Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below The phrase really is true when it comes to girls. I mean, I'm in college and I always treat girls with respect. I guess thats a free pass to the "just friends" zone. I dunno, I'm not one of those jerks that is looking for a one night stand. I'm actually saving myself for marriage. I'm just looking for a good girl to actually have a relationship with. It just seems like all the girls I know are infatuated with idiots. I'll never understand why girls like jackasses. Anyone else out there finishing last?
Nice guys finish last...
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U will get over treating them nice after sexual frustration wins. its like a vampires thirst for blood bro. Eventually it always wins.
Unfortunate but true, lots of girls out there with very bad self image and esteem problems that look for abusive relationships and dont know it
Unfortunate but true, lots of girls out there with very bad self image and esteem problems that look for abusive relationships and dont know it
I have a different theory on why nice guys lose and jerks get the girl.
One thing about nice guys is that they are usually "genuinely" nice, but not always. When I say "genuine", I mean truly self-less and charitable (if you're Christian, think Jesus-like). However, when they meet a girl that they like or find attractive, they will be extra nice, but with the intention/hope/wish of the girl liking him for his kindness. So it's no longer doing something nice for the sake of doing something good, but for the sake of possible hanky panky. "Nice" guys will go to extreme lengths to make this girl happy, and there's nothing wrong with doing that. But more often than not, it's not truly genuine. I base that on the fact that guys will complain about some girl not like him that way even though he did lots of things for her.
The reason why girls like jerks (it's not the absolute truth, but it's somewhat true) is NOT because they're jerks, but because jerks have characteristics that are attractive to women (i.e. confidence) which "nice" guys don't have around girls they're interested in. Jerks aren't afraid to tell a girl what he really thinks whereas a "nice" guy will sometimes hold back and not say the truth.
The jerks also tend to be more of a challenge in a relationship, whereas a "nice" guy will declare his love from the moment they meet and put her on a pedastal asap. That's where that other cliche comes into play, "the ones you want, you can't have, and the ones you can have, you don't want."
And in closing, I've noticed this Catch-22 about nice guys. "Nice guys" are usually great friends and great husbands, but they tend to be lousy boyfriends. And if you can't be a great boyfriend, it's almost impossible to become the great husband (assuming you're looking for marriage), and thus the "friend zone" is as far as you'll ever get with the girl of your dreams.
Kancho
One thing about nice guys is that they are usually "genuinely" nice, but not always. When I say "genuine", I mean truly self-less and charitable (if you're Christian, think Jesus-like). However, when they meet a girl that they like or find attractive, they will be extra nice, but with the intention/hope/wish of the girl liking him for his kindness. So it's no longer doing something nice for the sake of doing something good, but for the sake of possible hanky panky. "Nice" guys will go to extreme lengths to make this girl happy, and there's nothing wrong with doing that. But more often than not, it's not truly genuine. I base that on the fact that guys will complain about some girl not like him that way even though he did lots of things for her.
The reason why girls like jerks (it's not the absolute truth, but it's somewhat true) is NOT because they're jerks, but because jerks have characteristics that are attractive to women (i.e. confidence) which "nice" guys don't have around girls they're interested in. Jerks aren't afraid to tell a girl what he really thinks whereas a "nice" guy will sometimes hold back and not say the truth.
The jerks also tend to be more of a challenge in a relationship, whereas a "nice" guy will declare his love from the moment they meet and put her on a pedastal asap. That's where that other cliche comes into play, "the ones you want, you can't have, and the ones you can have, you don't want."
And in closing, I've noticed this Catch-22 about nice guys. "Nice guys" are usually great friends and great husbands, but they tend to be lousy boyfriends. And if you can't be a great boyfriend, it's almost impossible to become the great husband (assuming you're looking for marriage), and thus the "friend zone" is as far as you'll ever get with the girl of your dreams.
Kancho
jdevlin1985
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It’s amazing that us assholes can get girls. Actually, now that I think of it, it’s not that amazing. I am an asshole at heart, but to meet girls you have to lavish your undying love. IT’S A CHARADE. Act nice, friendly, and they listen… until they get into what we're after. Our prey thinks we are in love with them, however when they realize what assholes us predators really are, they pretend like us assholes are really nice inside. The girl then tries to change us assholes into a nice guy, but us assholes will always be assholes. She gets upset and goes to the ''nice guy'' to complain about us assholes. But she claims to love the asshole… now this is where the theory begins. She doesn’t want to look like she is easy so she wont dump the asshole right away, instead she will stay with the asshole. They look at the nice guy as a friend, a trusted companion to whom they can tell their sad story to about their asshole boyfriend. Girls are idiots!!!!
bigtasty25
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girls need to read some dating books just like lots of guys will invest in dating women books so they know how to go about doing it right...fact is most girls dont read that shit to get into the male psyche...but hey, thats their problem and they deserve what they get pretty much, same with the "nice sweet" guy...
