Nude Beach

[RachelEFC]

Ever been to one? What exactly is allowed/not allowed?

Going to one on Saturday, it's kind of strange... tucked away in the SouthWest corner is a town on Lake Michigan called Saugatuck (Hansel, where are you? Have you been there?). It's predominantly a gay town, but also has a nude private beach with literally a "gay" section and a "straight" section.

Is this common? I'm psyched to go... I don't care if I see guys getting on each other, I'm all about the love.

So again, my question actually is, have you been to a nude beach? Did you like it? Were you nude? Did you get freaky? And did you see other people getting freaky and how did you feel about it?

 

[bw1]

Never been to one...take pics

 

[Mr. dB]

You can say "fuck" here.

Really.

You can ask "Did you fuck? And did you see other people fucking and how did you feel about it?"

 

[RachelEFC]

Yeah, I guess I could've. You didn't answer the questions.

 

[milo hobgoblin]

Ya used to go to them with my ex-GF years ago..

a combination if very hot college girls from UCSD/SDSU, couples, werid old nudists and gay men.

Very little sex going on.. if ever at all.

 

[Creepusmaximus]

Been there done that and in general nothing good to look at. Nothing like seeing an 80 year guy to straighten you right out. Your going in MI? Get ready for 300 lbs people.

Good luck.

BTW. Screwing or anything sexual is a no no. Friendly chat etc fine.

 

[RachelEFC]

so do you just walk around and flaunt it? or stay put and sunbathe on your blanket?

 

[chris302001]

Been there done that and in general nothing good to look at. Nothing like seeing an 80 year guy to straighten you right out. Your going in MI? Get ready for 300 lbs people.

Good luck.

BTW. Screwing or anything sexual is a no no. Friendly chat etc fine.

LOL, never been to one, but thats EXACTLY what I've heard.....

 

[Johnny Cakes]

Ya used to go to them with my ex-GF years ago..

a combination if very hot college girls from UCSD/SDSU, couples, werid old nudists and gay men.

Very little sex going on.. if ever at all.

Blacks Beach is as lamo as it gets.

 

[-SD-]

Just post up the fuckin pics, jesus.

 

[RachelEFC]

Just post up the fuckin pics, jesus.

thanks fucker

 

[Johnny Cakes]

Your body is a temple.

 

[chris302001]

thanks fucker

@ your K message.......... TRUE DAT!!!

 

[Creepusmaximus]

so do you just walk around and flaunt it? or stay put and sunbathe on your blanket?

Oh ya. You'll end up talking to a couple of 50 year olds with beer bellies and their dicks just hanging there.

BTW a boner is considered bad form should you manage to get one.

There really isn't anything sexual about nude beaches and in fact most people look better with bathing suits on. Just think about boobs. Many times they look much better in a bra then just hanging there.

 

[Razorguns]

Have a group with you, otherwise you will be descended upon like vultures by every horny guy and his uncle. It'll be like a dance club but 10x worse. And most people there are old and ugly. It's not like Europe.

r

 

[chris302001]

Oh ya. You'll end up talking to a couple of 50 year olds with beer bellies and their dicks just hanging there.

BTW a boner is considered bad form should you manage to get one.

There really isn't anything sexual about nude beaches and in fact most people look better with bathing suits on. Just think about boobs. Many times they look much better in a bra then just hanging there.

LOL, yeah Rach....leave your strapon at home!

 

[Creepusmaximus]

LOL. I didn't mean that but if that's what's shes looking for so be it. LOL

Girl's always like the idea of going to nude beaches. Why???

 

[SaladFork]

Have fun looking at a bunch of fat people... Unless you are in Europe/Brazil hun I think you have the wrong idea. And in Michigan, no thanks I will pass.

 

[Razorguns]

Have fun looking at a bunch of fat people... Unless you are in Europe/Brazil hun I think you have the wrong idea. And in Michigan, no thanks I will pass.

lol. She will survive about 15 seconds nude on the beach, and when every naked old fat guy is staring at her like zombies - she will make a beeline the hell out of there!

You belong in spring break or mardi gras woman. With your own kind.

r

 

[Powerbuilder333]

I've swam in lake Michigan.
Talk about serious shrinkage - fuckin' cold water!

 

[Mr. dB]

Yeah, I guess I could've. You didn't answer the questions.

No, I've never been, therefore I have no answer for the follow-up questions.

 

[ceo]

Blacks Beach is as lamo as it gets.

good surfing, but they put the kabosh on the nudity...although you will still see some violating that.

And yeah, usually nude beaches are nothing fun. It's not like a bunch of beautiful people go there and have orgies for god's sake! Mostly "earthy" people, fat people, old people, etc. Very, very few beautiful people. People are usually just there sunbathing and maybe playing in the water...you know...stuff people do at the beach!

 

[chazk]

My wife and I like to party around with other married folks .
Just becuase we can drink party and dance around with each other have a good time on the dance floor and no one is jealous or anything if you go to the right places
( my wife is into reverse cuckhold means she likes to see me dance ,drink ,party , talk with other women)
We stayed at club hendonism in braco jamacia. A Nudest resort ( some say swinger resort) it is fun to sit around the pool naked, walk down the beach lay on a blanket , and be relaxed and comfortable.
( my wife is usually just topless) just becuase she does not like sand in/around her cootchie.
Lots of beautiful people from all around the world at that resort. Exotic women from all over the world most from europe ( they dont have many hangups over there about nudity) Some older people were their but def not ugly older people.

As far as the nude beaches here in the usa ? We went to one In miami and it was just a buncha fags and fat old old people. Fat ugly guys hanging in the bushes lurking around for others to fuck in the bushes.

