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i'm just saying that's a bold comparison to make Nelson....

that's like saying "anavar fucks your lipids up, it's like eating 10 egg yolks 6 times a day", I mean it's one thing to say it has an effect on your cholesterol, but what's the point of sugar coating your point with an unfactual comparison? For shock value?

it's info like this that has idiots running around making dumb claims
 
Totally understand your points Nelson.

I was unaware that we had that many board members pass away. What were the causes?

One, seemingly from heart failure due to clen use. Another had an enlarged heart. Uncertain of the others.
 
One, seemingly from heart failure due to clen use. Another had an enlarged heart. Uncertain of the others.

heart failure from clen? YIKES

Were there any symptoms or signs before hand? Are you talking about the guy that was a friend of a member or an actual member?

I'm curious because clen is the one thing that I worry about myself taking.
 
heart failure from clen? YIKES

Were there any symptoms or signs before hand? Are you talking about the guy that was a friend of a member or an actual member?

I'm curious because clen is the one thing that I worry about myself taking.

A very good member here.
 
was he taking a large dose?

I'm not sure. I know he was very experienced with it and would push the limits and lengths of use. Who knows what genetic issues may have contributed to it but I don't think anyone here thought of his as reckless. Serves as a reminder and a warning...
 
I'm not sure. I know he was very experienced with it and would push the limits and lengths of use. Who knows what genetic issues may have contributed to it but I don't think anyone here thought of his as reckless. Serves as a reminder and a warning...

for real. I typically do runs at 120mcg for 3 weeks max... But it still has always scared me. For me sides are never bad, but you just never know.
 
for real. I typically do runs at 120mcg for 3 weeks max... But it still has always scared me. For me sides are never bad, but you just never know.


one bor to another, stop the clen. it is not worth the damage to the cardiovascular system. its garbage and the gains you are making you could make naturally with harder/smarter work. not worth it.
 
one bor to another, stop the clen. it is not worth the damage to the cardiovascular system. its garbage and the gains you are making you could make naturally with harder/smarter work. not worth it.

I'm going to give that sentiment very serious consideration once I finish up this run, I've got 5 days left. The thing is that my diet/cardio/training is absolutely perfect already. I like the way I feel on ECA better, but clen really does give me a strong boost over ECA and even Lipoflame/Lipostim all else equal. After this run, I'm taking 14 days of stimulants and I'll come back with the new liposhred stack and maybe never go back to clen
 
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