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no wonder iraqis hate us

I used tan at a place that was owned by an Iraqie chick----her and her whole family got the fuck out of their and came to the U.S.

I used to shoot the shit with her about Iraq-----she told me Hussian is a fucking asshole and most of the population hates him----their all just scared of him.....most would love to see a change.......

regardless of the propaganda our country spits out, the guy should be shot and forgot about...period---
 
General Iraqi history

Iraq (ee RAHK) is an Arab republic in southwestern Asia which is slightly larger than California. The country is bordered to the north by Turkey, to the west by Syria and Jordan, to the south by Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and the Persian Gulf, and to the east by Iran.

Ancient Mesopotamia, the "land between the waters," was located between the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers of Iraq. It is part of the "Fertile Crescent" and has been called by anthropologists as the "Cradle of Civilization," possibly the site of the Garden of Eden. One of the first civilizations of the world, Sumer, evolved here more than 5,000 years ago. The first Sumerians are believed to have been immigrants from the highlands of Turkey and Iran. As the area developed, migrations and invasions became more common and influenced the cultural make-up of the region. By the mid-24th century B.C., the Sumerians were overrun by the Akkadians and thus began the rising and falling of a long series of empires in the area. With the spread of iron new weapons of war were developed and the Kingdom of Ashur--or Assyrian, as it is usually called-from the northern part of this region began dominating its neighbors. After the Assyrians fell in the seventh century B.C. the Babylonians reestablished their empire in the region and they were followed by the Medes, Persians, Greeks, and Romans.

Following the seventh century A.D., Islam became entrenched in what is now Iraq. Baghdad, the capital of the Abbasid Caliphate (Islamic Empire), was the leading city of the world for five centuries and was the acknowledged leader of the Arab and Muslim world. In 1258 Baghdad was devastated by the Mongols and was later occupied by the Ottoman Turks. After World War I, the Turks were driven from the area by the British. Britain then created a mandate from three former Ottoman provinces and called this new country Al Iraq (the origin), the name formerly applied to only the southern region of the province of Basra. In 1932, Britain gave independence to this mandate and Iraq became a sovereign, independent state. However, Britain still maintained troops in Iraq and greatly influenced the government.

In 1933, Iraq's King Feisal died. His death coincided with political unrest and dissatisfaction with the government. In 1936, Iraq experienced its first attempted coup d'etat and between 1936 and 1941 there were six more abortive coup attempts. All of these attempted coups were motivated by personal goals rather than political issues. In January 1943, pro-British Iraq declared war on the World War II Axis powers (Germany, Italy, and Japan) under the terms of a treaty with Britain. In 1945 Iraq became a founding member of the League of Arab States. Postwar Iraq, however, did not regain the stature it enjoyed in the pre-World War II Arab world. After joining the United Nations (UN) in December 1945, Iraq bitterly opposed the UN partition of Palestine and in 1948 entered the war against Israel.

In 1958 King Faisal II of Iraq was executed in a coup by army officers. The leaders of the new regime declared their nation a republic committed to a foreign policy of nonalignment. Iraq's foreign policy, however, moved from a pro-West stance to one of friendly relations with the communist powers. Relations with the US were severed in 1967 after the US provided aid to Israel in the Six Day War.

The Iraqi Baath (Resurgence) Party came to power through a coup in 1968 and Saddam Hussein became the number two man in the regime. By 1976 Hussein had in reality become the power in the regime and in 1979 he took complete control. The Baath regime closely parallels those that have existed since the overthrow of King Feisal II in 1958. The Government is controlled by Sunni Arab military elements who have succeeded in avoiding commitments to a political union with other Arab states. Hussein's Baath Party dominates both military and civilian communities.

During the 1960s and 1970s Iraq had become increasingly more dependent on the former Soviet Union for military assistance. However, after the Soviets reneged on some military aid deals and provided inferior replacement equipment for war losses, the Iraqis began to improve relations with the West and decrease their dependence on the Soviets. During the late 1970s several border clashes with Iran increased tensions between the two countries. In 1979 Saddam Hussein expelled the Ayatollah Khomeini from Iraq, where he had been in exile since 1961. Removed from the seat of Shiite learning in Iraq, Khomeini vowed he would have Hussein's head brought to him on a platter. In February 1980 the Shah's caretaker's government fell and Khomeini returned to Iran via France vowing to spread the Islamic Revolution to the whole world. In September 1980, before Khomeini could consolidate his power, Iraq invaded Iran and the two countries were locked in war until September 1988, when a cease fire was agreed to, but no peace settlement has yet been achieved.

In August 1990 Iraqi troops occupied Kuwait. The United Nations passed 12 resolutions and urged Iraq to leave Kuwait by 15 January 1991, but to no avail. United States and multi-national forces were rushed into Saudi-Arabia in response to an urgent call from the rulers of Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. On 16 January 1991 the Gulf War started with thousands of bombing raids in an effort to evict Saddam Hussein and his Iraqi forces from Kuwait. On 23 February 1991 the ground war started; it ended in a US and multi-national forces victory after 100 hours fighting by ground forces. Kuwait was liberated and fighting erupted between Iraqi troops and Shiite and Kurd rebels.
 
