After checking me email I figure I'd come here and find tons of discussions about them but I see nothing. In case nobody know he's got liver support, post cycle, and a joint support up. I do have a couple of questions for you needto. Why are these new products called Forged? That name sounds familiar as it was the name of another supplement company but I could be wrong. Also, I thought you were adding some other test booster, I forget the name, that only you had found the rights to....they look good but I'm torn between these products and protein factorys....