Id say if you want to exp the whole nude thing. Find a local nudiest resort.
one nice one is really close to us called " caliente" and the name pretty much says it all

 

[stilleto]

yes i've been, plenty of times. I spent my summers with my father who was a nudist.

i never saw anything inappropriate and the only time i ever felt strange was when i was laying in the sun by myself and a group of around 5 mexican boys came up to my towel. They asked if i knew what time it was and I remember feeling like I was obviously about to be raped, right there on the beach. I told them the time and they said thanks and took off.

the end.

 

[heatherrae]

Nude beaches have average range of people (fat, skinny, young, old) as any other beach walking around nude. Guys aren't walking around hard or anything and there is no sex going on. It's just nude. It really isn't nearly as titilating as you are imagining it to be.

 

[Longhorn85]

the only time i ever felt strange was when i was laying in the sun by myself and a group of around 5 mexican boys came up to my towel.

They didn't count on you being a light-sleeper. Blew their plans for a circle-jerk?

 

[EnderJE]

I was thinking of going to one along time ago and asked my friend about it. He told me about when he went with his grandma. I never went and never will.

 

[ortiz34]

This thread screams someone needs E-ATTENTION

 

[Bikini Mod]

My sister went back in the day with her gf's, dopey college kids that they were LOL. She described it much like the others did before me, nothing wierd or sexual. She said it was wierd though to see guys with their winkies just floating freely in the water.

I've never been and have no desire to.

I have no qualms about being naked in front of other people or about being nude period. Matter of fact I HATE to wear a swimsuit in my own pool, won't do it unless we have company. It is just that I have ZERO DESIRE to anyone else (who is not my husband) naked. He could have the body of a god and still I would be embarrassed and feel *icky*.

I really don't want to see anyone else nekkid... that would creep me out.

Not women... I have zero issue with nekkid women. I just have NO DESIRE to see nekkid men. I mean NONE.

 

[stilleto]

They didn't count on you being a light-sleeper. Blew their plans for a circle-jerk?

lol, that's what i was afraid of. there were 5 mexican penii around me.

 

[MichaelScott]

They didn't count on you being a light-sleeper. Blew their plans for a circle-jerk?

a bukakke (pronounced boo-cocky)

 

[Grumpy Old Man]

Oh ya. You'll end up talking to a couple of 50 year olds with beer bellies and their dicks just hanging there.

BTW a boner is considered bad form should you manage to get one.

There really isn't anything sexual about nude beaches and in fact most people look better with bathing suits on. Just think about boobs. Many times they look much better in a bra then just hanging there.

HEY NOW! Damn youngsters!

No sex ever at a nude beach bad form. I really don't like them, bunch of 20 something kids with tiny pee pee's

 

[Bikini Mod]

HEY NOW! Damn youngsters!

No sex ever at a nude beach bad form. I really don't like them, bunch of 20 something kids with tiny pee pee's

As if you'd waste your time looking at the male members of that bunch of 20 something y/o kids.

*puts hands on hips*

Who you tryin to fool, old man?

 

[Grumpy Old Man]

As if you'd waste your time looking at the male members of that bunch of 20 something y/o kids.

*puts hands on hips*

Who you tryin to fool, old man?

Well I wouldn't, nude beaches area place I would never tread, Have you ever seen a naked 60 yr old hippie woman? EEEEEEEEEEEEEIiiiiiiiiiiiiKKKKKKKKKKKKsSS

 

[drsketch]

there was a beach in S.D., CA called blacks beach, was nude - I think they shut it down though

 

[Bikini Mod]

Well I wouldn't, nude beaches area place I would never tread, Have you ever seen a naked 60 yr old hippie woman? EEEEEEEEEEEEEIiiiiiiiiiiiiKKKKKKKKKKKKsSS

No, but I see a nekkid 57 year old grumpy old lawn gnome biker bastard every single day.

 

[pdaddyII]

yes i've been, plenty of times. I spent my summers with my father who was a nudist.

i never saw anything inappropriate and the only time i ever felt strange was when i was laying in the sun by myself and a group of around 5 mexican boys came up to my towel. They asked if i knew what time it was and I remember feeling like I was obviously about to be raped, right there on the beach. I told them the time and they said thanks and took off.

the end.

WTF, you are going to need to explain this a bit further for me please. So your dad was a nudist and hhe would take you to nude beaches as a child? Holy shit that's fucked up

 

[Bikini Mod]

WTF, you are going to need to explain this a bit further for me please. So your dad was a nudist and hhe would take you to nude beaches as a child? Holy shit that's fucked up

Not everyone is as repressed about nudity as most Americans are. It is legal for many to sunbathe nude in PUBLIC PARKS in Europe and many other places around the world.

So what is so fucked up about a parent taking his child to a nude beach?

 

[musclemom]

Going to a clothing optional situation is funny, you feel all timid at first then you get over it, then you get to the point where clothing is just dumb ...

For god's sake, remember to bring sunscreen! If this is the first time you've gone au naturale parts of you have NEVER seen the sun and boobs burn easily. Another essential, remember to bring an extra towel to carry where ever you go for sitting on furniture/benches/chairs.

But seriously, you see enough nude people you eventually stop being shocked, impressed or even interested. Wear large, really dark sunglasses so you can stare without being obvious and get it out of your system (it's also considered rude to openly stare at naughty bits) and sexual behavior is absolutely inappropriate (there's also a certain way to hug strange naked people but since you're not going to a pagan event you really don't have to worry about that).

I like clothing optional places, gives me an interesting perspective on the rest of society.

 

[pdaddyII]

Not everyone is as repressed about nudity as most Americans are. It is legal for many to sunbathe nude in PUBLIC PARKS in Europe and many other places around the world.

So what is so fucked up about a parent taking his child to a nude beach?

Do you have a daughter?

