Nolva and gain?

[38nStrong]

I have been on nolva for 2 and a half weeks to fight some gyno I got from my current cycle. Im taking 20mg ed and feel like my size gains have slowed way down. Does anyone know if Nolva can hinder growth ?. Or is this a sub consious effect of having no water bloat? I am able to now stop taking the Nolva cause the gyno is under control. Should Ilower dose and come off slow or just stop. I still have 13 weeks of my cycle left.

 

[karter]

What is your cycle?????

 

[caliboy]

20mg isnt going to kill your gains. you got gyno syptoms in 2 weeks and got it under control in that same time frame?

 

[digit0x]

more info

 

[chimera83]

20mg should't have much of an effect on gains, especially since nova is a SERM, it wouldn't lower overall estrogen levels but simply affect the estrogen receptors.

 

[38nStrong]

my cycle is sus at 500mg/week,deca at 400/week and I got some free prop I threw in at 75mg eod. I have been running it for 7 and a half weeks. Im going to 20. I got really sore nips 3 weeks in and was told on here to use nolva for it. I did for 2 weeks and now all is well no pain no swelling. Back to normal. But I guess since I wasnt holding water I felt as if I wasnt gaining as much as before the nolva.should I just stay on it at 20 mg through out then if Im not harming my gains??????

 

[chimera83]

I really don't think that 20mg of nolva would harm your gains. Since the nolva helped to get rid of your gyno you can assume that it was estrogen related, which is a good thing in your case becuase nolva is not usually recommended when using deca. The reason why most wouldn't recommend nolva with this cycle is becuase if your gyno was caused by deca (progesterone induced) then nolva would potencially create more problems.

 

[scout69]

I don't see it hindering gains, it may be helping your bloating which in return makes u fell slightly smaller or not growing as fast, It may also be that your gains just slowed down and could have nothing to do with anything

 

[38nStrong]

I really don't think that 20mg of nolva would harm your gains. Since the nolva helped to get rid of your gyno you can assume that it was estrogen related, which is a good thing in your case becuase nolva is not usually recommended when using deca. The reason why most wouldn't recommend nolva with this cycle is becuase if your gyno was caused by deca (progesterone induced) then nolva would potencially create more problems.

I have heard that. But it did work and really well. So I agree it was the test I was having issues with. Should I stay on for the whole cycle?. When this is done I drop back to hrt dose of 250mg a week test and shouldnt need it. But I will or might for the rest of this one...

 

[chimera83]

20mg is not really that big of a dose so staying on for the remainder might not be a bad idea. You could try lowering it to 10mg and see how you feel. One question though, when did you "throw in" the prop and are you still taking it?

 

[38nStrong]

i threw in the prop at week 4 and will be on it for another week. I just threw it in cause I could. I wanted to up my test dose thats how I did it. I will be changing from sus to test e at week9 when Im off the prop at a dose f 750 a week. The deca I might stop at week 10 Im not caring for it. so I would just be on the test at 750 a week from week 9to 20. then droping to my hrt dose of 250mg/week for the next few months then cycle again with a bit more of a plan. This is a nightmare cycle.lol. Great gains so far though.lol

 

[blut wump]

In general, I'd suggest taking as little as you can. If dropping down to 10mg still works then that'd be preferable to 20mg.

Are you taking 20mg of tamoxifen or 20mg of tamixifen citrate? If on 20mg of the citrate then you're really only taking around 13 or 14 mg of nolva. Most pharma-grade nolva will state the amount of actual nolva you're getting, the UG and liquid versions will state the amount of citrate you're taking.

 

[Mr.X]

drop the nolvadex and use letrozole as a gyno cure

 

[mattrich]

drop the nolvadex and use letrozole as a gyno cure

just wandering why you would recommend letro if nolva has worked so well and he's dropping the deca in a few weeks?

 

[38nStrong]

just wandering why you would recommend letro if nolva has worked so well and he's dropping the deca in a few weeks?

Ya the Deca is out of the cycle in 2.5 weeks. Then I am switching to straight Test E at 750mg/week for 10 more weeks. I have been getting great results from the Nolva. Im not holding water and the gyno is just a memory. I think Ill continue to take the Nolva at 20mg eod. I have 20mg caps or I would go with 10mg ed. Will this work ok on a eod plan? Thanks for all your help with this everyone!

 

[needtogetaas]

just wandering why you would recommend letro if nolva has worked so well and he's dropping the deca in a few weeks?

because letro will alow for more water bloat and it works better for deca.

 

[daveyboy2345]

nolvadex has a long 1/2 life of 5-7 days so yeah eod is perfectly fine.

 

[blacksabbath1987]

nolvadex has a long 1/2 life of 5-7 days so yeah eod is perfectly fine.

i say drop your doses!!!! your running alot of gear in 1-weeks time!! with the long esters like test and deca you can get a reverse affect!!! instead of doing you good what i mean here is that the test your taking will start stacking on top of itself!!! this means when you take 750mgs of test it will not dissipate for more than 21-days!!! thats were the side affects come in play!!!!!!!!! you dont want to damage your endocrine system. block all estorgens first!!! so before you made your first shot take armidex or nolva for 2-weeks before and this will open up more free test to float around!! than to set around !!and bind to your receptors!! the key here is to keep your test freed up at all times that how we grow. throw in some testlac or even winstrol to fight of the evils of testoerone. this should save you some money and most importantly your health. lower your doses bro!!!!and spread them out!!