Not getting busted

[biggeek]

Got an idea.. something I've tried a few times and have been successful. When ordering from someone new.. or your unsure of.. order your PCT stuff first.. and in the least amount possible.. some places have a ridiculous minimum amount.. which is stupid.. once you earn my trust.. then i'll blow 2 paychecks on your stuff.. lol.. if your order pct stuff.. which is usually not controlled substances.. you get to look at his shipping times.. packaging technique's.. customer service.. quality of product.. you get an idea about their business ethic.. then you decide whether you wanna order the real deal from them or not.. It would be much easier to deal with them catching you with 50 clomid or nolvadex tabs instead of 20 amps of sust.. which do you think you could play off better??.. just my 2 cents..

 

[The Terminator]

Got an idea.. something I've tried a few times and have been successful. When ordering from someone new.. or your unsure of.. order your PCT stuff first.. and in the least amount possible.. some places have a ridiculous minimum amount.. which is stupid.. once you earn my trust.. then i'll blow 2 paychecks on your stuff.. lol.. if your order pct stuff.. which is usually not controlled substances.. you get to look at his shipping times.. packaging technique's.. customer service.. quality of product.. you get an idea about their business ethic.. then you decide whether you wanna order the real deal from them or not.. It would be much easier to deal with them catching you with 50 clomid or nolvadex tabs instead of 20 amps of sust.. which do you think you could play off better??.. just my 2 cents..

Interesting thought...

But for me if I am sending my money to someone its ONLY because I am already 100% certain they WONT scam me... (via source checks and chekcing with guys I trust to tell me the truth)

But I am pretty thorough with things and once finding something that works good for me, I tend to stick with it

 

[Big Rick Rock]

Interesting thought...

But for me if I am sending my money to someone its ONLY because I am already 100% certain they WONT scam me... (via source checks and chekcing with guys I trust to tell me the truth)

But I am pretty thorough with things and once finding something that works good for me, I tend to stick with it

Yup, same here. I usually get sent a couple of Lists per day. Some guys offer better prices than others, I don't baragin shop and just stick with the same 4-5 guys that have come thru for me in the past. I know guys that have lost hundreds trying to save a couple of bucks with a new guy.

 

[The Terminator]

I know guys that have lost hundreds trying to save a couple of bucks with a new guy.

You'd be surprised at just HOW MANY guys have come to me saying I was using source XXX for a year and service was great, prices fair, TA time good, etc....

Then source XYZ came along and his stuff was $5 cheaper per 10 ml bottle so I jumped on over for that steal of a deal , and then he scammed me after my inital small order

Moral of the story: If you are lucky enough to find a source you like AND trust then stick with them ...The best sources ARENT always the cheapest ones (unless you are just a flat out cheapskate )

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

Got an idea.. something I've tried a few times and have been successful. When ordering from someone new.. or your unsure of.. order your PCT stuff first.. and in the least amount possible.. some places have a ridiculous minimum amount.. which is stupid.. once you earn my trust.. then i'll blow 2 paychecks on your stuff.. lol.. if your order pct stuff.. which is usually not controlled substances.. you get to look at his shipping times.. packaging technique's.. customer service.. quality of product.. you get an idea about their business ethic.. then you decide whether you wanna order the real deal from them or not.. It would be much easier to deal with them catching you with 50 clomid or nolvadex tabs instead of 20 amps of sust.. which do you think you could play off better??.. just my 2 cents..

I can't argue with what the others have said. You really need to KNOW your source b4 making a big order. I've taken chances and luckily haven't been burnt too many times I too stick with the same 3-4 guys.

 

[Big Rick Rock]

You'd be surprised at just HOW MANY guys have come to me saying I was using source XXX for a year and service was great, prices fair, TA time good, etc....

Then source XYZ came along and his stuff was $5 cheaper per 10 ml bottle so I jumped on over for that steal of a deal , and then he scammed me after my inital small order

Moral of the story: If you are lucky enough to find a source you like AND trust then stick with them ...The best sources ARENT always the cheapest ones (unless you are just a flat out cheapskate )

Yup... Funny most of them e-mail me to report the scamer but they never bothered to do a source sheck with anybody before sending their money lol lol lol.

 

[satchboogie]

Got an idea.. something I've tried a few times and have been successful. When ordering from someone new.. or your unsure of.. order your PCT stuff first.. and in the least amount possible.. just my 2 cents..

most solid sources have a minimum order though..
ever thought of that?