 

[Bikini Mod]

Do you have a daughter?

Actually I have four.

My sister has two sons and a daughter.

So your point would be?

 

[txbondsman]

Hippie hollow on Lake Travis used to be fun, was always pretty much geih place to hang, but back in the day you could go nude or not, it was all about acceptance and tollerance, which is the mantra of Austin even today. The last time I went by, in a boat, it had changed to a whale sanctuary, just a bunch of fat people, no sex that I saw ever, just overweight hippies hanging out like anywhere else, just naked.

 

[pdaddyII]

Actually I have four.

My sister has two sons and a daughter.

So your point would be?

lYou can honestly tell me that you wouldn't have a problem with your children's father taking them to a nude beach?

What does your sister have to do with anything, lol

 

[rnch]

i frequent a clothing optional country club....u see a few attractive peeps, but most of the members are not "kodak moment" types.

it's not all about physical and sexual attraction. being nude feels good and natural after u have done it long enough and have gotten past your own sexual and mental hang ups.

 

[MichaelScott]

Not everyone is as repressed about nudity as most Americans are. It is legal for many to sunbathe nude in PUBLIC PARKS in Europe and many other places around the world.

So what is so fucked up about a parent taking his child to a nude beach?

wtf? maybe back a few years ago when letto went it was a different time, there is no way it would be appropriate for a child to be at a nude beach with all the perverts out there, all i had to do was watch dateline 1 time and i figured out the world is a different place now. instead of just thinking creepy shit peoples are acting on it now. they cant keep it in their heads

 

[Bikini Mod]

lYou can honestly tell me that you wouldn't have a problem with your children's father taking them to a nude beach?

What does your sister have to do with anything, lol

I have a problem with my children's father fucking them but there isn't much I can do about that either...

If my ex were a normal, sane man then no, I wouldn't have a problem with it as long as my daughters WANTED to go. If a child is uncomfortable with any sort of nude situation they will let their parent know as your daughter will express to you once she reaches bout 9 - 11 years of age. However, if the children are raised nudist then they won't have those same feelings. See what I am saying?

I brought up the example of my sister who has children of both genders. And believe it or not they all walk around their home nude. We were raised very European. Europeans do not have the same hang-ups about nudity that most Americans do.

That is all I am saying.

 

[needtogetarmy]

I went to one in Germany. Me and my Army bors went and were all excited. When we got there we all were slightly embarrassed lol

 

[Bikini Mod]

wtf? maybe back a few years ago when letto went it was a different time, there is no way it would be appropriate for a child to be at a nude beach with all the perverts out there, all i had to do was watch dateline 1 time and i figured out the world is a different place now. instead of just thinking creepy shit peoples are acting on it now. they cant keep it in their heads

That is where you are wrong. If the thought is in their head then you know damend will it will be acted up. Every single sick child molesting piece of shit should have a long slow torturous death - ALL OF THEM.

There were just as many wierdos then as there are now. Are you suggesting that there are only wierdos living in the United States?

Europe and many other places in the world do NOT have the same hang-ups about nudity.

 

[MichaelScott]

so you are saying it is the same now as it was say in the 60's? it just seems irresponsible in today's society for a parent to take their child to a nude beach,, just my opinion

 

[Bikini Mod]

so you are saying it is the same now as it was say in the 60's? it just seems irresponsible in today's society for a parent to take their child to a nude beach,, just my opinion

In the 60's those people were all high outta their minds. LOL

You are totally entitled to your opinion.

As I stated when w/my first post I have no interest in going to a nude beach/resort not because of who would see me, but because of who I would see. Whether there would be creeps/wierdos there is of no consequence to me as those sick sonsofbitches (both male and female, though they are more male) are amongst us everywhere - especially where we least expect it. They are teachers, priests, counselors, even "the normal looking electrician that comes to do your electrical work then goes home to do his daughter".... they are EVERYWHERE.

The best you can do is to educate your children about good and bad touch and how no matter what - no matter who threatens them with whatever that YOU will believe them, it wasn't their fault and pray that MAYBE the piece of shit that harmed your child will be jailed.... that is IF your child will be brave enough to admit it.

That is enough for this topic for today.

 

[SpyWizard]

Ever been to one? What exactly is allowed/not allowed?

Going to one on Saturday, it's kind of strange... tucked away in the SouthWest corner is a town on Lake Michigan called Saugatuck (Hansel, where are you? Have you been there?). It's predominantly a gay town, but also has a nude private beach with literally a "gay" section and a "straight" section.

Is this common? I'm psyched to go... I don't care if I see guys getting on each other, I'm all about the love.

So again, my question actually is, have you been to a nude beach? Did you like it? Were you nude? Did you get freaky? And did you see other people getting freaky and how did you feel about it?

go topless with with a very small g string, that will be safe..

and watch for the 67 yr olds that keep walking by... take a friend, you don't want to be cut out of the crowd...

 

[pdaddyII]

That is where you are wrong. If the thought is in their head then you know damend will it will be acted up. Every single sick child molesting piece of shit should have a long slow torturous death - ALL OF THEM.

There were just as many wierdos then as there are now. Are you suggesting that there are only wierdos living in the United States?

Europe and many other places in the world do NOT have the same hang-ups about nudity.

i have been to them before and the last thing I would want my daughter around is patrolling dirty old men flashing their cawks for all to "admire" from one end of the beach to the other. it's irresponsible to expose young, curious and impressionable daughters to this atmosphere.

We're a sex saturated society already and we rob children of their childhood by bombarding them with so many sexual images, triggering sexual impulses prematurely. This facilitates and encourages the promiscuous and self centered society we already are. The rate of family breakdown and individual isolation is huge. This is somewhat contributed by the hedonistic philosophy which is/has permeating our culture. Nude beaches tend to propagate this bottom line.

have you ever been to a nudist facility? Was it private or public?

