NPP Questions

[big_aug]

Ok, I'm planning on trying NPP my next time around. I have a couple questions because I have no experience with Nandrolone.

1. Being that NPP is a short ester, could I do injections on Monday, Wednesday, Friday and be Ok? Or would I need to do it on a EOD rotating schedule? I'd much rather have set days like a MWF thing if possible.

2. Can I run an AI while taking Nandrolone without any complications? I want to avoid the bloating I get with test, and I want to be sure it won't cause any problems.

I was thinking 150mg 3x a week. Thats a pretty reasonable amount, right?

Thanks for any replies bros.

 

[Ulter]

1. Shoot every so many days. Not by the day of the week. NPP is good every 3 days.
2. Yes use an AI. Do not use Nolva, use AIFM

 

[Anthony Roberts]

You can check out a couple of profiles on NPP on my website:

www.anthony-roberts.com

And personally, I reccomend Arimidex for use with NPP, or maybe a small amount of Letro (50mcg/day or so).

 

[njmuscleguy]

Ok, I'm planning on trying NPP my next time around. I have a couple questions because I have no experience with Nandrolone.

1. Being that NPP is a short ester, could I do injections on Monday, Wednesday, Friday and be Ok? Or would I need to do it on a EOD rotating schedule? I'd much rather have set days like a MWF thing if possible.

2. Can I run an AI while taking Nandrolone without any complications? I want to avoid the bloating I get with test, and I want to be sure it won't cause any problems.

I was thinking 150mg 3x a week. Thats a pretty reasonable amount, right?

Thanks for any replies bros.

You're running test with that I assume? Which kind?

I'm starting my first NPP + test prop cycle in a few weeks (and some proviron for good measure)

 

[Ulter]

You can check out a couple of profiles on NPP on my website:

www.anthony-roberts.com

And personally, I reccomend Arimidex for use with NPP, or maybe a small amount of Letro (50mcg/day or so).

When did that start? A couple months ago you were recommending Nolva with it. I wonder what changed your mind.

 

[big_aug]

Alright, I'll go with 150mg E3D. I'll also stick to Letro as I've used it in the past and liked it. Should I try and pick up some dostinex, or would I likely not have problems? I've read that people rarely experience issues when using NPP as opposed to old fashioned deca.

Thanks again bros.

 

[Anthony Roberts]

When did that start? A couple months ago you were recommending Nolva with it. I wonder what changed your mind.

It was probably a more specific instance, where I reccomended Nolvadex along with Letrozole. If you link to it, I'll be sure to explain my reccomendations to you. Actually, I don't really remember the situation at all. If you'd be so kind as to link to the thread where I said to just use nolvadex with NPP, I'd like to see it.

 

[steelmass]

When did that start? A couple months ago you were recommending Nolva with it. I wonder what changed your mind.

I heard from you and Mr. X that it upregulates the PgR - and i definitely believe it cuz my boy took nolva/letro and his npp gyno got worse. Then he dropped nolva and it went away.

 

[fullybuilt]

I thought NPP was the same as Tren where you don't get estrogen related sides, so why the use of nolva,adex or letro? I thought you would need cabergoline to keep prolactin down since tren and NPP can raise it.

 

[Ulter]

It was deca not NPP but nandrolone nevertheless.

SM,
Macro discovered the study showing nolva increases P expression. I just spread the word.

 

[njmuscleguy]

I thought NPP was the same as Tren where you don't get estrogen related sides, so why the use of nolva,adex or letro? I thought you would need cabergoline to keep prolactin down since tren and NPP can raise it.

because tren and deca (npp) are progestins, and you can get progestegenic gyno as well.... adding nolvadex to the mix will increase those chances

 

[Ulter]

It was probably a more specific instance, where I reccomended Nolvadex along with Letrozole. If you link to it, I'll be sure to explain my reccomendations to you. Actually, I don't really remember the situation at all. If you'd be so kind as to link to the thread where I said to just use nolvadex with NPP, I'd like to see it.

Take 1/4 of the Nolvadex (10 mg/day) and double the dose of deca, increase the test by at least 1 more 150mg shot/week.

Do you remember writing that? ^^

That one was before you turned into Anthony Roberts though. It's funny, I can't find a single post by the guy you used to be here. Did you have them all deleted? I have 3 years of them in case you ever want to read up on Hooker. Now THAT guy rocked.

Anyway you recommend Nolva in your PCT articles and posts regardless of whether or not the person is coming off of deca. Which of course is bad advice.