 

[SuperDawgy]

most solid sources have a minimum order though..
ever thought of that?

Heed the words of the boogie-man! Btw Satch, got 315 yet bubba?

 

[biggeek]

most solid sources have a minimum order though..
ever thought of that?

But most honest ones are willing to drop it for first time orders.. or willing to work with you. I too have a select few I know and trust and am not looking to take the cheap way out. I was simply providing an idea for people that haven't purchased from someone yet to REALLY know if they are legit or not. You can source check someone a million times.. but you only really know till you've got your stuff.. I mean.. we are talking about online here.. and this tends to be a dishonest world.. source checks and talking with people is this first step to me finding someone new.. then i go with my plan.. THEN if all goes well.. i will most definatly be a repeat customer..

The small and select few great ones i have dealt with did have a minimum order amount.. one didn't.. they were actually the best.. but the minimum amount wasn't outrageous..

I still think for a lot of newbs.. or people looking into a new source and are a little skeptical.. it is a smart and safe practice.. and can save you a lot of trouble..

 

[The_Chemist]

most solid sources have a minimum order though..
ever thought of that?

That is completley untrue of solid domestic sources IMO. The only ones who usually have a minimum order are the international sources.

 

[satchboogie]

That is completley untrue of solid domestic sources IMO. The only ones who usually have a minimum order are the international sources.

the fewer transactions the safer everybody is.
thus the minimum...

 

[idcbp]

Listen to satch, he right on point. Do you want multiple shipments in the mail? Everyone is an exposure, no matter how small, for you and your guy. Additionally, what does your test order really prove? That the guy scamming you has some anc. items to send you? Receieving these items or even a small amount of gear doesn't mean the hook isn't being set for the real scam. Nothing in this game is for sure, but I'll put my money on the proven, source checked bros everytime as opposed to playing detective myself with test runs that I think really amount to a song and dance to make yourself feel more comfortable, but really provide no assurances b/c the top priority of a scammer is to make you feel comfortable so he can scam you. Good discussion bros

 

[bullcocky]

Domestic is very safe; been going domestic for a while and have never had a problem. Usually domestic have about a $100 minimum which isn't bad. Pay attention to the ordering instructions, if they seem kinda shady then don't buy. If the prices are abnormally cheap then its prolly too good to be true!

 

[biggeek]

Listen to satch, he right on point. Do you want multiple shipments in the mail? Everyone is an exposure, no matter how small, for you and your guy. Additionally, what does your test order really prove? That the guy scamming you has some anc. items to send you? Receieving these items or even a small amount of gear doesn't mean the hook isn't being set for the real scam. Nothing in this game is for sure, but I'll put my money on the proven, source checked bros everytime as opposed to playing detective myself with test runs that I think really amount to a song and dance to make yourself feel more comfortable, but really provide no assurances b/c the top priority of a scammer is to make you feel comfortable so he can scam you. Good discussion bros

I agree a lot with what Satch said.. and the more shipments.. the more risk.. definatly.. BUT.. source checking.. etc.. etc.. is like asking someone else if a certain supplement was good.. it may have been good for THEM.. may suck complete ass for you.. THEY may have gotten great service.. you may get scammed.. or arrested.. who the hell knows.. i always play the smallest possible order upfront.. i wanna know how these guys really are.. for all you know the person your source checking from could be their friend.. co worker.. hell.. even them.. there is no telling.. plus.. people changed.. the source could have been shut down since your "source check" guy last tried them.. and now they are being watched.. in this line of business.. there is no ASSURANCE.. you take a risk each and every time and hope your ass off that everything is straight.. I have a few people that portray all the qualities of a good business.. as i see it.. quick response time to e-mails.. questions.. concerns.. good product list.. with average pricing.. not too low.. not too high.. average shipping costs.. a reship policy (especially if international).. flexbility of payment (a HUGE difference to me).. then once i've gotten the stuff.. the quality of packaging.. the quality of products and if i got EXACTLY what i ordered.. i mean.. I feel most comfortable doing it this way.. your right.. it's all about what gives you the warm fuzzies in the seat of your pants.. well.. being safe and being smart gives me the warm fuzzies and makes me want to reorder.. i have too good of a future to risk putting ALL my trust in someone i "source checked" with.. just me i guess..

Have a good weekend all!

 

[The Terminator]

i have too good of a future to risk putting ALL my trust in someone i "source checked" with.. just me i guess..

