off season cycle

[bigorse]

so long story short, injured my wrist and will need surgery now. it has cut my last 2 cycles short at the 6 and 8 week mark so, so far my off season has been very unproductive and frankly a waste other than learning my body a little bit.
when back training (could be 3-6months from now) i was planning the following cycle. its more aggresive than what i normally run so would like some advide on my lay out.

stats
im on hrt so no pct needed
5' 8
got to 227lbs at 15% still had abs on last cycle.
currently sitting around 210 12-3%
ive used
dbol
test e
sust
test p
methylstenbolone
superdrol
and other non aas peds.

was thinking:

1-20 200eq eod
1-20 125 sust eod
8-20 tren e 100 eod
1-4 anadrol 50, 100, 100, 100
0.25 adex eod

will give blood half way through and at the end.
get blood tests done e2-3 months and everything is always in check except alt gets slighly elevated sometimes but the doctor is not the slightest concerned.

want to stay fairly lean so i can spend more time growing and less time prepping seems ive been injured so long. will probably shrink down to like 185-190 10% i lose size quick when not training. my diet is very good and training is what i enjoy so thats always fine.

cheers guys.

 

[bigorse]

oh and i plan on training on hrt for a while before getting back on a blast. try put on what i can naturally as muscle memory should allow me to put a fair bit of size back on quickly without any peds.

would aim to be about 220-225 12-13% by the end

 

[RADAR]

Man! Anytime you get hurt it seems to throw everything out of wack, personally if it was me i would probably save the Tren for later due to the injury factor, but i'm alot older.Those A bombs will load you up with water but its only temporany.good luck with the cycle and healing my friend.

 

[bigorse]

Man! Anytime you get hurt it seems to throw everything out of wack, personally if it was me i would probably save the Tren for later due to the injury factor, but i'm alot older.Those A bombs will load you up with water but its only temporany.good luck with the cycle and healing my friend.

im planning this cycle for anywhere from 6-9 months down the road. are you against tren because of the stregth increase that come with it?

im already fairly strong with most movements.
can squat 530lbs for 6-8
deadlift 530lbs for 1
dumbbell bench 110s 8-10

appreciate you advice. you older guys are great around here! keep us younger ones from getting carried away and doing way more than what is needed. appreciate it.

 

[RADAR]

im planning this cycle for anywhere from 6-9 months down the road. are you against tren because of the stregth increase that come with it?

im already fairly strong with most movements.
can squat 530lbs for 6-8
deadlift 530lbs for 1
dumbbell bench 110s 8-10

appreciate you advice. you older guys are great around here! keep us younger ones from getting carried away and doing way more than what is needed. appreciate it.

I'm not really against Tren, like i've said i'm older 63 So Recovery makes it a little hard due to that Reason, other than that Tren ace dosed at 150mg mon & thurs makes me grow like a weed.

 

[bigorse]

I'm not really against Tren, like i've said i'm older 63 So Recovery makes it a little hard due to that Reason, other than that Tren ace dosed at 150mg mon & thurs makes me grow like a weed.

got ya. but are you reccomendations for me not to use tren because of the increase in strength not being great for someone recently injured?

 

[EZ_E]

I've been a big fan or tren ace for a long time....and recently became a fan of EQ.

Running them together @ some point is on my radar.

 

[bigorse]

i do have 3 vials of tren a on me but was thinking of using enth for this cycle and saving my ace for when i prep.

i know you are a fan of lower doses but what are your thoughts with my doses and lay out?

 

[j_oel]

so long story short, injured my wrist and will need surgery now. it has cut my last 2 cycles short at the 6 and 8 week mark so, so far my off season has been very unproductive and frankly a waste other than learning my body a little bit.
when back training (could be 3-6months from now) i was planning the following cycle. its more aggresive than what i normally run so would like some advide on my lay out.

stats
im on hrt so no pct needed
5' 8
got to 227lbs at 15% still had abs on last cycle.
currently sitting around 210 12-3%
ive used
dbol
test e
sust
test p
methylstenbolone
superdrol
and other non aas peds.

was thinking:

1-20 200eq eod
1-20 125 sust eod
8-20 tren e 100 eod
1-4 anadrol 50, 100, 100, 100
0.25 adex eod

will give blood half way through and at the end.
get blood tests done e2-3 months and everything is always in check except alt gets slighly elevated sometimes but the doctor is not the slightest concerned.

want to stay fairly lean so i can spend more time growing and less time prepping seems ive been injured so long. will probably shrink down to like 185-190 10% i lose size quick when not training. my diet is very good and training is what i enjoy so thats always fine.

cheers guys.

