Once and for ALL - FOOD

[JKurz1]

Ok..this has been beat up more than a red-headed step-child...........so, I come to you to help us settle this for good...........You train in the afternoon and slam your PW shake of glucose and whey about 6:30pm.....you have to crash by 8:30 cause your day starts about 5am....sometimes earlier......so, you have 2 hours (guiess it doesnt matter the time) between you shake and bed........do you STILL consume a decent sized meal, even though you could be potentially asleep in 10 minutes? Or do you just hold off and hope the shake holds you over? If you do eat, would do or would u consume? Going to eat, shower, brush teeth and crash................

 

[Judo Tom]

guess what im gonna say

 

[JKurz1]

I know bro..and you had some solid ideas.....Karma to you big time....just want to see other views........thanks again man.......some people just won't let it settle.........THe best is that some still believe that no carbs after 6pm in the RULE.....what??? Is there 6pm police??????

 

[yomama]

I know bro..and you had some solid ideas.....Karma to you big time....just want to see other views........thanks again man.......some people just won't let it settle.........THe best is that some still believe that no carbs after 6pm in the RULE.....what??? Is there 6pm police??????

It's up to you, if you gain fat easily then just take protein. But me, I could eat a pizza before bedtime and not gain a gram of fat.

 

[c3bodybuilding]

I'd rather eat and not miss out on potential growth, then risk being catabolic for all of those hours. A shake won't hold you over that long.

 

[JKurz1]

SO POST EM UP...........what do you guys consume?

 

[sweed]

after workout i have my post work out shakes... creatine and protein, then about 45-60 minutes later i have a big meal. then i go about eating every 2-3 hours after... but i think your goin to be fine having a meal before bed. just as long as its not sugar

 

[JKurz1]

Ok, now how about some suggestions for all................obviously this would not pertain to those that train early............

 

[sweed]

before bed, why not some chicken/ steak and some lettuce and olive oil

 

[JKurz1]

before bed, why not some chicken/ steak and some lettuce and olive oil

and others say you need the carbs now since you haven't had any but fast digesting since training...........

 

[Slyder190]

jkurz, I'd say experiment and see if another carb/proteinmeal after your PW shake and prior to bed put on too much BF. If so, just get protein only in you.

 

[puddlemonkey]

I eat right before bed. I have to, otherwise I can't sleep. I don't consume a bunch of carbs though.

 

[JKurz1]

I eat right before bed. I have to, otherwise I can't sleep. I don't consume a bunch of carbs though.

what do u have?????/

 

[deltreefitness]

I've tried it both ways. Stop eating 2 hour before bed and also eating right before bed. Usually tuna on one slice of rye w/ hot sauce and some FF CC and fruit.

Why is this in the anabolic forum?

 

[mcr]

I train first thing in the morning so this doesn't apply to me. However, if I was forced to train in the evening shortly before bed I would DEFINITELY eat afterwards (even after the shake). I would not go overboard on the carbs though. For example, a decent sized steak, a spoon of flaxseed oil and some veggies would probably work nicely. If bulking I'd probably add some rice (say 40g). In my PWO shake I would have whey, glucose and oats.

 

[Lowest]

I used to train at night, I'd have my shake like you do. Then an hour or so later, usally steak and baked potatoes, or baked french fries for slow carbs. When I'm just maintaining or dieting, it's usually chicken and rice. Oh, and I almost always have milk too, never had a problem with a few extra g's of sugar from lactose.

 

[wutangnomo]

I have for the longest time trained before bed because that's the only time I could fit it in.

I will down my protein/simple carb shake post-workout, shower, then eat a bunch of protein and slow digesting carbs (big meal). If I simply consume protein then hit the sack that does not carry me over at all and I end up waking feeling very depleted in the morning. Another thing I experimented with is taking in protein/good fats before bed. This actually makes me hungrier when I wake up in the morning as though my stomache is eating itself.

 

[RADAR]

My cut off time is 8:00pm since i don't sleep until after midnight.
Basically it boils down to your routine & what you have your body programmed to!

RADAR

 

[got2getripped]

I've tried it both ways. Stop eating 2 hour before bed and also eating right before bed. Usually tuna on one slice of rye w/ hot sauce and some FF CC and fruit.

Why is this in the anabolic forum?

Because nobody seems to ever wanna go into the other forums is my guess. I put a question in the PCT thread and a whole day went by without one response to it and it was still on top.

What about PM protein shakes? I havn't tried any yet but I was thinking about it.

 

[RADAR]

Because nobody seems to ever wanna go into the other forums is my guess. I put a question in the PCT thread and a whole day went by without one response to it and it was still on top.

What about PM protein shakes? I havn't tried any yet but I was thinking about it.

That is what i do an hr or 2 right after the evening meal.

RADAR

 

[JKurz1]

I have for the longest time trained before bed because that's the only time I could fit it in.

I will down my protein/simple carb shake post-workout, shower, then eat a bunch of protein and slow digesting carbs (big meal). If I simply consume protein then hit the sack that does not carry me over at all and I end up waking feeling very depleted in the morning. Another thing I experimented with is taking in protein/good fats before bed. This actually makes me hungrier when I wake up in the morning as though my stomache is eating itself.

what are you stats bro? And how close to bed is this last meal? COnsist of??? Thnx man......

 

[deltreefitness]

What about PM protein shakes? I havn't tried any yet but I was thinking about it.