There are certain guys you will learn to trust and value their opinions more than others, (but that takes time here to find out WHO those most trustworthy people are...)

If you source check someone with me and I give you the thumbs on on said check it is because I am SURE they are good to use...(and there are only a handful of guys I back 100%)
If you check with the right guys you will get an unadulturated rundown on HOW trustworthy said source is...

 

[biggeek]

There are certain guys you will learn to trust and value their opinions more than others, (but that takes time here to find out WHO those most trustworthy people are...)

If you source check someone with me and I give you the thumbs on on said check it is because I am SURE they are good to use...(and there are only a handful of guys I back 100%)
If you check with the right guys you will get an unadulturated rundown on HOW trustworthy said source is...

Well.. with someone with as many posts as you and the karma you have.. i would have to agree with you on that one.. but no matter how many times i've used someone i personally back 100% which is very few as well.. i will still always have that little voice in the back of my head that says beware.. the animal instinct.. trust no one.. always be on your guard kind of thing..

I'm just trying to stir up some emotions and get people talking on a topic that some people don't know a lot about.. thanks for all the great feedback guys..

 

[idcbp]

Well.. with someone with as many posts as you and the karma you have.. i would have to agree with you on that one.. but no matter how many times i've used someone i personally back 100% which is very few as well.. i will still always have that little voice in the back of my head that says beware.. the animal instinct.. trust no one.. always be on your guard kind of thing..

I'm just trying to stir up some emotions and get people talking on a topic that some people don't know a lot about.. thanks for all the great feedback guys..

The discussion is always a good one to have bro, and your point about never being 100% sure is well taken, but what I'm saying and I don't mean to be offensive at all is that I don't see the things you're doing preventing a serious scam. They will weed out the half-ass scams, but any checking will do the same. If a someone wants to land a scam for real dough, he is gonna run the test orders to your spects, including packagingand response emails etc. all to gain your confidence. Thats his game and then he'll screw you over. The only way to be really sure (though I admit not absolute) is to know that the guy has come through on order after order to tons of people for tons of money and that can only be gained by vets who know the score. You can't get those assurances through the suggested sleuthing, but they can be gained by knowing who to trust.

I guess my summary would be that I agree with your emphasis on doing some work scouting a source, but I'm saying that instead of test orders and others attempts at prognostication spend that effort establishing solid relationships with vets and mods and do your homework with them. I think thats time better spent and afford you a greater degree of security.

 

[biggeek]

The discussion is always a good one to have bro, and your point about never being 100% sure is well taken, but what I'm saying and I don't mean to be offensive at all is that I don't see the things you're doing preventing a serious scam. They will weed out the half-ass scams, but any checking will do the same. If a someone wants to land a scam for real dough, he is gonna run the test orders to your spects, including packagingand response emails etc. all to gain your confidence. Thats his game and then he'll screw you over. The only way to be really sure (though I admit not absolute) is to know that the guy has come through on order after order to tons of people for tons of money and that can only be gained by vets who know the score. You can't get those assurances through the suggested sleuthing, but they can be gained by knowing who to trust.

I guess my summary would be that I agree with your emphasis on doing some work scouting a source, but I'm saying that instead of test orders and others attempts at prognostication spend that effort establishing solid relationships with vets and mods and do your homework with them. I think thats time better spent and afford you a greater degree of security.

Well put man.. i completely agree with you.. i will say however though.. it can become time consuming gaining the trust of some said mods and vets.. really depends on your attitude.. and if you know how to tread lightly.. if you know what i mean.. my idea on placing small orders.. or PCT orders is not as much to weed out the scammers.. but to prevent getting busted by the cops.. they may not be scammers at all.. may be completely legit.. doesn't mean that the DEA or whoever didn't get a tip off about them and they are watching anything from that address.. etc. etc..

But your right about the small order thing.. if someone is gonna scam you.. they will wait till you place that saved for half a year cycle and blow all your money and then bam.. your screwed.. that's just the luck of the draw there.. no can do.. but placing a PCT order first.. which sometimes isn't always a small amount.. atleast not for me but I take my post cycle pretty damn seriously.. can give some insight.. i don't downplay source checking.. any one in their right mind will do it.. but also not EVERYBODY knows EVERYBODY.. there will always be that case where you find a source that no one knows about.. that is when my ideas sort of come into play..

BTW.. just a side discussion to this thread.. to all the vets that have been posting to this thread.. what do you feel is the best way to get into your good graces and entrust other members.. to give out info such a source checks.. lists.. etc..