This looks pretty good. I've read up and people day eq with either tren e or a produces amazing results along with an oral bulker. I'm back on hrt now to and will be till feb next year and running something similar but little different:

Weeks 1-20:
Test E 125mgs eod
Eq 200mgs eod
Weeks 1-10:
Tren Hex 125mgs eod (very good source for this)
Weeks 1-4 and 16-20:
Dbol 30mgs wd

All with 0.5mgs of adex eod and prami on hand incase of prolactin issues (not to be expected though$

 

[bigorse]

This looks pretty good. I've read up and people day eq with either tren e or a produces amazing results along with an oral bulker. I'm back on hrt now to and will be till feb next year and running something similar but little different:

Weeks 1-20:
Test E 125mgs eod
Eq 200mgs eod
Weeks 1-10:
Tren Hex 125mgs eod (very good source for this)
Weeks 1-4 and 16-20:
Dbol 30mgs wd

All with 0.5mgs of adex eod and prami on hand incase of prolactin issues (not to be expected though$

looks good, tren hex is hard to find out here so lucky you. would love to find some tren base!

 

[j_oel]

looks good, tren hex is hard to find out here so lucky you. would love to find some tren base!

Pm me if u want it's an Aussie source. I had a friend use the exact same lab tren hex and described it felt twice as powerful as e or a

 

[RADAR]

got ya. but are you reccomendations for me not to use tren because of the increase in strength not being great for someone recently injured?

You will have to listen to your body however not letting your ego get the best of you in the gym is a good way to avoid getting injured.

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

I think in honesty if you want to run something a bit safer... Run npp or deca.... Get the joint relief sides n some size... As long as diet is in check u won't gain a bunch of excess water.... Might be a safer option or maybe increase your test a bit and run high test n eq....

1200-1250mg test
1000 mg eq

 

[bigorse]

I think in honesty if you want to run something a bit safer... Run npp or deca.... Get the joint relief sides n some size... As long as diet is in check u won't gain a bunch of excess water.... Might be a safer option or maybe increase your test a bit and run high test n eq....

1200-1250mg test
1000 mg eq

just got off deca that was faked with test so not too keen. other thing with eq was appetite help. when im up around 230 ish. 5-6000 calories are maintenance and i really struggle yo continue gaining.

why do you feel my doses are to low? and i assume also not a fan of the tren?

as for radar, ego is in check. i have never actually been injured training at the gym. this accident occured outside.

 

[bigorse]

other thing is dose wise this will be the most gear ive run so going to over 2g would be a big jump. just want to know your reason. most gear ive ever run was around 1g and that was just a mix of test e and test p. plus orals and suspension on top but i dont count them in my weekly aas dose.

 

[j_oel]

I think in honesty if you want to run something a bit safer... Run npp or deca.... Get the joint relief sides n some size... As long as diet is in check u won't gain a bunch of excess water.... Might be a safer option or maybe increase your test a bit and run high test n eq....

1200-1250mg test
1000 mg eq

For me deca is dirty...lots of unwanted bloat I gotta deal with even with a clean diet and the notorious deca dick was a problem with me even on equal amounts of test and prami.

And there's no need for him to run those kind of dosages. More is not always better and you up things accordingly to your body's tolerance to continue getting a proper effect from it...no need to jump the gun and go straight to something like that, in my opinion anyway his dosages and protocol is perfect

 

[bigorse]

For me deca is dirty...lots of unwanted bloat I gotta deal with even with a clean diet and the notorious deca dick was a problem with me even on equal amounts of test and prami.

And there's no need for him to run those kind of dosages. More is not always better and you up things accordingly to your body's tolerance to continue getting a proper effect from it...no need to jump the gun and go straight to something like that, in my opinion anyway his dosages and protocol is perfect

i think my doses are quite high as is. but i know some people get significantly better results on higher doses so im still willing to see his thoughts. otherwise il probs go with my out line.

i dont mind bloat, doesnt phase me in the slightest. makes me strong and i dont care how i look when im off season.