I've tried that too. Just one scoop, 1/2c skim milk, 1/2c water, tabspn ANPB. I think the original question is bit too personalized though. Everyones metabolism is different.

 

[wutangnomo]

what are you stats bro? And how close to bed is this last meal? COnsist of??? Thnx man......

5'7.5" sitting around 190-195lbs around 10-11% bodyfat natty. That's what I'm usually at but I've slacked from the gym lately so I'm around 185lbs, lower bodyfat though.

After the solid food meal I'll go to bed around 10 minutes later after brushing my teeth. So I'm pretty much hitting the sack immediately after eating. I've tried eating just some solid protein alone (like chicken or eggs) but it goes right through me very quickly. I will wake up starving and nauseous it seems. The first 4-6 hours after a workout are crucial because your body is like a vacuum and sucks everything right up since it's in a depleted state. It's very important to feed your body during this window of opportunity. What I highly suggest is you eat some complex carbs and good protein (yams, oatmeal, chicken, steak, eggs, etc) then go to bed. Before you go to bed make a protein shake and put it right beside your bed. When you wake up in the middle of your sleep drink that shake, which should carry you over for a few hours until you finally wake up to start your day.

BTW, I'm trying to change my schedule around where I workout first thing in the morning upon waking. It's definitely easier and lot more ideal then working out before going to bed.

Hope this helps bro!

 

[JKurz1]

Good stuff man...just so hard not to feel like crap after eating that much.......I'm gonna switch to 1st thing too, now we risk training in a catabolic state, so we need to eat plenty at night.......see, the saga continues.......

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

Ok..this has been beat up more than a red-headed step-child...........so, I come to you to help us settle this for good...........You train in the afternoon and slam your PW shake of glucose and whey about 6:30pm.....you have to crash by 8:30 cause your day starts about 5am....sometimes earlier......so, you have 2 hours (guiess it doesnt matter the time) between you shake and bed........do you STILL consume a decent sized meal, even though you could be potentially asleep in 10 minutes? Or do you just hold off and hope the shake holds you over? If you do eat, would do or would u consume? Going to eat, shower, brush teeth and crash................

I agree with whoever said that it depends on the person. My workouts sometimes don't end until 830pm and I go to bed at about 1130. I have a post workout protein shake with creatine and some rice cakes, then about an hour later , chicken and rice, then at about 1100 I have 55g of glycerlean only

 

[deltreefitness]

Good stuff man...just so hard not to feel like crap after eating that much.......I'm gonna switch to 1st thing too, now we risk training in a catabolic state, so we need to eat plenty at night.......see, the saga continues.......

LOL JKurz. You're putting yourself in a catabolic state with all this stressing!

 

[collegeguyga]

Here is my meal plan and workout... Still refining it.. But seems to work pretty good for me.

5:30 am - Weights
7:00 am - PWO Shake - Protein/ Carbs
8:00 am - eggs 2 or 3 whites
10:30am - Protein shake
12:00 - normal lunch.. protein carbs
3:30pm - protein only shake
6:00pm - Cardio
7:30- 8:00 - High Protein meal ( steak, chicken ) some carbs complex ( brown rice or vegs )
10:00pm - Protein only shake
BED

Taking a shake right before bed has helped me alot. Like everyone has said.. Its going to be different for each person.. This seems to be working for me now.. Ive put on some good LM and losing BF.

Hope this helps a little

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

Here is my meal plan and workout... Still refining it.. But seems to work pretty good for me.

5:30 am - Weights
7:00 am - PWO Shake - Protein/ Carbs
8:00 am - eggs 2 or 3 whites
10:30am - Protein shake
12:00 - normal lunch.. protein carbs
3:30pm - protein only shake
6:00pm - Cardio
7:30- 8:00 - High Protein meal ( steak, chicken ) some carbs complex ( brown rice or vegs )
10:00pm - Protein only shake
BED

Taking a shake right before bed has helped me alot. Like everyone has said.. Its going to be different for each person.. This seems to be working for me now.. Ive put on some good LM and losing BF.

Hope this helps a little

You eat carbs in 3 of your meals...for a total of ?????150g??

 

[alteredgenes]

throw some oats and anpb in a shake right before bed and that should hold you over well.

 

[collegeguyga]

You eat carbs in 3 of your meals...for a total of ?????150g??

I couldnt even tell you..
Its more then 150 G

the shakes I Add carbs too I add CARBO HIT to it..
and my meals with lunch have good carbs

But.. for the most part.. Im try to get lean..so I try to keep my carbs very low.

You think this is bad ?

 

[JKurz1]

throw some oats and anpb in a shake right before bed and that should hold you over well.

Not too worried about being held over.......I just don't want it stored.........guess it all depends on how intense your training was.....

 

[Goldprospector]

Ok..this has been beat up more than a red-headed step-child...........so, I come to you to help us settle this for good...........You train in the afternoon and slam your PW shake of glucose and whey about 6:30pm.....you have to crash by 8:30 cause your day starts about 5am....sometimes earlier......so, you have 2 hours (guiess it doesnt matter the time) between you shake and bed........do you STILL consume a decent sized meal, even though you could be potentially asleep in 10 minutes? Or do you just hold off and hope the shake holds you over? If you do eat, would do or would u consume? Going to eat, shower, brush teeth and crash................

I gain fat easilydue to slow metabolism and low thyroid output, It is a struggle for me to just maintaina certain BF%. I would not eat before bedtime, if I thought I needed anything, I would only use a slow relese PT for the night. But that is me!