 

[JuicedAthletics]

That one was before you turned into Anthony Roberts though. It's funny, I can't find a single post by the guy you used to be here. Did you have them all deleted? I have 3 years of them in case you ever want to read up on Hooker. Now THAT guy rocked.

Nice find and response Ulter.....

AR - Why dont you go bitch about it in your blogs and then rat out some more good bros....

 

[Anthony Roberts]

It was deca not NPP but nandrolone nevertheless.

SM,
Macro discovered the study showing nolva increases P expression. I just spread the word.

I reccomended just Nolvadex with Deca? Weird....can you link me to that, please...I don't recall posting that....and here's why I find that idea weird:

I actually had that study in a piece I wrote on BB4L and SynergyMuscle about 3 years ago...and was responsible for putting it out on most of the boards I'm active on....so....It must have been a major error on my part if I reccomendced just Nolvadex for use with Deca. Can you link me to this, so I can correct myself? I can't seem to find it, and I'm sure if you say it exists, it must.

Just seems odd, since my first major writing piece included that information on the PgR and Nolvadex...I'd like to find it and correct it.

 

[Ulter]

I copied and pasted that from your post on AF. Go search your name and you'll find it. I can't link that board here.

Of course if you're asking me to find you posts with your new name I don't have any. All of them at Elite are gone somehow. There only remains the ones on bb4life and AF from what I've seen. If you knew about the nolva issue 3 years ago then why would have recommended it in PCT of a cycle that included Deca. No cycle that includes Deca should be followed by PCT that uses Nolva. Yet you don't qualify that in your PCT articles.

 

[Anthony Roberts]

When did that start? A couple months ago you were recommending Nolva with it. I wonder what changed your mind.

If you knew about the nolva issue 3 years ago then why would have recommended it in PCT of a cycle that included Deca.

So do I reccomend Nolvadex with deca or after it? I don't get it. In the first post you're saying I reccomend Nolvadex with Deca, in the second post you're saying I reccomend Nolvadex AFTER a cycle including deca. Which one are you claiming I reccomend Nolvadex for? A cycle including deca, or a PCT FOLLOWING deca? There's a huge difference in reccomending 2 drugs at the same time, and reccomending one following the other.

I reccomend using a condom during sex, but not putting one on after it's over. There's a huge difference between the two.

I stand by my reccomendations, with regards to using Nolvadex as a part of your PCT for Deca. Once again though, you haven't told the full story and are making it seem like that's the only thing I reccomend in PCT, which is quite misleading. Nobody's ever gotten gyno on my PCT, and many members of Steroid.com have used it successfully, and one member here (T-Matt) even put an older friend on my pct in lieu of HRT and it was successful for restoring libido and well being . In any case...

If you knew about the nolva issue 3 years ago then why would have recommended it in PCT of a cycle that included Deca.

Once again, this is different than reccomending it to be used at the same time as Deca. Consecutive use is not concurrant use. Ten consecutive 1 year time spans is ten years, while ten concurrent 1 year time spans is only one year.

But if you don't believe I've known about this fact for over 2 years, here's proof...

Published in an article written by me, in 2004, over 2 years ago:

"if you take progesteronic gear and use nolvadex, you may be at an increased risk for progesteronic sides, as nolvadex may increase progesterone receptors (Gynecol Oncol. 1999 Mar;72(3):331-6.)."

I had found the study several months before, as well as additional information, but the publication date of that article was when I got all of the information together....just over 2 years ago. So I've known about it for at least that long; you can easily verify this by going to BB4L and looking on the main page under the link for "Post Cycle Recovery" which was written by me.

Why anyone would want to go to, or sponsor, that board when the owner aided Supra in forging NeoMasteron lab tests, however, is beyond me....

 

[needtogetaas]

So do I reccomend Nolvadex with deca or after it? I don't get it. In the first post you're saying I reccomend Nolvadex with Deca, in the second post you're saying I reccomend Nolvadex AFTER a cycle including deca. Which one are you claiming I reccomend Nolvadex for? A cycle including deca, or a PCT FOLLOWING deca? There's a huge difference in reccomending 2 drugs at the same time, and reccomending one following the other.

I reccomend using a condom during sex, but not putting one on after it's over. There's a huge difference between the two.

