Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below 
chris302001
Banned
What are your thoughts?
(I say no fucking way)
(I say no fucking way)
Obesity as a disability
- Thread starter chris302001
- Start date
calveless wonder
New member
i say obesity as a felony
lol guilty as charged officer
calveless wonder
New member
is this some sort of roleplay?
Because normally i'd just assume you're blaque or messican and taser you
chris302001
Banned
lolololol!
Well I used to think like ya'll but this could be the case for some. There was a 12 year old here that was to be turned over to the DSS due to his obesity. He truely had a serious health problem. He was gaining a 1/2 pound of weight each day. His mother took him against the courts wishes and they found them about 1000 miles away. Technically she put her sons life in danger.
chris302001
Banned
that's not a disability though... You might as well say the same about every kid who's parents smoke.
No the courts ordered him to be turned over because he was going to die at that rate. He didn't have a choice in the matter of him being overweight.
chris302001
Banned
Is child abuse a disability?
mrplunkey
New member
Ever see a middle aged obese guy try to wedge himself into a subcompact car?
Are you trying to tell us you've got "more cushin' for the pushin'"?
PICK3
New member
Are you trying to tell us you've got "more cushin' for the pushin'"?
I could beat up the guy in your avi
mrplunkey
New member
I don't know... a slap-fight like that could easily go either way.
canadianhitman
Well-known member
Hell no it's not a disability.
In fact, if Komrade Obama forces his universal healthcare through, it should be a disqualifier from being covered if you don't report for medically supervised weightloss and pass the program.
In fact, if Komrade Obama forces his universal healthcare through, it should be a disqualifier from being covered if you don't report for medically supervised weightloss and pass the program.
U dickhead. It wasn't an issue of child abuse. H physically had something wrong glandular wise. She wasn't seeing to his health like the courts said to and they took charge. Adding on 1/2 pound per day is more than just an eating disorder.
chris302001
Banned
She wasnt doing the things that a "normal" person would do to ensure the health of her child.... Would not feeding your kid be the same situation? I'd say not feeding your kid is abuse.
In any case, this case isn't typical obesity, and I hesitantly loosen my stance on this individual case if it were an actual medical condition.
But ask any 5'2 350lb fuck and they will tell you they have a glad issue.....
redsamurai
Banned
I don't know about disability, but my thoughts on the subject are changing somewhat given the scientific research that's come out on why people overeat. There was a piece on just this subject on the news tonight. What sceintists have found is that these overweight people have developed neural pathways in their brain that override the bodies natural "I'm full" response. And how did they get that way? Well apparently the food industry, not "just" fast food, has been tinkering with the ratio's of salt,fat and sugar. If you achieve the proper ratio you can apparently iduce these neural chemical response's which in effect create an addiction. So just eating this shit "one time" can hit the brain just right to establish these pathways that are as difficult to break in some cases as severe heroin or cocaine addiction. And then of course we here at EF are all fully aware of the lack of nutrional value of this crap. There is no proper insulin response to this food anymore so it all get's stored as fat, and the person cannot stop eating.
It would be one thing if this was just relegated to fast food........but apparently this sort of thing is prevelant also in normal restaurants. Who apparently get most of their ingredients from very similiar if not "THE EXACT" sources that fast food does.
And they make sure we're exposed to this early on. Like almost all of the food found in high schools can be tracked back to pepsi co....as a subsidiary. All the "un-nutritional" food leads back to a few centralized sources. Of course it's "cheap", that's why restaurants want it. It's literally depriving our brains of proper function.
It would be one thing if this was just relegated to fast food........but apparently this sort of thing is prevelant also in normal restaurants. Who apparently get most of their ingredients from very similiar if not "THE EXACT" sources that fast food does.
And they make sure we're exposed to this early on. Like almost all of the food found in high schools can be tracked back to pepsi co....as a subsidiary. All the "un-nutritional" food leads back to a few centralized sources. Of course it's "cheap", that's why restaurants want it. It's literally depriving our brains of proper function.
chris302001
Banned
How about people with COPD who smoked themselves into oblivion? They are most definately physically limited in a way that affects their daily life activites, however they did it themselves. What say you?
redsamurai
Banned
well, smoking is limited to 18+ years old and we've known about the dangers now for a long time. So maybe they should make fast food 21 and over??
chris302001
Banned
yes, and people with copd secondary to tobacco abuse can collect disability. Is that fair?
redsamurai
Banned
what's copd again?
