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OMG So Confused about Cardio:(

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I generally judge ppls philosophy by thier looks (who doesnt)

Going by that, i was planning on SC's approach to early morning. But then i went to BB,com who is a def inspiration to me (he is a teen like me) and he says mornin cardio burns muscel, and to do HIIT. !!! What do i do for the last time>
 
Different theories on it. It depends on the person. I got pretty shredded up by doing 20 mins of cardio in the morning on an empty stomach, but my friend does HIIT and likes that. With the right diet both philosophies should work out for weight loss.
 
20-30 minutes of cardio 3-4 mornings weekly on an empty stomach is not going to jeopardize your LBM. It will however prevent your body from utilizing recently consumed carbs for energy and encourage it to access stored calories, i.e bodyfat. If, on the other hand, you did 1 hour of intense cardio every morning for a month then you'd probably be risking some muscle, but the degree depends on your bodytype. If you're a ectomorph you'd want to be particularly careful.
 
Doing cardio on an empty stomach you are definitely putting your body in a highly catabolic state. IMO, morning cardio on an empty stomach is highly overrated. I do cardio for its overall health benefits and the fact I don't have to cut my KCal as much when I diet. Your diet and exercise frequency are more important than cardio timing or doing it on an empty stomach.
 
I tried the morning thing for a few weeks. I noticed absolutely no difference (except that I felt like I was burning more muscle). I usually do cardio minimum 2hrs. after a meal. YMMV.
 
Remember this:

A.M. cardio (or cardio in any relatively fasted state) is NOT catabolic, provided you perform "LIPOLYSIS" cardio, aimed to burn fat at the correct heart-rate, not too intense to burn glycogen/lean mass, and provided one knows how to eat CORRECTLY the other 23 hours or so during the day. Only then would anyone have an issue.

Again, I do this myself, yes, but I also assist and have assisted 1000's with the same approach, and 4 years later my approaches are being recognized in on-line magazines and news-stand publications.

Bottom line: To each his own, find what works for you. However, to say a.m. cardio is "catabolic" is a slippery-slope blanket statement, AT BEST.

~SC~
 
Written by: Tom_Venuto


When is the best time of day to do your aerobic exercise? The answer is any time! The most important thing is that you just do it. Continuous cardiovascular exercise, such as walking, jogging, stairclimbing, or cycling, sustained for at least 30 minutes, will burn body fat no matter when you do it.

However, if you want to get the maximum benefits possible from every minute you invest in your workouts, then you should consider getting up early and doing cardio before you eat your first meal - even if you're not a "morning person." Early morning aerobic exercise on an empty stomach has three major advantages over exercising later in the day:

Early in the morning before you eat, your levels of muscle and liver glycogen (stored carbohydrate) are low. If you eat dinner at 7 p.m and you eat breakfast at 7 a.m., that's 12 hours without food. During this 12-hour overnight fast, your levels of glycogen slowly decline to provide glucose for various bodily functions that go on even while you sleep. As a result, you wake up in the morning with depleted glycogen and lower blood sugar - the optimum environment for burning fat instead of carbohydrate.

How much more fat you'll burn is uncertain, but some studies have suggested that up to 300% more fat is burned when cardio is done in a fasted, glycogen-depleted state. So how exactly does this work? It's quite simple, really. Carbohydrate (glycogen) is your body's primary and preferred energy source. When your primary fuel source is in short supply, this forces your body to tap into its secondary or reserve energy source; body fat. If you do cardio immediately after eating a meal, you'll still burn fat, but you'll burn less of it because you'll be burning off the carbohydrates you ate first.

You always burn a combination of fat and carbohydrate for fuel, but depending on when you exercise, you can burn a greater proportion of fat relative to carbohydrate. If doing cardio first thing in the morning is not an option for you, then the second best time to do it would be immediately after weight training. Lifting weights is anaerobic (carbohydrate-burning) by nature, and therefore depletes muscle glycogen. That's why a post lifting cardio session has a similar effect as morning cardio on an empty stomach.

