Bazl said:man, done cycles with and without test.
imo don´t even bother doing anything without test.
good luck

joedogg said:If you have ever ran a cycle without test. Please list your cycle and the effects on your libido
Stock69 said:Any reason you dont want test in your cycle? If it is side related, just use enough to keep your dick working. 250mg per week should be enough, maybe less. Post up what you are thinking about running for more info.
needtogetaas said:my first cycle ever was just Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - alone 10 weeks.I do not recommend this cycle but I was fine sex drive was fine recovery was fine and this was back in the day when I never even heard of PCT - post cycle therapy - .I got great gains from it as well.keep in mind I was 19 though and even that I do not recommend doing.
joedogg said:It is true that Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - is not as supressive as Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - Correct? I have read that EQ is only moderatly supressive. I know there will be some suppresion but is it likley I could get thru this cycle without complete shut down, and their for my jimmy will be ok?
eq is no where near as bad as deca bro..if you do the right pct you will have nothing to worry about any way.joedogg said:It is true that Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - is not as supressive as Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - Correct? I have read that EQ is only moderatly supressive. I know there will be some suppresion but is it likley I could get thru this cycle without complete shut down, and their for my jimmy will be ok?
joedogg said:Thinking about using just Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - for 12 weeks because my bro just gave me some and thats all I have. Also have enough Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - and Clomid. Actualy already did first shot, but not too late to back out now if this cycle is going to fuck my dick up. Defently cant have that. I have read thru some old threads and most who have run EQ only seem to have had no adverse sexual sides most say they experinced increased libido or no change. Any thoughts
yeah most people don't. some people think they can skip it and not have to worry about gyno, but gyno can be controlled easily.SLAYER69! said:been doing this for 15 yrs and never ran without test
st8grad said:How much are you doing per week? Can you eventually get you hands on test at some point during this run? If it only takes like 4-5 weeks to get some test then it wouldn't be nearly as bad. Plus you ideally want to run the boldenone for 16+ weeks. So if you got 10 weeks of test starting around week 5 or 6 then you would have and ideal 2/3 of a cycle.
Again my question about how much are you running per week to see if you have enough to stretch it out to 16 weeks instead of 12.
Another option is to run Dermacrine and Unleased with it if you can't get test. Maybe it is enough to not need exogenous testosterone. But then again maybe it wouldn't be enough.
joedogg said:I have enough to run 400mg per week for 12 weeks, so I dont think i can streach it to 16, Dont think I can get my hands on any test right now but will look in to it. This would be first cycle (already done first shot but could back out if not wise to continue). I was also thinking that Demacrine or unleashed might be enough to keep libido good because it is such a lite cycle. Diet and training are in check and would be very pleased with maybe 8-10lbs with good hard cut look. If you were me would you continue or just stop and go back to all natural.
joedogg said:I have enough to run 400mg per week for 12 weeks, so I dont think i can streach it to 16, Dont think I can get my hands on any test right now but will look in to it. This would be first cycle (already done first shot but could back out if not wise to continue). I was also thinking that Demacrine or unleashed might be enough to keep libido good because it is such a lite cycle. Diet and training are in check and would be very pleased with maybe 8-10lbs with good hard cut look. If you were me would you continue or just stop and go back to all natural.
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