PICK3
New member
chris302001
Banned
chronic obstructive pulmonary disorder
Worldwide, COPD ranked sixth as the cause of death in 1990. It is projected to be the third leading cause of death worldwide by 2020 due to an increase in smoking rates and demographic changes in many countries.[2] COPD is the 4th leading cause of death in the U.S., and the economic burden of COPD in the U.S. in 2007 was $42.6 billion in health care costs and lost productivity.[4][5]
**wiki
redsamurai
Banned
chris302001
Banned
No, but the etiology of COPD from smoking in developed countries is about 90%
chris302001
Banned
I phrased that wrong but u know what I mean.
jackangel
New member
I think it should be mandatory. Fucking required. I want every man, woman, and child in this country to be pushing maximum density as soon as fucking-A possible.
The next time you think about broccoli, or spinach, just tell your mind to shut the fuck up and grab a pop-tart instead. There's absolutely no reason why Americans
should fit through doorways easily. It's not necessary. Just like not eating. Not eating is not necessary. Yes, that's right. Therefore, get a spoon lardass, and
dig into some butter.
Wash it down with some oil. That's right. You love that fucking grease all over your face.
One day, you will all be immense. Puddlemonkey will no longer stand out in a crowd. Smurfy will call for dietary moderation. Pick3 and rnch will be so large they can
never actually come out of that closet.
But I, I will be thin and shall outrun every one of you fat fucking buttdraggers.
The next time you think about broccoli, or spinach, just tell your mind to shut the fuck up and grab a pop-tart instead. There's absolutely no reason why Americans
should fit through doorways easily. It's not necessary. Just like not eating. Not eating is not necessary. Yes, that's right. Therefore, get a spoon lardass, and
dig into some butter.
Wash it down with some oil. That's right. You love that fucking grease all over your face.
One day, you will all be immense. Puddlemonkey will no longer stand out in a crowd. Smurfy will call for dietary moderation. Pick3 and rnch will be so large they can
never actually come out of that closet.
But I, I will be thin and shall outrun every one of you fat fucking buttdraggers.
stosstruppe
Well-known member
Obese people should be co-erced to lose weight; next to bloated levels of bureaucratic management / administration the British NHS is struggling with obesity-related diseases / health problems.
Bikini Mod
New member
Being obese IS dibilatating, without question. But I don't see how obesity is a disability.
Did that make no sense?
Did that make no sense?
Razorguns
Well-known member
Douchebag internet people.
There's a big difference between:
Overweight
Fat
Obese
MORBID OBESITY WHO WILL BE DEAD WITHIN 5 YEARS.
The last part is the guy who's 500lbs, can't get out of bed, shits in his diapers, has zero % of getting a job, and without govt help and family feeding and taking care of him -- he will die. Like 0.01% of disability claimants.
And last time I checked, society can't dictate who lives or dies except in criminal cases. So government has no choice but to declare disability. Oh and if you make you smartasses feel better, 1 month of the war in iraq is MORE money than disability checks to obese people for 10 years. Or 2 hours of bailouts of bankers. If you think you can get disability by getting fat - feel free to try applying and getting approved. Let's see how far you can get.
r
There's a big difference between:
Overweight
Fat
Obese
MORBID OBESITY WHO WILL BE DEAD WITHIN 5 YEARS.
The last part is the guy who's 500lbs, can't get out of bed, shits in his diapers, has zero % of getting a job, and without govt help and family feeding and taking care of him -- he will die. Like 0.01% of disability claimants.
And last time I checked, society can't dictate who lives or dies except in criminal cases. So government has no choice but to declare disability. Oh and if you make you smartasses feel better, 1 month of the war in iraq is MORE money than disability checks to obese people for 10 years. Or 2 hours of bailouts of bankers. If you think you can get disability by getting fat - feel free to try applying and getting approved. Let's see how far you can get.
r
Not everybody who has COPD smoked themselves into that condition or exposed themselves willingly; while people who are obese did usually eat themselves into that condition, sometimes there's more to it than just feeding their face.