 

[musclemom]

Would all of you judgemental types who are down on nudity, public or private, particularly around children, just knock it off, your American is showing. We, in America, have a fucking issue about sex and nudity. This is NOT how the rest of the world works. In fact, it's one of the reasons why the rest of the world thinks we're so fucked up. If you grow up in a household/environment/culture where nude does not automatically equate to naughty you have a much healthier perspective on it.

As for children being in some sort of moral danger or the subjective of any pedophile's attention because they are in a clothing optional situation. I'm sorry, there were just as many perverts around in days gone by as there are now. In this era of better communication we just hear about them more, that's it.

Actually, perverts would be likely to stay away from clothing optional situations, remember, hard-ons are considered utterly inappropriate.

But seriously, just because American culture has utterly fucked up a lot of people's heads in regards to the naked body and sex don't go judging parents who raise their children in a clothing optional household. Nudity is NOT immoral and thinking that it promotes perversion is just blaming innocent people for someone else's issues.

 

[pdaddyII]

In the 60's those people were all high outta their minds. LOL

You are totally entitled to your opinion.

As I stated when w/my first post I have no interest in going to a nude beach/resort not because of who would see me, but because of who I would see. Whether there would be creeps/wierdos there is of no consequence to me as those sick sonsofbitches (both male and female, though they are more male) are amongst us everywhere - especially where we least expect it. They are teachers, priests, counselors, even "the normal looking electrician that comes to do your electrical work then goes home to do his daughter".... they are EVERYWHERE.

The best you can do is to educate your children about good and bad touch and how no matter what - no matter who threatens them with whatever that YOU will believe them, it wasn't their fault and pray that MAYBE the piece of shit that harmed your child will be jailed.... that is IF your child will be brave enough to admit it.

That is enough for this topic for today.

So you would feel comfortable exposing your daughters to these everyday "creeps" in a much more uninhibited atmosphere? i'm sorry but that's absolutely ludacris.

 

[Grumpy Old Man]

i have been to them before and the last thing I would want my daughter around is patrolling dirty old men flashing their cawks for all to "admire" from one end of the beach to the other. it's irresponsible to expose young, curious and impressionable daughters to this atmosphere.

We're a sex saturated society already and we rob children of their childhood by bombarding them with so many sexual images, triggering sexual impulses prematurely. This facilitates and encourages the promiscuous and self centered society we already are. The rate of family breakdown and individual isolation is huge. This is somewhat contributed by the hedonistic philosophy which is/has permeating our culture. Nude beaches tend to propagate this bottom line.

have you ever been to a nudist facility? Was it private or public?

Only in America and by an American would this statement occur. In Europe people are not concerned about "triggering" impulses. Old men don't flash shit nor do old women. When everyone is on a beach or camp that is nude no sexual ANYTHING is perceived nor is it an issue. When you grow up in a healthy atmosphere where sex isn't "Dirty" as it is here and by reading your post I can see that is your viewpoint, the children grow to view sex as a gift and are far less promiscuous than their American counterparts.

 

[MichaelScott]

In the 60's those people were all high outta their minds. LOL

You are totally entitled to your opinion.

As I stated when w/my first post I have no interest in going to a nude beach/resort not because of who would see me, but because of who I would see. Whether there would be creeps/wierdos there is of no consequence to me as those sick sonsofbitches (both male and female, though they are more male) are amongst us everywhere - especially where we least expect it. They are teachers, priests, counselors, even "the normal looking electrician that comes to do your electrical work then goes home to do his daughter".... they are EVERYWHERE.

The best you can do is to educate your children about good and bad touch and how no matter what - no matter who threatens them with whatever that YOU will believe them, it wasn't their fault and pray that MAYBE the piece of shit that harmed your child will be jailed.... that is IF your child will be brave enough to admit it.

That is enough for this topic for today.

i agree these people are everywhere, but you dont take your kid to church nude. they dont go to school nude. it kind of sounds like the argument that, oh its a picture of a nude child, but it is art. i thought it was actually illegal to expose yourself to a child, i would think the law would apply on a nude beach. i guess my opinion is skewed, i dont have kids so i guess that may skew my opinion i dont know

 

[MichaelScott]

Only in America and by an American would this statement occur. In Europe people are not concerned about "triggering" impulses. Old men don't flash shit nor do old women. When everyone is on a beach or camp that is nude no sexual ANYTHING is perceived nor is it an issue. When you grow up in a healthy atmosphere where sex isn't "Dirty" as it is here and by reading your post I can see that is your viewpoint, the children grow to view sex as a gift and are far less promiscuous than their American counterparts.

but what would ones motivation be to want to expose their child to this

 

[SpyWizard]

Would all of you judgemental types who are down on nudity, public or private, particularly around children, just knock it off, your American is showing. We, in America, have a fucking issue about sex and nudity. This is NOT how the rest of the world works. In fact, it's one of the reasons why the rest of the world thinks we're so fucked up. If you grow up in a household/environment/culture where nude does not automatically equate to naughty you have a much healthier perspective on it.

As for children being in some sort of moral danger or the subjective of any pedophile's attention because they are in a clothing optional situation. I'm sorry, there were just as many perverts around in days gone by as there are now. In this era of better communication we just hear about them more, that's it.

Actually, perverts would be likely to stay away from clothing optional situations, remember, hard-ons are considered utterly inappropriate.

But seriously, just because American culture has utterly fucked up a lot of people's heads in regards to the naked body and sex don't go judging parents who raise their children in a clothing optional household. Nudity is NOT immoral and thinking that it promotes perversion is just blaming innocent people for someone else's issues.

although I agree with these statements completely.. the issue is it's the same logic and same arguments that many organizations use to justify pedophile activities.. It's same arguments that "Sex after Eight too late" groups use to advance their causes..