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ha ha, true. If we were Sadam or someone as equally evil, then we could do that.

I am all for the U.S. to start drilling in untapped areas here at home, but unfortunately we have too many "pollitically correct enviromentalist tree-huggers" that stand in the way. I understand some of their concerns, but some of it is way overboard.

im just making a total guess here, but it could have something to do with our strategic oil reserves policy. whatever that is.

there is only so much oil left, and if you look at our imports id almost bet that the percentages correlate to the amount of proven crude oil reserves for any given area. or somewhat close to correlating. the theory being that if we use up oil in any one location i.e. the U.S. then eventually 40 to 50 years from now there will still be an abundance of oil in hotspots around the world i.e. saudi arabia(which has 2/3 of the worlds proven crude oil reserves) then you will see extreme demand for "thier" oil. and what kind of mess do you think we would be in then? this is just a thought.
 
Prometheus said:




as for dancing in the streets -- do a web search on VJ-Day - there are pictures of thousands of Americans dancing in the streets, confetti and flags flying, in celebration of the vaporization of 150,000 Japanese civilians. Just as the English celebrated when Hitler fell. And the East Germans danced when the Wall came down, and rightly so.


this is my thoughts and i could be wrong. the difference between americans (and the english) dancing in the streets after VJ day and the defeat of hitler and the dancing in the streets by arabs and other nationalities is that the US and england were dancing because they were GLAD THE WAR WAS OVER not the fact that 150000 japanese were vaporized. they wanted to return to what normal human beings want to do, live thier lives unobstructed and without the constant threat of warfare. when you see arabs dancing in the street after 9-11, they are doing so strictly out of hate. maybe you dont agree but i think there is a difference.
 
gymnpoppa said:
There is a clear pattern of US involvement in the creation of most of the "evil" characters today. We funded, trained, and assisted bin Laden years ago, we sold anthrax, bioweapons, and other weapons to Iraq, when Bush (41) was president. Yet NONE of this administration has had the Balls to come forward and admit that our stupid, meddling has come with a price. As a matter of a fact, they continually bombard the public with Saddam is evil crap, yet fail to own up to dumbass, murderous, covert operations which started years ago, before most of you were even born.

you are right gym and these type of situations are called blowback. but it doesn't just happen internationally. we trained lee harvey oswald, timothy mcveiw, and others probably not so well known. im sure noone expected osama to suddenly get pissed because we had troops station in saudi during the gulf war. we were given permission by saudi to do just that. who is this osama? he's no authority figure in saudi, he has no say so there. he's been thrown out. but because he thinks we are infadels occuping the holy land we should change our foriegn policy, ofcourse not. in the future do we limit our involvement in forgien lands and curtail our forgein policy based on the fact that we may have blowback one day. i dont believe so.
 
spongebob said:


you are right gym and these type of situations are called blowback. but it doesn't just happen internationally. we trained lee harvey oswald, timothy mcveiw, and others probably not so well known. im sure noone expected osama to suddenly get pissed because we had troops station in saudi during the gulf war. we were given permission by saudi to do just that. who is this osama? he's no authority figure in saudi, he has no say so there. he's been thrown out. but because he thinks we are infadels occuping the holy land we should change our foriegn policy, ofcourse not. in the future do we limit our involvement in forgien lands and curtail our forgein policy based on the fact that we may have blowback one day. i dont believe so.

Good post, if I was the type to give karma I would.
 
spongebob said:

we were given permission by saudi to do just that. who is this osama? he's no authority figure in saudi, he has no say so there. he's been thrown out. but because he thinks we are infadels occuping the holy land we should change our foriegn policy, ofcourse not. in the future do we limit our involvement in forgien lands and curtail our forgein policy based on the fact that we may have blowback one day. i dont believe so.

thats stretching it sponge. The Saudi Monarchy gave permission for US armed forces to occupy military bases in Saudi Arabia. True.

However, the ruling Saudi Monarchy is unrepresentative of the domestic populace, who only occupy a position of leadership largely because of their reliance on US economic and political 'assistence'. So theyre really no authority on the matter either.

The recent massive anti US demonstrations in Saudi Arabia, coupled with the surge in Saudi Monarchy financial support of Islamic extremist sects to prevent the overthrow of the unstable Saudi Monarchy, attest to the fact a significant portion of Saudi citizens want the US to leave Saudi Arabia.


Whats the global champion of human rights and freedoms doing supporting a corrupt undemocratic regime with a dismal human rights record anyway?
 
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spongebob said:


. in the future do we limit our involvement in forgien lands and curtail our forgein policy based on the fact that we may have blowback one day. i dont believe so.

Everyone else takes a backseat to American interests, huh?


Sponge, in case you havent noticed, that ethnocentric philosphy used to guide US foreign policy formation is the exact reason why America got itself into this mess in the first place.

Just keep on hitting urselves in the foot.
 
buddy28 said:


Everyone else takes a backseat to American interests, huh?


As an American I think this is fair. I would expect all other countries to do the same, it would be in their "best interest".
 
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