The second benefit you'll get from early morning cardio sessions is what I call the "afterburn" effect. When you do a cardio session in the morning, you not only burn fat during the session, but you also continue to burn fat at an accelerated rate after the workout. Why? Because an intense session of cardiovascular exercise can keep your metabolism elevated for hours after the session is over. If you do cardio at night, you will still burn fat during the session, so you definitely benefit from it. However, nighttime cardio fails to take advantage of the "afterburn" effect because your metabolism drops like a ton of bricks as soon as you go to sleep. While you sleep, your metabolic rate is slower than any other time of the day.

Burning more fat isn't the only reason you should do your cardio early. The third benefit of morning workouts is the "rush" and feeling of accomplishment that stays with you all day long after an invigorating workout. Exercise can become a pleasant and enjoyable experience, but the more difficult or challenging it is for you, the more important it is to get it out of the way early. When you put off any task you consider unpleasant, it hangs over you all day long, leaving you with a feeling of guilt, stress and incompleteness (not to mention that you are more likely to "blow off" an evening workout if you are tired from a long day at work or if your pals try to persuade you to join them at the pub for happy hour.)

You might find it hard to wake up early in the morning and get motivated to workout. But think back for a moment to a time in your life when you tackled a difficult task and you finished it. Didn't you feel great afterwards? Completing any task, especially a physically challenging one, gives you a "buzz." When the task is exercise, the buzz is physiological and psychological. Physiologically, exercise releases endorphins in your body.

Endorphins are opiate-like hormones hundreds of times more powerful than the strongest morphine. Endorphins create a natural "high" that makes you feel positively euphoric! Endorphins reduce stress, improve your mood, increase circulation and relieve pain. The "high" is partly psychological too. Getting up early and successfully achieving a small goal kick starts your day and gives you feelings of completion, satisfaction and accomplishment. For the rest of the day you feel happy and you feel less stress knowing that the most difficult part of the day is behind you.

So, you say you're not a morning person? Take heart; neither am I. I can sleep in like you wouldn't believe! But I get up anyway because I know the effort is worth the results. When I have a bodybuilding goal that I am clearly focused on, such as reaching 4% or 5% body fat for a competition, I'm on my Stairmaster for 45 minutes every morning at the crack of dawn without fail. Sure it's a challenge at first, but you know what? After a few short weeks, It's no longer a chore and I'm "in the groove" - and you will be too. Just try it.

Make a commitment to yourself to do it for just 21 days. Once those 21 days have gone by, you'll already be leaner and you'll be on your way to making morning workouts a habit that's as natural as brushing your teeth or taking a shower. Once you start getting used to feeling that buzz, you'll become "positively addicted" to it. The more you do it, the more you'll want to do it. Before you know it, early morning cardio will your new habit; you'll be leaner, your metabolism will be faster and you'll feel fantastic all day long!
 
ok that settles it. I did a run, going moderate speed for 40 min, and did about 4 miles. Felt good, and im glad to get it out of the way. Too bad i slept at 230 this morning and went running at 6:(
 
If you're going to do Am cardio I would at least take some BCAA's and glutamine peptides because low intensity cardio does cause amino acid oxidation. Combine that with the fact you're performing the exercise when your cortisol levels are highest, in the AM and after a fast. The mere fact fasted cardio dramatically increases fat burning indicates the catabolic hormones are elevated and you're suffering catabolism. Avoiding this is the whole reason bodybuilders eat every two to three hours. Exercise induced catabolism is the same reason I consume of BCAA, glutamine peptide and dextrose shake during my workout. It gives a noticable improvement in recovery and motivation during the workout. However, if AM cardio works better for you then go ahead, you can't argue with results.
 
