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medical said:
No he was not. Not even in the top 10. The first time he fought someone he couldn't knock out with one punch he lost.....and lost every time. Any decent fighter could kill Tyson: there just weren't any decent fighters when he was in his 20's.
dude shut the fuck up. u obviously know shit about boxing and tyson. like i said shut your hole and go to bed. do a search on youtube for his amateur fights and u will see him knockin bitches out like u in seconds w/ no effort! :chomp:
 
hanibal said:
dude shut the fuck up. u obviously know shit about boxing and tyson. like i said shut your hole and go to bed. do a search on youtube for his amateur fights and u will see him knockin bitches out like u in seconds w/ no effort! :chomp:
I was an adult fight fan when Tyson was champ.......you got it right: he was knocking out bitches. Any real fighter would (and did!) clean his clock. The Legend of Iron Mike Tyson.......one of the great myths of the 20th century!
 
medical said:
No he was not. Not even in the top 10. The first time he fought someone he couldn't knock out with one punch he lost.....and lost every time. Any decent fighter could kill Tyson: there just weren't any decent fighters when he was in his 20's.
If you want to make to point that he was npt a great technical box, I can follow that - but he wasn't a chump. In his heyday he was great.
 
medical said:
I was an adult fight fan when Tyson was champ.......you got it right: he was knocking out bitches. Any real fighter would (and did!) clean his clock. The Legend of Iron Mike Tyson.......one of the great myths of the 20th century!
damn i'd like 2 c u go in the ring with these so called bitches
 
Tyson was a fast, hard hitting, accurate punching, boxer with an iron jaw. His impressive armor had it's flaws though: short reach, lack of stamina, and inability to fight from a clinch come to mind. He could clean anyones clock if they weren't on their A game, Michael Spinx, Larry Holmes, and many other quality boxers can attest to that.
 
Jacob Creutzfeldt said:
Tyson was a fast, hard hitting, accurate punching, boxer with an iron jaw. His impressive armor had it's flaws though: short reach, lack of stamina, and inability to fight from a clinch come to mind. He could clean anyones clock if they weren't on their A game, Michael Spinx, Larry Holmes, and many other quality boxers can attest to that.
arms short yes, lack of stamina, i disagree, ive seen training videos, he'll run forever and do 100 situps easily with a 45 plata on his chest, not only a hard puncher, QUICK puncher, could knock u out with any punch, IRON JAW, he is the hardest hitter but dont let that make u think we couldn't quality box, it got overshadowed cuz he crushed everyone
 
You guys do also realize that a hard training and fairly active fighter probably reaches his prime in his late 20's. When watching Tysons first fights, you can see the rapid improvement from fight to fight. Then after Don King comes into the picture,Cus had died, and Kevin Rooney had been fired, you can see the technique slowly get more and more sloppy in reverse order. He stopped paying attention to defense. He stopped focusing as much on body work, and putting quality combinations together and became more of a head hunter. He bought the bullshit everyone was saying, fell into the "I'm the baddest man on the planet" slogan, and just told himself that if he went in there and swung as hard as he could at the guy's head over and over that eventually the fight would be over. This is not the fighter that Mike was originally trained to be. If the guy woulda continued to hone his skills and receive and accept the type of training and instruction he did from his teens, then by the age of 26, we would've seen a fighter who was twice as good as even the one we saw at age 21. It's almost unimaginable to think about what he woulda looked like in a true prime, but sadly, we never saw one, and therfore people who say the things about him not being a top 10 heavyweight, and list all of the "flaws" that they now see so clearly in hindsight can never be proven wrong. I know it's impossible, but if there was someway we could have Tyson in his true prime along with all the other fighters from all time in their's, then I'd put my soul on the line in a match between him and any of them. Nobody would come close to beating him.
 
JumpBallWinner said:
You guys do also realize that a hard training and fairly active fighter probably reaches his prime in his late 20's. When watching Tysons first fights, you can see the rapid improvement from fight to fight. Then after Don King comes into the picture,Cus had died, and Kevin Rooney had been fired, you can see the technique slowly get more and more sloppy in reverse order. He stopped paying attention to defense. He stopped focusing as much on body work, and putting quality combinations together and became more of a head hunter. He bought the bullshit everyone was saying, fell into the "I'm the baddest man on the planet" slogan, and just told himself that if he went in there and swung as hard as he could at the guy's head over and over that eventually the fight would be over. This is not the fighter that Mike was originally trained to be. If the guy woulda continued to hone his skills and receive and accept the type of training and instruction he did from his teens, then by the age of 26, we would've seen a fighter who was twice as good as even the one we saw at age 21. It's almost unimaginable to think about what he woulda looked like in a true prime, but sadly, we never saw one, and therfore people who say the things about him not being a top 10 heavyweight, and list all of the "flaws" that they now see so clearly in hindsight can never be proven wrong. I know it's impossible, but if there was someway we could have Tyson in his true prime along with all the other fighters from all time in their's, then I'd put my soul on the line in a match between him and any of them. Nobody would come close to beating him.

You slam the retrospect method of analyzing flaws and promote creating some hypothetical heavyweight tournament where all enviornmental factors are optimized for Tyson then dub him the greatest? I don't see that as a more accurate assessment of ability. Of course you can only analyze someone's flaws in hindsight. You have to see the guy fight before you can analyze his strengths and weaknesses. It's no less accurate than peering into a parallel universe where Tyson has every advantage. Certainly we hindsight analysts can be proven wrong if you want to try. Just watch his fights and find situations where our analysis does not hold true.

All great boxers throughout history fought through adversity both in and out of the ring. You're admitting Tyson failed to maximize his potential against adversity. That's why many consider him just outside the perimeter of greatness.
 
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