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No Good: Post Office May Require ID to SEND Mail

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This, if approved, will FOREVER change the anonymous sending of letters and packages! (thanks to Bigeasy of www.chemicalmuscle.com for the alert)

Post office proposes requiring ID on mail
Regulation offered in response to anthrax scare

Sunday, October 26, 2003 Posted: 8:12 PM EST (0112 GMT)


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The U.S. Postal Service is taking a first step toward requiring all senders of mail to identify themselves, a move prompted by the anthrax scare two years ago this month.

Five people died of anthrax infection and 13 others became sick when an unknown person or persons sent several U.S. senators and media organizations envelopes containing the deadly toxin.

As a first step, the Postal Service has proposed a regulation that would require sender identification of discount-rate mail.

That includes first-class mail, periodicals, standard mail or package-services mailing eligible for any discounted postage rate.

Printed in the Federal Register on October 21, the revision of the Domestic Mail Manual is open for public comment until November 20.

"Sender identification of all discount mailings would serve as a tool in identifying the senders of a large portion of the mailstream. It could also facilitate investigations into the origin of suspicious mail," the proposal said.

The Postal Service said two congressional committees urged it to "explore the concept of sender identification, including the feasibility of using unique, traceable identifiers" -- something likely to draw criticism from privacy advocates.

The President's Commission on the U.S. Postal Service also recommended the use of sender identification recently "for every piece of mail."

Its report, sent to President Bush in late July, said "requiring sender-identification for discount-rate mail is an initial step on the road to intelligent mail."

The report said "intelligent mail" could allow mail tracking and "significantly improve mail security through enhanced traceability."

Because many discount mailings already meet that requirement, the Postal Service said its proposed rule would have little effect on most of these mailers.

Others, however, may have to change their procedures to comply with slightly tighter requirements.
 
what a bunch of bullshit. Intelligent Mail. Why don't they look for Intelligent People for government. they are just so stupid that is almost funny.
 
so does that mean mailboxes will be gone and everything goes throught the post office? They are just so stupid. Everything the govenment touches turns into a big pile of steaming shit. haven't they figured that out yet.
 
The Terminator said:
"That includes first-class mail, periodicals, standard mail or package-services mailing eligible for any discounted postage rate."


Does this include Priority Mail as well... :confused: :(

this is acually a good question

they didtn say anything about express and priority
 
pretty pathetic for the 'land of the free'... lmfao the land of the free!
 
"The President's Commission on the U.S. Postal Service also recommended the use of sender identification recently 'for every piece of mail."


This is the main worry really... just another foot in the door type of thing
 
one step at a time we are turning into a police state...........

whats sucks is that AMERICA is still a great place to be, but I don' like where we are headed...............
 
macrophage69alpha said:
this is only in reference to "bulk" mailers.

this will be very unlikely (in this format) to affect you.
Really. Guys read the whole thing before you get your underwear all in a bunch.

I imagine the idea would be to prevent mass mailings of Anthrax like mail.
So unless you send mail in the thousands at a time, don't get all concerned.
 
it doesnt affect us, unless anyone is sending gear out so frequently, they gett a discount on the postage from the govt.
 
stonecold54 said:
so does that mean mailboxes will be gone and everything goes throught the post office? They are just so stupid. Everything the govenment touches turns into a big pile of steaming shit. haven't they figured that out yet.

It only applies to senders not receivers
 
It's so stupid.

If a guy is planning on sending anthrax or a bomb; he was able to get deadly bacteria strains, explosives...but he would have trouble getting a fake ID?!?!?
 
I'm not sure that needing a drivers license is all that's going to be required here:

""Sender identification of all discount mailings would serve as a tool in identifying the senders of a large portion of the mailstream. It could also facilitate investigations into the origin of suspicious mail," the proposal said.

The Postal Service said two congressional committees urged it to "explore the concept of sender identification, including the feasibility of using unique, traceable identifiers" -- something likely to draw criticism from privacy advocates.


Maybe in the end it will, but at least it gives the appearance that they're trying to do something.
 
This is about as stupid as the waiting peroid on handguns...did it keep criminals from purchaseing handguns? absolutely not!!!!!


RADAR
 
BigAndy69 said:
It's so stupid.

If a guy is planning on sending anthrax or a bomb; he was able to get deadly bacteria strains, explosives...but he would have trouble getting a fake ID?!?!?

:o No doubt.
 
genarr3 said:

Really. Guys read the whole thing before you get your underwear all in a bunch.

I imagine the idea would be to prevent mass mailings of Anthrax like mail.
So unless you send mail in the thousands at a time, don't get all concerned.
Well, not at this time anyway. Sure is a step closer though, eh?
 
Terrorists are going to adapt to all these "security" measures we put in place. It wouldn't be unrealistic to see an established US citizen working as an operative for Al Qaeda. Terrorists don't necessarily have to be illegal immigrants from the Middle East with all sorts of other red flags raised.
 
BigAndy69 said:
It's so stupid.

If a guy is planning on sending anthrax or a bomb; he was able to get deadly bacteria strains, explosives...but he would have trouble getting a fake ID?!?!?


That's why I feel that this is just a public reason, the true motives being different....and why I worry that it may go further.
 
RADAR said:
This is about as stupid as the waiting peroid on handguns...did it keep criminals from purchaseing handguns? absolutely not!!!!!


RADAR


so true. wait ur 3 days and kill someone next week :rolleyes: instead this week
 
For every citizen there are about 6 letters sent, so for a country like the US that is 1.5 billion letters per day. Oh well, the unemployment problem will be solved, and stamps will cost $ 5.

And Western Europe is far less a police state than the US.
 
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