouth from the majority of people that try these products on witch ones are successful and witch are not.There is no big secret on what is actually going on right now with a lot of these products.They are actual AAS not PH.There is no conversion by our organism to make these active ingredients.they already are,just havent been scheduled yet.

 

[muscleup]

LMAO I expected this one.

75% more effective than being total garbage? Not very impressive.

 

[blackhat]

None of these products have any clinical trials behind them because most of them get banned too soon for it to be worth doing studies on by retailers.For this reason we have to be guinea pigs our selfs or go by word of mouth from the majority of people that try these products on witch ones are successful and witch are not.There is no big secret on what is actually going on right now with a lot of these products.They are actual AAS not PH.There is no conversion by our organism to make these active ingredients.they already are,just havent been scheduled yet.

(takes a hit off the tobacco pipe) Mmm.. I see.

 

[galaxy]

For some reason I had good luck with Andro and would like to find some again myself. May have just been coincidence or something totally else, but Id like to at least try again.

 

[Just Add Muscle]

For some reason I had good luck with Andro and would like to find some again myself. May have just been coincidence or something totally else, but Id like to at least try again.

If you liked Andro you will love P-Plex bro.