Not that I support that at all, but it's the truth..

 

[pdaddyII]

I have been exposed to may nudist societies. when i lived in the south i lived and worked at a nudist colony located just blocks from where I lived. Nudists are fucking weird people with cult like behaviors. In the other countries where I have been to nude beaches where it is more accepted as a cultural whole is a different story. Those cultures have this mentality embedded in them, here in the US it is not and never will be.

 

[MichaelScott]

I have been exposed to may nudist societies. when i lived in the south i lived and worked at a nudist colony located just blocks from where I lived. Nudists are fucking weird people with cult like behaviors. In the other countries where I have been to nude beaches where it is more accepted as a cultural whole is a different story. Those cultures have this mentality embedded in them, here in the US it is not and never will be.

no kidding , have u ever seen that documentary on bbc i think it is about the nudists, what a bunch of whackjobs. a nude beach is one thing but going to church nude, playing volleyball, etc wtf

 

[pdaddyII]

Only in America and by an American would this statement occur. In Europe people are not concerned about "triggering" impulses. Old men don't flash shit nor do old women. When everyone is on a beach or camp that is nude no sexual ANYTHING is perceived nor is it an issue. When you grow up in a healthy atmosphere where sex isn't "Dirty" as it is here and by reading your post I can see that is your viewpoint, the children grow to view sex as a gift and are far less promiscuous than their American counterparts.

EXACTLY, in E U R O P E. I could write a thesis on the differences between Europe and the US. You cannot adopt a cultural lifestyle of a country within another of opposing views and moral aptitude and expect an identical result or outcome.

 

[Grumpy Old Man]

I have been exposed to may nudist societies. when i lived in the south i lived and worked at a nudist colony located just blocks from where I lived. Nudists are fucking weird people with cult like behaviors. In the other countries where I have been to nude beaches where it is more accepted as a cultural whole is a different story. Those cultures have this mentality embedded in them, here in the US it is not and never will be.

As I said the US is a strange place where people have values that are left over from who the hell knows.

I have been to a number of nudist camps and resorts as well as beaches all through the US. The people that frequent these places are in 2 catagories, 1 they are true nudists that respect everyone, 2 they are wannabe swingers looking for free or easy ass.

I detect a bit of distress in your posts and the words you use, perhaps there is an issue you had with these people that influenced your thought process. As a whole, when one has a negative experience or an experience unusual to their upbringing the topic at hand is what causes the distress.

Anyway, Americans have a jaded viewpoint on anything that has to do with the human body.

 

[musclemom]

but what would ones motivation be to want to expose their child to this

You've got to think outside the box here, imagine if YOU were raised in a household where nudity is not considered inappropriate or wrong. You raise your children the way YOU were raised. How many different cultures can you name that don't think twice about a woman being topless in public?

And yet we, in America, had little boys going through their parents stash of National Geographics

Nudists do not wake up and start dragging their 10 and 12 year olds to nude beaches. This is something they were doing from the time before the kids were born and just continued doing all throughout their lives. The kids are nude because they're comfortable with it and being around it In the Netherlands the family saunas together naked, in Japan the family bathes together, throughout Europe and South America public nudity is the norm. Hell, on British t.v. they can show full frontal during the family hour.

America is the one with the body issues, not everyone else.

 

[billfred]

EXACTLY, in E U R O P E. I could write a thesis on the differences between Europe and the US. You cannot adopt a cultural lifestyle of a country within another of opposing views and moral aptitude and expect an identical result or outcome.

If you guys turn this thread into a long philosophical debate and negate chance of pics being posted of said nooods, I am going to be pissed.

 

[MichaelScott]

lol

 

[musclemom]

although I agree with these statements completely.. the issue is it's the same logic and same arguments that many organizations use to justify pedophile activities.. It's same arguments that "Sex after Eight too late" groups use to advance their causes..

Not that I support that at all, but it's the truth..

Actually, from what I've read it seems that MOST children who are molested have it happen at home, the rest are in church or at school.

And, BTW, fuck you very much for equating what I've expressed to some pedophile's twisted doctrine. If you said that to my face you'd be eating teeth right now.

 

[Bikini Mod]

So you would feel comfortable exposing your daughters to these everyday "creeps" in a much more uninhibited atmosphere? i'm sorry but that's absolutely ludacris.

You ignoring everyone else's posts?

Please stop judging others by YOUR hang-ups as we simply don't have them.

If you don't feel comfortable with these situations then just avoid them and be done with it.

 

[needtogetarmy]

You ignoring everyone else's posts?

Please stop judging others by YOUR hang-ups as we simply don't have them.

If you don't feel comfortable with these situations then just avoid them and be done with it.

You go!

In Europe it is perfectly normal to be nude. We are talking about the human body! What could be more natural than being nude.

 

[Bikini Mod]

You go!

In Europe it is perfectly normal to be nude. We are talking about the human body! What could be more natural than being nude.

No shit...

I simply can't get over the *insane fear* and *dirty-ness* that is atrributed to one of the most unbelievably beautiful works of machinery and art = the human body.

I don't impose my points of view onto others so I don't see why I need be judged by theirs.

I suppose that is yet another reason why my sister opted to LEAVE THE UNITED STATES and return to our country: Magyar Orszag.

According to most Americans the whole rest of the world is a bubbling cauldron of dirty old men sexing young girls and boys while their parents are either oblivious or simply turning the other way.

*scratches head*

Wait a minute -

THAT IS AMERICA.

How so many minds go from the nude human form to sex with minors is completely beyond me...