And there are diseases (Prader Willi comes to mind, but I bet that's not the only one) and even medications that screw your weight up, badly. I've seen some truly awful things happen to people's weight when they go on antiseizure medication or long term steroids.
Frankly, IMHO, if you're morbidly obese something is not right in your head. So if you're going to deny morbidly obese people SSD then you have to consider denying it to other people who have mental problems.
And there are diseases (Prader Willi comes to mind, but I bet that's not the only one) and even medications that screw your weight up, badly. I've seen some truly awful things happen to people's weight when they go on antiseizure medication or long term steroids.
Frankly, IMHO, if you're morbidly obese something is not right in your head. So if you're going to deny morbidly obese people SSD then you have to consider denying it to other people who have mental problems.
ponyfitness
New member
Just another way for people to blame their mental weakness on something else. "Oh, my glands are bad." no, you eat too much. "Oh, I can't exercise because I have bad knees." no, you are just lazy.
These people caused their own disability. It wasn't anyone else's fault (except when they are kids - then the parents are to blame). If I cut off my own arm or leg, can I claim disability? Yes. But just like these fatties I would be looked upon as sad and stupid.
My solution: sure, give them disability. With a time line. Every month you get your check - however, you have to weigh in every month to prove that you are making an effort to lose weight and GET OFF of disability. If you don't lose 4-6 pounds, check doesn't come. Same as people on unemployment that are required to be looking for jobs to collect their money.
Also, stigmatize them - make sure everyone knows that they are so lazy they have to let the government pay them because they are too fat.
I have no patience for this crap.
These people caused their own disability. It wasn't anyone else's fault (except when they are kids - then the parents are to blame). If I cut off my own arm or leg, can I claim disability? Yes. But just like these fatties I would be looked upon as sad and stupid.
My solution: sure, give them disability. With a time line. Every month you get your check - however, you have to weigh in every month to prove that you are making an effort to lose weight and GET OFF of disability. If you don't lose 4-6 pounds, check doesn't come. Same as people on unemployment that are required to be looking for jobs to collect their money.
Also, stigmatize them - make sure everyone knows that they are so lazy they have to let the government pay them because they are too fat.
I have no patience for this crap.
Razorguns
Well-known member
fat .. people .. don't .. get .. disability.
Here: How We Decide If You Are Disabled (Step 4 and Step 5)
While you're at it, why don't you go after people that get 'injured' in car accidents/work and then collect state paychecks while surfing at the beach.
Or illegal aliens collecting welfare for their 5 kids while working under the table for years. Or people collecting social security for their dead relatives. Or bankers gettign $12 TRILLION for fucking up the economy.
That's okay - since Russia/China today announced they will start trading in rubles and not US dollars - you bitches are gonna have far far bigger problems very soon than 'fat people getting disability checks'.
r
Take this as I'm saying it. You should fall to your knees and thank GOD (or whatever) every single day of your life that you don't live in pain and your health is good. Because sooner or later, if you live long enough, gravity and natural erosion will probably show you just how much chronic pain can wear you down.
redsamurai
Banned
and therin lies the rub. If you were born into a middle or lower middle class family.......chances are the only food your family could afford most of the time was of the fast food or similiar variety. I've changed my opinion on this subject now that I've learned just how malicious this industry is. It seems they learned from the tobacco industry on how to manipulate their product to "specifically" cause an addiction. If you were given a shot of heroin as a child and then ended up being a heroin addict as an adult, would that surprise you? No......you'd be like fuck, I was given this shit as a kid when I didn't know what the fuck it was and what it would do to me later on in life. It seems that this food is the exact same way. So while I may not be apt to officially declare obsestiy a "disability" warranting a gubment check...........something has to be done about it that takes into the consideration that a legion of people have been raised on utter shit nutrition that they could do nothing about and their bodies will not likely come around on their own. These people can't just "hit the gym" either. They're joints and ligaments are not built for the kind of pounding that would be necessary to fix all those years of shit. Honestly the only thing is forced fasting. They would probably feel like they're dieing. But fasting is the only way to get their biological mechanisms to "reset".
Similar threads
