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Oak desperatly needs advice before i do something dumb

theoak01

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here is the big problem,my girls dad smacks her around and i cant handle this at all,the latest incident was tonight after she dropped me off and went home from the gym and i gave her protein powder to have,well her mom got into a big arguement about how i know shit about nutrition(now this coming from a 200lb 5'2 women) and then she kept questioning and insulting me,and my girl stood up for me and her mom started yelling and her dad smacking her in the head a few times,now right now i could kill the man,and i havent ever liked her parents since we have been going out,i really need sound advice before im in the pokey over this coward who calls himself a man

any advice which is serious is greatly appreciated
 
i know but she is terrified of the man and i feel helpless,although at this moment im planning something ,im just looking for a educated decision on the subject so i dont end up in cuffs
 
How old is she?? Can she move out? That is just awful.

I would find her a new place to live. NO one deserves that abuse. Been there done that, don't want the t-shirt.

My advice is she has to leave..

:mad: :mad: :mad:
 
for the most part she is staying because they are going to pay for university,she turns 18 in june,and the rest of her family which she loves would disown her
 
Well, try and support her emotionally until she goes to school.. If I were her, I would go to school Fall, Spring and Summer sessions until I graduated. That way she could stay at school:)
 
Don't piss in other people's lawns.

You'd be best advised to stay out of this, unless you are willing to do time or die, depending on the man's mental state.
 
she still has a year of high school left after this,and i have been supporting but its killing me and ill do something ill regret i know it,and ill be gone all summer at soldiers qualifacation course which isnt going to be good and in feb im going reg forces,i dunno what ill do
 
Satanic Goatslayer said:
Don't piss in other people's lawns.

You'd be best advised to stay out of this, unless you are willing to do time or die, depending on the man's mental state.

time i can do,i will not die because he is not nuts he is just a pussy who cant hit a man
 
it sounds like her family is a springer episode in the works.

if i were you i would confront him on syndicated tv.

the episode would be:

"My girls pa smacks her, and i want to smack him, but there isn't room in my doublewide for her neither.":D

just fuckin with ya
 
How old are ya man? Get the slob to hit you first, then it will be all over, just take it to the street. Shit like thats uncool as hell. He needs to be bitch smacked. Hell, worried of going to jail, get someone else to do it while you have an alibi.
 
im 17 but i can hold my own in a fight,i boxed with 20 year olds at the age of 13 so thats not a problem

and yes i want to report it but im scared for her sisters as they are young and i refuse to fuck up the life of young childern when it is not needed
 
you should shut up and not do anything.

in 3 weeks when you two are broken up will you give her food and shelter? If he can hit her, he can easily kick her ass out because her dumb 17 year old boyfriend put his nose where it didn't belong.

if you absolutely want to do something, talk to HER about filling a report HERSELF, because when you two are through you might have done more harm than good by sticking your face up in everyone else business.
 
Ok. If you get in a fight with him, over her, (or threaten him), it is very very unlikely that he will stop - he will continue to hit her and even do so to "get revenge" on you. DO NOT confront him - what, you think you'll slap him around a bit or threaten him and he'll suddenly stop hitting her? Hell no, it's going to continue.

The only possible solution is to contact the authorities. She is underage, and hitting her is child abuse. He doesn't hit her younger sisters? Well, wait 4 years and see what happens. I bet they'll get hit too.

Her sisters might get taken away. That's the risk you have to take. More likely he will do some time, if you've got proof. Try to videotape him in the act (you hide outside and tape through a window). When you do this, she must not provoke him through any physical means - only be in an argument.

Let's review. You can

(a) Threaten him or attack him.
(b) Have her go to the authorities.
(c) Do nothing.

If you do (a), you might get in trouble, and it is very very unlikely that he will stop. You might think (a) is the most manly option, but it is still a bad one. You can't protect her every second of every day. You can't protect her sisters in the future. Think about it - this is a guy who fucking BEATS his DAUGHTER. Do you think he's going to say "oh - shit, I better not do this any more, it's wrong" after you confront him? Hell no.

If you do (b), what is likely is the family will get put through some counseling. This may seem like a pussy way out, but it has a far higher likelihood of working than (a) does. If it continues, he will be arrested. Be sure you have evidence for (b), like video footage and/or bruises. If you take video footage, be 100% sure she is not threatening him physically - that wouldn't absolve him of blame, but it somewhat lessens his moral culpability. It might be that if you go this route they will no longer pay for her college education. So? I worked my way through college and she can too. It's a harder life, true, but the good that getting this man some help or taking him AWAY, would do, is far greater. She owes it to herself and to her sisters. Lastly, make HER go to the authorities. You don't want to meddle in this and get your feet dirty. You support her in every way possible, but you must make HER do the report.

If you do (c), it will continue. He doesn't hit her sisters now. Wait 4 years, especially once she is gone and not able to be the target any more.

I have tried to take a calm, rational look at this problem. I hope this has helped.
 
Oak, you handled it correctly by not putting him through a wall. It may have felt like the right thing to do, but the situation would have twisted around with her being told to never see you again - and then you wouldn't be able to help at all.

First, recognize that this isn't a new situation. This is the pattern of behavior that she has grown up with and adapted to. This is probably all she has known all her life. It sucks to put it this bluntly, but she is accustomed to a violent, abusive home. She doesn't know any different.

Second, the best assistance you can offer at this point is to get her working with a therapist. The psycological conditioning here goes years deep, and it is going to take a GOOD professional to get her to recognize that she has accepted an unacceptable situation.

