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[ceo]

I know that ceo doesn't particularly ascribe much to some or alot of the products sold here at EF because he seems like someone who prefers to hit his genetic limit more naturally. Everyone with solid discipline and who know their bodies really well, can get those results, but there are always people in the world who want to get there a little more quickly. Some want to get there more quickly and do so with steroids, and some want to get there more quickly, but more safely (either legally or for health reasons). As long as we can help people get to their limits more quickly without harming them, then that is why we are here...well...that and make money too (can't lie about that since we all have to eat and try to make a living doing what we enjoy).

Oh, I take my fair share of supps: Gluc/chondr; cissus; nettle root extract; quercetin; bromelain; policosanol; phosphatidlyserine; probiotics; psylluim husk; milk thistle; waxy maize; bcaa's; creatine; glutamine peptides; copper; saw palmetto; multi-vitamin/mineral; fish/flax/olive/grapeseed/barage oils; whey isolate protein of course...

maybe some more too...that's all I can think of off the top of my head.

For the record, I've already told Ross I'd take him up on his offer to send me his products and I will report back with the results.

 

[needtogetaas]

Oh, I take my fair share of supps: Gluc/chondr; cissus; nettle root extract; quercetin; bromelain; policosanol; phosphatidlyserine; probiotics; psylluim husk; milk thistle; waxy maize; bcaa's; creatine; glutamine peptides; copper; saw palmetto; multi-vitamin/mineral; fish/flax/olive/grapeseed/barage oils; whey isolate protein of course...

maybe some more too...that's all I can think of off the top of my head.

For the record, I've already told Ross I'd take him up on his offer to send me his products and I will report back with the results.

You fucking closet sup junky.

 

[Donnie Darko]

Oh, I take my fair share of supps: Gluc/chondr; cissus; nettle root extract; quercetin; bromelain; policosanol; phosphatidlyserine; probiotics; psylluim husk; milk thistle; waxy maize; bcaa's; creatine; glutamine peptides; copper; saw palmetto; multi-vitamin/mineral; fish/flax/olive/grapeseed/barage oils; whey isolate protein of course...

maybe some more too...that's all I can think of off the top of my head.

For the record, I've already told Ross I'd take him up on his offer to send me his products and I will report back with the results.

Holy crap! You're a walking pharmacy! J/K. I know that you mentioned taking alot of herbal supps and multivitamins before. What I was talking about was alot of the things that we sponsors sell.

 

[GUARDIAN]

i could buy a primo cycle with all that

Oh, I take my fair share of supps: Gluc/chondr; cissus; nettle root extract; quercetin; bromelain; policosanol; phosphatidlyserine; probiotics; psylluim husk; milk thistle; waxy maize; bcaa's; creatine; glutamine peptides; copper; saw palmetto; multi-vitamin/mineral; fish/flax/olive/grapeseed/barage oils; whey isolate protein of course...

maybe some more too...that's all I can think of off the top of my head.

For the record, I've already told Ross I'd take him up on his offer to send me his products and I will report back with the results.

 

[DJLegacy2k1]

Sounds almost like my dresser:

Multi/flax/amp02/lipo/rawmcc/eca/phyto-test/cla/endoAmp/toco8/dermacrine/sustain-alpha/Waxy-Maize

Thats JUST MY DRESSER!

-Legacy

 

[needtogetaas]

I got more sups then you can shake a stick at.

 

[ceo]

Holy crap! You're a walking pharmacy! J/K. I know that you mentioned taking alot of herbal supps and multivitamins before. What I was talking about was alot of the things that we sponsors sell.

I've taken Green Tea Extract before too. I don't take it regularly as I don't need to drop fat, and I don't have to work too hard to keep it off. I can keep fat off just fine through diet manipulation, but if I want to get real lean (say I'm going to hit a nice beach on vacation), a little GTE and I'm good to go!

 

[bigdofba]

I got more sups then you can shake a stick at.

It's like a freaking addiction.

 

[samoth]

For those skeptical of Ross's products and claims (and I'm one of 'em), the best arguments would probably come from actually reading the full studies he's posted. Abstracts can be misleading -- especially when studies are done on obese geriactric pygmie monkeys and made to look like they have some awesome effect on normal, healthy humans. Always look at the methodology used; if an abstract doesn't explicitly mention it, it's questionable. Looking at the full articles can reveal much.

The journal a product or chemical is studied in reveals much as well. You will never see small-market supplements (or even Muslcetech, for that matter) tested in big, peer-reviewed biochem journals. Moreover, repeatable studies are also important. Remember, there was a big study done many decades ago that showed steroids to have no effect on muscle gains... problem was, it wasn't repeatable.

Being able to read and extract the pertinent information from a study is a valuable skill, and one of the biggest ways advertisers for every product under the sun -- from cereal to shampoo to dietary supplements -- obfuscate data to make things sound better than they really are.

 

[ceo]

For those skeptical of Ross's products and claims (and I'm one of 'em), the best arguments would probably come from actually reading the full studies he's posted. Abstracts can be misleading -- especially when studies are done on obese geriactric pygmie monkeys and made to look like they have some awesome effect on normal, healthy humans. Always look at the methodology used; if an abstract doesn't explicitly mention it, it's questionable. Looking at the full articles can reveal much.

The journal a product or chemical is studied in reveals much as well. You will never see small-market supplements (or even Muslcetech, for that matter) tested in big, peer-reviewed biochem journals. Moreover, repeatable studies are also important. Remember, there was a big study done many decades ago that showed steroids to have no effect on muscle gains... problem was, it wasn't repeatable.

Being able to read and extract the pertinent information from a study is a valuable skill, and one of the biggest ways advertisers for every product under the sun -- from cereal to shampoo to dietary supplements -- obfuscate data to make things sound better than they really are.

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