Not gaining weight

[biggernu]

Ok when i hit the gym again back in september i weighed a measly 166 lbs. 4 weeks ago i was pushing 200 right around 197. Now i am losing weight, and can't seem to put any on, i've stabilized at 184 ish, but I am am putting on mass all over! I eat 5-6000 calories a day, and take in 400g of protein a day, and I sleep 8-10 hours a day as well.

 

[Tatyana]

You have put on 20 lb in three months.

That is pretty awesome.

Did you use performance enhancing substances to get up to 200 lb?

I have had this burning question about what is REALLY physiologically possible to do with muscle growth. I finally found an expert who did their PhD on skeletal muscle hypertrophy, and is a pro-nattie bodybuilder.

This is the response I got from him:

well typically the absolute max amount of amino acids that can be deposited in tissue per day is about 5-10g. So let's say you max that at 10g per day. 10X365 = 3,650 grams. 3650g/454grams per lb = 8.04 lbs. Now that is dry tissue weight. Skeletal mucle is only about 30% dry tissue and 70% water. so if 8.04 is divided by .3 you get about 26.8 lbs per year. Now obviously this is not set in stone but I think it's probably safe to say anything over 25-30 lbs of LEAN tissue gain per year would be close to impossible to achieve without anabolics.


There is only so far you can push your genetic and physiology, even with performance enhancing drugs.

Bodybuilding is a marathon, not a sprint.

 

[Nelson Montana]

You have put on 20 lb in three months.

That is pretty awesome.

Did you use performance enhancing substances to get up to 200 lb?

I have had this burning question about what is REALLY physiologically possible to do with muscle growth. I finally found an expert who did their PhD on skeletal muscle hypertrophy, and is a pro-nattie bodybuilder.

This is the response I got from him:

well typically the absolute max amount of amino acids that can be deposited in tissue per day is about 5-10g. So let's say you max that at 10g per day. 10X365 = 3,650 grams. 3650g/454grams per lb = 8.04 lbs. Now that is dry tissue weight. Skeletal mucle is only about 30% dry tissue and 70% water. so if 8.04 is divided by .3 you get about 26.8 lbs per year. Now obviously this is not set in stone but I think it's probably safe to say anything over 25-30 lbs of LEAN tissue gain per year would be close to impossible to achieve without anabolics.


There is only so far you can push your genetic and physiology, even with performance enhancing drugs.

Bodybuilding is a marathon, not a sprint.

There are so many variables to that equation it's almost moot. I could dissect the concept of amino absorption but I'll leave that for another time.

Of course anyone has to gain some fat and water along with muscle tissue but in order to grow that is what's necessary. The body must also get used to holding on to a certain amount of weight. The notion that ONLY lean muscle can be grown in small and steady increments sounds good and looks good on paper but it's not necessarily the most effective or practical approach for everyone.

So yeah, bodybuilding is a marathon but progress comes in spurts along the way.

And mason -- thanks for the props. Glad to hear you're enjoying the book.

 

[biggernu]

Ive read it twice. Lets say the delt workout was so killer that, i couldn't drive home. I had to do half the weight i was doing for shoulder presses, just becasue of the technique. I had a hard time with the bent over cable behinde the back though mabey you can pm me more on it.

 

[karog]

I would recommend mixing complex carbs with your protein shakes. Shocker nutrition makes a tasteless powders. It makes your protein shakes into weight gainers. Alot of people don't realise carbs the benifits of complex carbs. The product is really cheap. Also are you strick on your protein/calorie intake?

 

[biggernu]

5000 + calories a day and ~ 400 - 450 g protein a day. Had blood work done friday, waiting ofr the HLD AND LDL, TEST, and CHOLESTEROL results to come back. They said the TEST would take about a week.

 

[jumpmaster82]

I would recommend mixing complex carbs with your protein shakes. Shocker nutrition makes a tasteless powders. It makes your protein shakes into weight gainers. Alot of people don't realise carbs the benifits of complex carbs. The product is really cheap. Also are you strick on your protein/calorie intake?

agreed. How many carbs are yiu taking in a day? Im assuming your low bf, so try loading up on carbs b4 bed. It worked for me when i used to be skinny as fuck

 

[the_alcatraz]

Carb-loading...I gained 30 lbs in 2 months...