 

[pdaddyII]

As I said the US is a strange place where people have values that are left over from who the hell knows.

I have been to a number of nudist camps and resorts as well as beaches all through the US. The people that frequent these places are in 2 catagories, 1 they are true nudists that respect everyone, 2 they are wannabe swingers looking for free or easy ass.

I detect a bit of distress in your posts and the words you use, perhaps there is an issue you had with these people that influenced your thought process. As a whole, when one has a negative experience or an experience unusual to their upbringing the topic at hand is what causes the distress.

Anyway, Americans have a jaded viewpoint on anything that has to do with the human body.

You're so perceptive, HELL yes there is distress in my posts. this comes from knowing that out of the thousand or so US nudists that I have met in my lifetime, not one of them hasn't been a complete weirdo. Case and point:

http://shepherdsons.wordpress.com/2...xually-assualts-little-girl-drinks-her-urine/

"The girl’s mother defended Cardillo and said she considers him family. She and Cardillo are both nudists and she “is comfortable with her daughter being nude as long as everyone is comfortable,” the woman told detectives.

The woman said she thinks the peeing incidents are “weird” but that it was not hurting anyone and she knows other people who drink urine."

People do the nude thing in Europe because it's their culture and is excepted. People do the nude thing in the US because they want to be outcasts and rebel against society as a whole, an extreme midlife crisis. I am in no way saying that this applies to all of them but certainly to all that I have come into contact with and am speculating the majority.

 

[needtogetarmy]

You're so perceptive, HELL yes there is distress in my posts. this comes from knowing that out of the thousand or so US nudists that I have met in my lifetime, not one of them hasn't been a complete weirdo. Case and point:

http://shepherdsons.wordpress.com/2...xually-assualts-little-girl-drinks-her-urine/

"The girl’s mother defended Cardillo and said she considers him family. She and Cardillo are both nudists and she “is comfortable with her daughter being nude as long as everyone is comfortable,” the woman told detectives.

The woman said she thinks the peeing incidents are “weird” but that it was not hurting anyone and she knows other people who drink urine."

People do the nude thing in Europe because it's their culture and is excepted. People do the nude thing in the US because they want to be outcasts and rebel against society as a whole, an extreme midlife crisis. I am in no way saying that this applies to all of them but certainly to all that I have come into contact with and am speculating the majority.

Some nudists are weirdos. So are a lot of other people. Hell, half of the people here, including myself, are off their rocker.

 

[pdaddyII]

You go!

In Europe it is perfectly normal to be nude. We are talking about the human body! What could be more natural than being nude.

yup, in Europe; viewpoints and mentality are a bit different in the states though don't you think?

 

[Bikini Mod]

You're so perceptive, HELL yes there is distress in my posts. this comes from knowing that out of the thousand or so US nudists that I have met in my lifetime, not one of them hasn't been a complete weirdo. Case and point:

http://shepherdsons.wordpress.com/2...xually-assualts-little-girl-drinks-her-urine/

"The girl’s mother defended Cardillo and said she considers him family. She and Cardillo are both nudists and she “is comfortable with her daughter being nude as long as everyone is comfortable,” the woman told detectives.

The woman said she thinks the peeing incidents are “weird” but that it was not hurting anyone and she knows other people who drink urine."

People do the nude thing in Europe because it's their culture and is excepted. People do the nude thing in the US because they want to be outcasts and rebel against society as a whole, an extreme midlife crisis. I am in no way saying that this applies to all of them but certainly to all that I have come into contact with and am speculating the majority.

It's truly unfortunate that your experiences were so negative. Perhaps if you traveled outside the US you would see that *those wierdos* shouldn't be allowed to have power over YOUR thoughts?

As I said, you are free to think and do as you choose. Just please don't judge those of us who don't have those same hang-ups with the same harshness and dirtiness as we have NOT ALLOWED such dirtiness to infiltrate our thoughts... And who would know better than me.

 

[billfred]

You're so perceptive, HELL yes there is distress in my posts. this comes from knowing that out of the thousand or so US nudists that I have met in my lifetime, not one of them hasn't been a complete weirdo. Case and point:

http://shepherdsons.wordpress.com/2...xually-assualts-little-girl-drinks-her-urine/

"The girl’s mother defended Cardillo and said she considers him family. She and Cardillo are both nudists and she “is comfortable with her daughter being nude as long as everyone is comfortable,” the woman told detectives.

The woman said she thinks the peeing incidents are “weird” but that it was not hurting anyone and she knows other people who drink urine."

People do the nude thing in Europe because it's their culture and is excepted. People do the nude thing in the US because they want to be outcasts and rebel against society as a whole, an extreme midlife crisis. I am in no way saying that this applies to all of them but certainly to all that I have come into contact with and am speculating the majority.

"Necessary?? Is it necessary that I drink my own urine? No but I do because it is sterile and I like the taste."

 

[Bikini Mod]

yup, in Europe; viewpoints and mentality are a bit different in the states though don't you think?

Many Europeans living here man... that's all we are saying.

 

[Bikini Mod]

"Necessary?? Is it necessary that I drink my own urine? No but I do because it is sterile and I like the taste."

I remember reading somewhere that A LOT of people engage in this behavior.

Dunno what to think about it. I mean could such a practise possibly have any benefit? I mean, it is your body's waste for a reason, no?

*shivers*

 

[Bikini Mod]

Some nudists are weirdos. So are a lot of other people. Hell, half of the people here, including myself, are off their rocker.

Ain't nuthin hardly normal bout me OR my husband. ... or come to think of it, ANY of our friends!!!

 

[pdaddyII]

It's truly unfortunate that your experiences were so negative. Perhaps if you traveled outside the US you would see that *those wierdos* shouldn't be allowed to have power over YOUR thoughts?