Third, she is almost an adult. She may think she is dependant on her parents for financial support, but truthfully she isn't. She is going to need help to realize that it is better to get out from under that roof.

PM me if you want to talk on the phone... my dime.
 
Satanic Goatslayer said:
Don't piss in other people's lawns.

You'd be best advised to stay out of this, unless you are willing to do time or die, depending on the man's mental state.

Oh....... you must have forgotten his little "incident" a while back with another girl (or this same one) that he felt he had to "defend". Taking a road trip and attempting to beat down someone over a female.:rolleyes:

You were encouraged to call the police and report that incident too and let them handle the guy involved. Yet you chose not to. Same advice goes here. At some point the authorities are GOING to get involved. You better hope it is not when it is AGAINST you.

The last go around, you claimed you COULD DO THE TIME involved as well. Motherfucker you crazy for giving up your freedom over some woman. You might have been a boxer and can hold your own against a 20 year old, but I got $50 that 350lb Tyrone is going to come out as Husband of the shower fight.

Where do you find these women? Motherfucker I couldn't find these fucked up situations if I ran an ad in the paper looking.
 
i appreciate the help guys

sofageorge i appreciate it and i may take you up on the offer tomorrow night ,but right now i have to get to bed i have to be up at 630 for work and the army doesnt like lates
 
Dude if this happens again, just remember, absolutely no good can come out of you confronting him. Absolutely none, for you nor for her. It might feel good at the moment, but it'll end up far worse. Take a few deep breaths and think of tweety + sylvester if this happens again. Good luck
 
slack3r said:
just another bullshit post by the canadian joak..yawn

Yup! I don’t believe a word that comes out of this guys mouth.

I’m sure in a few days he’ll post how he saved the day by standing up to her big tough dad. Maybe we’ll even be treated to a play by play of the fight. I can’t wait….
 
I'm the mother of a 20 year old and I agree that you need to get her into some counseling. What is going on is absolutely unacceptable. I think you should take SofaGeorge up on his offer as he will be able to give you the mature advice that you need right now. If he is not beating on the younger two the only thing I have to say is "yet". This cycle needs to be broken before it continues any further.
 
Anal AssPlorer said:


Oh....... you must have forgotten his little "incident" a while back with another girl (or this same one) that he felt he had to "defend". Taking a road trip and attempting to beat down someone over a female.:rolleyes:

You were encouraged to call the police and report that incident too and let them handle the guy involved. Yet you chose not to. Same advice goes here. At some point the authorities are GOING to get involved. You better hope it is not when it is AGAINST you.

The last go around, you claimed you COULD DO THE TIME involved as well. Motherfucker you crazy for giving up your freedom over some woman. You might have been a boxer and can hold your own against a 20 year old, but I got $50 that 350lb Tyrone is going to come out as Husband of the shower fight.

Where do you find these women? Motherfucker I couldn't find these fucked up situations if I ran an ad in the paper looking.

hahaha, solid advice there anal.

anal is dead on the money, don't waste your time and effort with a girl that is 17. you will not get married, you will not be together this time next year, etc. etc. don't fucking play this tough guy shit up either man. go to fucking jail, and you will be crying your little eyes out my man. you will be fresh ass and thats it. if it is that bad, she needs to handle it by HERSELF. talk to her, and only her. no one else. try to distance yourself from this situation as much ass possible, because i have been there my man, and trust me, all these chicks are WAY fucked up.
 
Ingram said:


Yup! I don’t believe a word that comes out of this guys mouth.

I’m sure in a few days he’ll post how he saved the day by standing up to her big tough dad. Maybe we’ll even be treated to a play by play of the fight. I can’t wait….

I'm new here does he have a history of BSing?
 
Zirakzigil said:


I'm new here does he have a history of BSing?

I believe Satanic Goatslayer made a chronical of the Oak's great adventures.
 
No offense man but did you see her getting hit by her dad?

Why I ask this is because most girls this age are major bitches to the whole world and to them mouthing off and getting a slap they relay to the rest of the world as getting beaten with a coat hanger heated in lava.

Just my 2 cents ad why I ask is really this.

He doesnt hit the other ones just her? Hmmm me thinks she is typical of what I said above. I coule be wrong but thats rare.

2- did you see this up front? If not take it as dramatics..really I mean this.

3- Like everyone else said doing something about this wont do shit for her. If it is really happening only she can report it.
 
The Canadian Oak said:


time i can do,i will not die because he is not nuts he is just a pussy who cant hit a man

don't be stupid. i know it bothers you but sg gave you the best advice. don't get into another family's business....not unless you're family.
 
Satanic Goatslayer said:
Don't piss in other people's lawns.

You'd be best advised to stay out of this, unless you are willing to do time or die, depending on the man's mental state.


Satanic has a point.....does not mean I like it.....but he has a point
 
Si|vio said:
you should shut up and not do anything.

in 3 weeks when you two are broken up will you give her food and shelter? If he can hit her, he can easily kick her ass out because her dumb 17 year old boyfriend put his nose where it didn't belong.

if you absolutely want to do something, talk to HER about filling a report HERSELF, because when you two are through you might have done more harm than good by sticking your face up in everyone else business.

Exactly right,,, youre in no position to solve anything here... no matter badly you may want to.
 
ive clamed down and am going to support her and encourage counselling but other then that ill stay out

and i have not witnessed violence only been there when he threatened to knock her block off,and this was for no good reason
 
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