JavaGuru said:
If you're going to do Am cardio I would at least take some BCAA's and glutamine peptides because low intensity cardio does cause amino acid oxidation. Combine that with the fact you're performing the exercise when your cortisol levels are highest, in the AM and after a fast. The mere fact fasted cardio dramatically increases fat burning indicates the catabolic hormones are elevated and you're suffering catabolism. Avoiding this is the whole reason bodybuilders eat every two to three hours. Exercise induced catabolism is the same reason I consume of BCAA, glutamine peptide and dextrose shake during my workout. It gives a noticable improvement in recovery and motivation during the workout. However, if AM cardio works better for you then go ahead, you can't argue with results.
It's unecessary if done CORRECTLY and works like no other..............I've taught a few the correct way and have seen the fat melt off.......do they lose some strength? VERY minimal, if any...............
 
just do it! try cardio and HITT, morn or evening, same days and other days, empty stomach, post carbs, etc.

test it out, and see how it works for YOU. we are all too different.
 
yeah, i think it comes down to me. I just did cradio this morning and liked the pace and the fact that my day does not evolve around the track. So i will report if i lose fat, blah blah blah. BTW, i take no fat burning crap. Just whey/creatine and im cutting.
 
anya said:
20-30 minutes of cardio 3-4 mornings weekly on an empty stomach is not going to jeopardize your LBM. It will however prevent your body from utilizing recently consumed carbs for energy and encourage it to access stored calories, i.e bodyfat. If, on the other hand, you did 1 hour of intense cardio every morning for a month then you'd probably be risking some muscle, but the degree depends on your bodytype. If you're a ectomorph you'd want to be particularly careful.


WHy would the body not burn lbm onthe ON days of morning cardio? Its not like its the sum of all cardio, its more time specific. Ie. Do cardio now, use bodyfat fuel now. SO I think doing cardio 3 over 7 days a week aint gonna make it from beneficialt to negative.
 
Why would it burn LBM if you are doing low intensity, low impact cardio that does nothing but raise your heart rate? We aren't talking about going for a 45 minute run (or even necessarily a walk) here, we're talking about cycling, rowing, whatever you like as long as its low impact.
 
i know how you feel. i dont want to lose muscle mass so i just run once a week and i also play alot of hockey. plus my 4 days of lifting. it works great for me,
 
Interesting.....

http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do;jsessionid=F06D5992796D43A92CFB157C66F9C06D.ba13?id=483905

Today's nutrition tip comes from John Berardi:


Pre-Exercise Protein and Carbs to BURN FAT!

Pre-, during, and post-exercise nutritional intake is critical for improving protein status and glycogen synthesis, but a lot of people still fear that the ingestion of protein and carbs during these times will decrease fat burning.

They’re wrong!

Data I’ve collected during my doctoral tenure has demonstrated that even in the presence of a relatively high carbohydrate intake (and large insulin response), the addition of protein to a carb meal can increase fat burning during exercise via glucagon-stimulated lipolysis (fat breakdown). That’s right, glucagon may overpower insulin during exercise, thus increasing the amount of fat burned.

In the study by Rowlands and Hopkins, subjects eating about 120g of carbohydrate and 85g of protein burned more fat during exercise than they did when exercising in a fasted state! The protein and carb group also burned more fat than the group ingesting 15g carbs, 28g protein, and 112g fat and the group ingesting 258g carbs, 28g protein, and 6g fat.

So it looks like a well-designed pre-, during, and post-exercise meal will not only improve protein status and glycogen resynthesis, but it may actually increase fat burning to get you bigger and leaner!
 
This is why I am so angry at the new work hours i have to keep. With my commute i have no time to do cardio any more now that i have to be at work earlier.

So instead i have to do it in the evenings. I've decided on some high intensity stuff to help burn all the calories i injested during the day.

In the mornings i was doing the light hill climb/walk on the tread and some elyptical. Now i do hard elyptical and jogging/biking.
 
JavaGuru said:
So it looks like a well-designed pre-, during, and post-exercise meal will not only improve protein status and glycogen resynthesis, but it may actually increase fat burning to get you bigger and leaner!

"during"? i'm going to invent a stairclimber with hotplates on it.
 
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