As I said, you are free to think and do as you choose. Just please don't judge those of us who don't have those same hang-ups with the same harshness and dirtiness as we have NOT ALLOWED such dirtiness to infiltrate our thoughts... And who would know better than me.

I'm sorry but I will continue to judge nudists since everyone I've ever met has been a weirdo. Our opinions are usually a direct result of personal experiences right?

Do you really want to go down the long list of crimes against children with nudist connections?

http://www.nostatusquo.com/ACLU/NudistHallofShame/KidsMaybeatRisk.html

 

[cuthroat]

My sister went back in the day with her gf's, dopey college kids that they were LOL. She described it much like the others did before me, nothing wierd or sexual. She said it was wierd though to see guys with their winkies just floating freely in the water.

I've never been and have no desire to.

I have no qualms about being naked in front of other people or about being nude period. Matter of fact I HATE to wear a swimsuit in my own pool, won't do it unless we have company. It is just that I have ZERO DESIRE to anyone else (who is not my husband) naked. He could have the body of a god and still I would be embarrassed and feel *icky*.

I really don't want to see anyone else nekkid... that would creep me out.

Not women... I have zero issue with nekkid women. I just have NO DESIRE to see nekkid men. I mean NONE.

Did someone just come out of the closet? Lol, by the way your 'Old Yeller' signature is obnoxiously big and red.

 

[billfred]

I remember reading somewhere that A LOT of people engage in this behavior.

Dunno what to think about it. I mean could such a practise possibly have any benefit? I mean, it is your body's waste for a reason, no?

*shivers*

That was one of the many classic quotes Patches O"houllihan in the movie Dodge Ball.

 

[Bikini Mod]

I'm sorry but I will continue to judge nudists since everyone I've ever met has been a weirdo. Our opinions are usually a direct result of personal experiences right?

Do you really want to go down the long list of crimes against children with nudist connections?

http://www.nostatusquo.com/ACLU/NudistHallofShame/KidsMaybeatRisk.html

You don't have to apologize for your point of view. I understand it 100%.

All I am saying is don't judge ME and those LIKE ME because of what happened to YOU as there is an entire *whole rest of the world* that isn't like this.

Until you have left the United States and experienced other cultures first hand it is short-sighted and unfair of you to judge those who have very different experiences by YOUR standard.

As I said, I know of at least ONE NON-NUDIST *upstanding member of society* electrical contractor in NJ who has NO ISSUE sexing his own daughter.

There is are sick mofos all over the place. Let's start with church and work our way out to the nudists LOL.

Oh yea... and I am NOT a nudist. I am just comfortable being nude in my own home around my own children. As stated many times before, I've never been to a nude beach or a nude resort or a nudist colony as I have ZERO DESIRE to see other men (who are not my husband) naked, nothing more and nothing less.

 

[Bikini Mod]

Did someone just come out of the closet? Lol, by the way your 'Old Yeller' signature is obnoxiously big and red.

LOL nah the words in my sig have nothing to do with that.

They are there so that every single time I post, I do my job as a mother with whatever I can to let the rest of the world know two things:

1. not every mother who is stripped of custody of her children "deserves it", just as is the case with many fathers. The only difference is there is NO STIGMA attached to a man who loses custody.

2. my children are being abused and suffer daily. If this is happening to my kids, then chances are (and it is) that there are other children that you may even know suffering similarly.

And I won't SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT IT EVER, no matter how uncomfortable this may make every single person who reads those words.

(I only answered you here, because you asked me here. If you would like to know more then you are free to begin another thread and I will be 100% honest with you answering any questions you have for me. But let's leave this topic alone here. )

 

[blueta2]

I've never felt secure with my body enough to show it off, even when I was ripped and tight.
I do feel secure in sexy clothes just not naked

 

[pdaddyII]

Just some key statements from that article that I think need pointed out.


Detroit postal inspector Michael O'Hara, who made 40 arrests for child pornography in three years, said child pornographers must accomplish two things before they begin their work: They must gain children's trust and get them to take off their clothes. "If Mom and Dad have already got you trusting and naked, you've broken down the child's two main defenses," he said.



Law enforcement officials say that even though most nudists abhor such activity, pedophiles all over the country appear to be using the nudist movement for access to trusting, naked children.


"Obviously not all nudists are interested in molesting children," said Dallas Police Sgt. B.A. Fassett of the Child Exploitation Unit "but if a person is interested in children, where else better to go than a nudist camp?"

Ms. Craft was never a nudist* but was employed by the Naturist Society during the 1980s. She says she has files on nearly a hundred more arrested, suspected and currently under investigation," she said.
Ms. Craft's files -- which include news reports, court records and interviews with police -- concentrate on California cases. "That's because I looked the hardest at California," she said. "I believe I'd find the same thing anywhere if I looked closely." Michigan, Illinois, Florida, Arizona, Alabama, Ohio, Wisconsin, Colorado, North Carolina and Washington are all represented in Ms. Craft's files.

 

[pdaddyII]

I have honestly never really done any research on pedopholia and nudist's until now. I am BLOWN AWAY at the amount of evidence backing this trend.

Seriously, google it and you will change your argument.


Knowledge is power

 

[Bikini Mod]

Just some key statements from that article that I think need pointed out.


Detroit postal inspector Michael O'Hara, who made 40 arrests for child pornography in three years, said child pornographers must accomplish two things before they begin their work: They must gain children's trust and get them to take off their clothes. "If Mom and Dad have already got you trusting and naked, you've broken down the child's two main defenses," he said.



Law enforcement officials say that even though most nudists abhor such activity, pedophiles all over the country appear to be using the nudist movement for access to trusting, naked children.


