Noob asking for advice....

[fulljonny]

Hey everyone!

I've been looking through the site over the last week and absolutely love the banter and all the great advice thats been given out.

My question is quite a simple one really. I'm looking for a first time bulking cycle - oral only.

Can someone give me some advice about what to take, amount, length of cycle and any ancilleries that may be needed please?

I'm 6ft tall, 198 lbs, bf% around the 20 mark, been training for around 2 years.

Many thanks for reading,

Jon.

 

[dabuffguy]

How old are you full jonny?

 

[Nelson Montana]

20 mgs of dianabol for one month and lots of food.

 

[dabuffguy]

20 mgs of dianabol for one month and lots of food.

A highly estrogenic converting compound for someone at 20% BF? how you figure that?



For oral only, I'd go tbol or anavar especially with his current high BF. I actually stacked the 2 and came 12 pounds heavier at an equal BF%. That's plenty of size there.

 

[the_alcatraz]

How old are you bro?

I always like to recommend test as your first cycle, but it you want to stick to orals, i'd say go with anadrol 50 or dbols, if your goal is to get BIG. However, with that much BF% and being your first cycle, I'd stick to test e.

 

[Faizakafez]

m1t baby

 

[lilj888]

i think anadrol is to much for a first cycle, the dude wouldnt know what hit him.

im around 15% bf and taking 25mg dbol a day so far gained 20lbs and am at the end of my 5th week doing it for 1 more week. good stuff

 

[fulljonny]

Hi guys,

I'm 29 years old and just done a bf test, turns out it's actually 16% (bit more accurate hey!)

Will this alter any of the advice i've been given?

Also, with the suggestions of dbol, tbol, etc - will I have to run with something that reduces estrogen during the cycle, and any pct required for after?

Many thanks for all the great advice so far, it's much appreciated.

Jonny.

 

[splperformance]

Orals only suck IMO and they limit what you can actually take on a cycle, especially if you want a liver when you're done...but if you're at 16% BF and want to bulk, dbol at 25-40mg ED for 4 weeks and you'll definitely throw some pounds on...most of it being water weight though...for a first cycle I go back to what I always recommend, Test only @ 250-500mg EW for 10 weeks...and yes, if you cycle, then you need to do PCT

 

[the_alcatraz]

Run dbols:

start with 30mgs ed and work your way up to 40-45mgs ed....depending on the sides, like back pumps etc...you'll know if you need to go higher or not....I go as high as 100mgs ed....but i've done this many times before, so I only recommend you go up to 40-45mgs ed...

you're looking as taking some form of anti-e...I usually just take 50mgs of proviron ed while ON.

Take some NAC, rALA, milk thisle, etc....for liver protection

After cycle, i.e. PCT, I'd take some clomid, nolvadex, no HCG necessary

Hi guys,

I'm 29 years old and just done a bf test, turns out it's actually 16% (bit more accurate hey!)

Will this alter any of the advice i've been given?

Also, with the suggestions of dbol, tbol, etc - will I have to run with something that reduces estrogen during the cycle, and any pct required for after?

Many thanks for all the great advice so far, it's much appreciated.

Jonny.