I stand by my reccomendations, with regards to using Nolvadex as a part of your PCT for Deca. Once again though, you haven't told the full story and are making it seem like that's the only thing I reccomend in PCT, which is quite misleading. Nobody's ever gotten gyno on my PCT, and many members of Steroid.com have used it successfully, and one member here (T-Matt) even put an older friend on my pct in lieu of HRT and it was successful for restoring libido and well being . In any case...



Once again, this is different than reccomending it to be used at the same time as Deca. Consecutive use is not concurrant use. Ten consecutive 1 year time spans is ten years, while ten concurrent 1 year time spans is only one year.

But if you don't believe I've known about this fact for over 2 years, here's proof...

Published in an article written by me, in 2004, over 2 years ago:

"if you take progesteronic gear and use nolvadex, you may be at an increased risk for progesteronic sides, as nolvadex may increase progesterone receptors (Gynecol Oncol. 1999 Mar;72(3):331-6.)."

I had found the study several months before, as well as additional information, but the publication date of that article was when I got all of the information together....just over 2 years ago. So I've known about it for at least that long; you can easily verify this by going to BB4L and looking on the main page under the link for "Post Cycle Recovery" which was written by me.

Why anyone would want to go to, or sponsor, that board when the owner aided Supra in forging NeoMasteron lab tests, however, is beyond me....

you would think they would make you a cotb so I cant bomb you any more.

 

[big_aug]

It's a shame that I sparked such a wonderful arguement by asking a couple of simple questions.

Winny and Nandrolone compete for the same receptors right? Could I run some Winny in this cycle to lower the chances of any progestenic gyno? I'm pretty paranoid about gyno, and would much rather do everything to prevent it rather than have to do something to remedy it after it has occured.

Thanks again guys.

 

[thelion2005]

Ok, I'm planning on trying NPP my next time around. I have a couple questions because I have no experience with Nandrolone.

1. Being that NPP is a short ester, could I do injections on Monday, Wednesday, Friday and be Ok? Or would I need to do it on a EOD rotating schedule? I'd much rather have set days like a MWF thing if possible.

2. Can I run an AI while taking Nandrolone without any complications? I want to avoid the bloating I get with test, and I want to be sure it won't cause any problems.

I was thinking 150mg 3x a week. Thats a pretty reasonable amount, right?

Thanks for any replies bros.

I am finishing a cycle of 150 npp p/w with 150 test c p/w, 30 dbol p/d and 0.5 a-dex MWF. I inject Sun and Thurs.

My choice for controlling esto is a-dex. 0.5 MWF

My strength increased dramatically. No "dick" problems. No gyno or nipple problems. Picked up a solid 11.5 pounds.

I don't recommend nand without test of some kind with it, in at least an equal amount.

 

[big_aug]

Yea, I'll be including test as well.

 

[Anthony Roberts]

I copied and pasted that from your post on AF. Go search your name and you'll find it. I can't link that board here.

Of course if you're asking me to find you posts with your new name I don't have any. All of them at Elite are gone somehow. There only remains the ones on bb4life and AF from what I've seen. If you knew about the nolva issue 3 years ago then why would have recommended it in PCT of a cycle that included Deca. No cycle that includes Deca should be followed by PCT that uses Nolva. Yet you don't qualify that in your PCT articles.

I was never a member of Elite until I signed up as this username. If someone was using a name similar to my old screenname, it wasn't me.

Also, I don't think the quotes you are saying are attributable to me were posted by me, since you aren't linking to where they were actually said, and they don't look like my writing....I wouldn't reccomend 10 mgs of letro or whatever....that's absurd.

 

[mesco]

since you aren't linking to where they were actually said, and they don't look like my writing

I copied and pasted that from your post on AF. Go search your name and you'll find it. I can't link that board here.

 

[Big Rick Rock]

you would think they would make you a cotb so I cant bomb you any more.

Good idea!

I'll ask... Myself about it.




-BRR

 

[Big_Joe]

I was never a member of Elite until I signed up as this username. If someone was using a name similar to my old screenname, it wasn't me.

Also, I don't think the quotes you are saying are attributable to me were posted by me, since you aren't linking to where they were actually said, and they don't look like my writing....I wouldn't reccomend 10 mgs of letro or whatever....that's absurd.

This couldn't be Ulter wanting to sell more of his products could it???

Ulter You made some bold statements here and so far you haven't been able to prove any of them. Even to the point that AR says he didn't post here under any different name but you say all his posts are gone. Then you accuse him of deleting them. You sound fishy to me Ulter. Like you have some axe to grind and can't back up your mouth with fact.