"Obviously not all nudists are interested in molesting children," said Dallas Police Sgt. B.A. Fassett of the Child Exploitation Unit "but if a person is interested in children, where else better to go than a nudist camp?"

Ms. Craft was never a nudist* but was employed by the Naturist Society during the 1980s. She says she has files on nearly a hundred more arrested, suspected and currently under investigation," she said.
Ms. Craft's files -- which include news reports, court records and interviews with police -- concentrate on California cases. "That's because I looked the hardest at California," she said. "I believe I'd find the same thing anywhere if I looked closely." Michigan, Illinois, Florida, Arizona, Alabama, Ohio, Wisconsin, Colorado, North Carolina and Washington are all represented in Ms. Craft's files.

That's really too bad and disgusting to the nth degree...

Every time I hear about the innocense of a child being taken by some filthy predator, you've no idea how my rage increases.

You really have NO idea...

Good Lord, is the US like a freaking beacon for these filthy pigs... or what?

Every single filthy piece of shit motherfucker that hurts children should be publicly humiliated, tortured then very VERY slowly put to death so they can't do it to any other children.

 

[blueta2]

by the way, I am naked right now

 

[ricco561]

Would all of you judgemental types who are down on nudity, public or private, particularly around children, just knock it off, your American is showing. We, in America, have a fucking issue about sex and nudity. This is NOT how the rest of the world works. In fact, it's one of the reasons why the rest of the world thinks we're so fucked up. If you grow up in a household/environment/culture where nude does not automatically equate to naughty you have a much healthier perspective on it.

As for children being in some sort of moral danger or the subjective of any pedophile's attention because they are in a clothing optional situation. I'm sorry, there were just as many perverts around in days gone by as there are now. In this era of better communication we just hear about them more, that's it.

Actually, perverts would be likely to stay away from clothing optional situations, remember, hard-ons are considered utterly inappropriate.

But seriously, just because American culture has utterly fucked up a lot of people's heads in regards to the naked body and sex don't go judging parents who raise their children in a clothing optional household. Nudity is NOT immoral and thinking that it promotes perversion is just blaming innocent people for someone else's issues.

I concur.

 

[ricco561]

Ever been to one? What exactly is allowed/not allowed?

Going to one on Saturday, it's kind of strange... tucked away in the SouthWest corner is a town on Lake Michigan called Saugatuck (Hansel, where are you? Have you been there?). It's predominantly a gay town, but also has a nude private beach with literally a "gay" section and a "straight" section.

Is this common? I'm psyched to go... I don't care if I see guys getting on each other, I'm all about the love.

So again, my question actually is, have you been to a nude beach? Did you like it? Were you nude? Did you get freaky? And did you see other people getting freaky and how did you feel about it?

Not sure I can make it to Michigan by Sat, but I'll try my damnest.

 

[MichaelScott]

That's really too bad and disgusting to the nth degree...

Every time I hear about the innocense of a child being taken by some filthy predator, you've no idea how my rage increases.

You really have NO idea...

Good Lord, is the US like a freaking beacon for these filthy pigs... or what?

Every single filthy piece of shit motherfucker that hurts children should be publicly humiliated, tortured then very VERY slowly put to death so they can't do it to any other children.

did u see the thread about the pedo being convicted but let out on bail, part of problem

 

[Bikini Mod]

I concur.

Musclemom gives a very well thought-out cohesive arguement, one that I agree with 100% but Pdaddy also raises some questions in my mind about Americans who *seem to be* adopting such behavior.

Good Lord, are our children safe anywhere anymore?

Why is it that this type of sickness seems to be most prevalent in the United States where nudity is frowned upon? Sorta gives support to the arguement that the most puritanical societies give birth to the most sickness...

Something for us to consider.

 

[MichaelScott]

b/c our criminal justice system is weak and is primarily focused on the drug issues and not as focused on this

 

[pdaddyII]

It really is unfortunate that we as a society are not more open minded about such things. However, since this mentality is not ingrained upon us as a culture, there will be those looking to take advantage of the 'loophole'.

 

[ricco561]

Musclemom gives a very well thought-out cohesive arguement, one that I agree with 100% but Pdaddy also raises some questions in my mind about Americans who *seem to be* adopting such behavior.

Good Lord, are our children safe anywhere anymore?

Why is it that this type of sickness seems to be most prevalent in the United States where nudity is frowned upon? Sorta gives support to the arguement that the most puritanical societies give birth to the most sickness...

Something for us to consider.

I think you made several valid points over the posts.
There is, unfortunately sick bastards everywhere and always has been.
With modern technology, we are just more aware.

 

[MichaelScott]

so is it ok to let your child walk down the street naked?

 

[needtogetarmy]

yup, in Europe; viewpoints and mentality are a bit different in the states though don't you think?

I agree.

A nude beach is a nude beach tough no matter where you go - nude people, sand and sun.

 

[pdaddyII]

And, even though we're still a family here at Dunder-Mifflin, families grow. And, at some point, the daddy can't take a bath with the kids anymore. I am upper management, and it would be inappropriate for me to take a bath with Pam, as much as I might want to.

 

[pdaddyII]

I agree.

A nude beach is a nude beach tough no matter where you go - nude people, sand and sun.

So using that thought process, you think a soccer game in the states would be the same as one in let's say Spain? It's just a soccer game right - people, soccer ball, goals and grass.

 

[txbondsman]

HOLY HIJACKED THREAD!! we were discussing Rachel and a nood beach, now we have 10 pages about chlidren, perverts and the morality of America vs. the world...

 

[stosstruppe]

So using that thought process, you think a soccer game in the states would be the same as one in let's say Spain? It's just a soccer game right - people, soccer ball, goals and grass.

Well you'd have to factor in the football hooliganism / extreme ideology on display as well if it were a football game in Europe