wulfgar is dead on with the 'sexual frustration always wins" comment...ive been there and now im being a jerk and all manly/aggressive with women and guess what? they love it, curse at it, but keep coming back for more. they call me cocky, conceited, ruthless, smartass, but hey...they love my body...my personality..and keep coming back for more..explain that LOL..its pretty simple...a man is supposed to be aggressive..manly..and himself...but he should have that nice/sweet guy side WHEN its needed, its good to switch back and forth between the sweet guy and the ruthless bad boy type...this is what will trigger the attraction (mostly the bad boy type...but she wants to know ure nice too)...once u get down what a girl REALLY wants in a guy...its almost too easy to get any girl you want...and im dead serious...
its so simple it can be summed up like this...go back to caveman days...a girl wants an aggressive manly guy who stands up for her, is confident, assertive, stands up TO her, get's what he wants, ie persuasive, etc etc...and is nice/sweet on top of that...a guy wants a female that has a pussy , nice bod/face/tits
and thats it, when it comes to fucking
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wulfgar is dead on with the 'sexual frustration always wins" comment...ive been there and now im being a jerk and all manly/aggressive with women and guess what? they love it, curse at it, but keep coming back for more. they call me cocky, conceited, ruthless, smartass, but hey...they love my body...my personality..and keep coming back for more..explain that LOL..its pretty simple...a man is supposed to be aggressive..manly..and himself...but he should have that nice/sweet guy side WHEN its needed, its good to switch back and forth between the sweet guy and the ruthless bad boy type...this is what will trigger the attraction (mostly the bad boy type...but she wants to know ure nice too)...once u get down what a girl REALLY wants in a guy...its almost too easy to get any girl you want...and im dead serious...
its so simple it can be summed up like this...go back to caveman days...a girl wants an aggressive manly guy who stands up for her, is confident, assertive, stands up TO her, get's what he wants, ie persuasive, etc etc...and is nice/sweet on top of that...a guy wants a female that has a pussy , nice bod/face/tits
and thats it, when it comes to fucking
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Rabid_Goose
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I'm a real nice guy, but at the same time a major league asshole. I laughed when it said bad boys are always liked and told my wife that isn't true. I didn't think I was a bad boy but she said I am in the way I have that "I don't care attitude." I let everything slide, big dinner bill? Most of the time I shrug it off like it's not a problem, in my mind money is nothing. Just have that care free attitude and make her laugh, a lot. That's really all I had, I defintly didn't have looks swinging my way, it was my sense of humor that won her over in the end.
Treat her like a friend you've known for years, kick backed, relax and just wanting to have fun. And take some prozack, that might help too.
Treat her like a friend you've known for years, kick backed, relax and just wanting to have fun. And take some prozack, that might help too.
MassDestruction
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Women are all psycho. Just dont believe too much they say and dont let them have their way.
Hard-Bitten
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Trav386 said:
I don't think nice guys finished last.
I believe that dumb/overly passive shy/wallflower guys finished last.
Describe nice guys they finished last typically because they don't have enough confidence or courage to do the things that ' bad boys ' would do.
girls are not attractive ' jackasses' girls are attractive guy who have BALLS .. bravery and able to handle simple conversation..
McFakerton
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God, isn't that the truth. I've got a few that pretty openly want me, but I have no desire to be with, but the ones I want just never seem to work out.
megamania500
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Hard-Bitten said:
^^^^^^^There you go, everyone. Straight from a woman's mouth and mind. Simply put: act shy, submissive, and passive and a girl will have NO interest in you whatsoever. Why? Because when you put a girl on a pedestal, she sees you as being "beneath" her socially, and she loses respect for you. C'mon, lets face it. Would you have respect for someone who would go out of their way to kiss your ass? And no woman is going to have passionate desires for any man they don't respect.
A bad boy, on the other hand, doesn't care what she thinks about him. If she doesn't like him, he's confident enough to know that he will find someone who does. This confidence can take a man far in a woman's eyes. He challenges her opinions, doesn't kiss her ass, isn't afraid to tease her, and makes her laugh. He comes off as being interesting, while a "nice guy" comes off as boring. A "bad boy" comes off as being an alpha male, someone who takes charge. And in the animal kingdom, this is the attributes that a woman unconsiously notices in a man when deciding whether or not she wants him. Why? From a biological standpoint, it means that the offspring will have these same attributes and have a better chance of survival. Don't think for a second that humans haven't lost this instinct within them.
Plus, the typical "nice guy" will lavish a woman with flowers, dinner, compliments, and all this other stuff that basically comes down to being defined as "courtship rituals". When he does this, who is really in control? Him? Definitely not! By doing all this stuff, he is saying, "I like you. Pick me to be with you!". So who is in control? She is. It is HER decision whether or not she wants to pursue the relationship. He just has to wait it out, hoping she'll choose to be with him while he continuously tries to win her over. But from the beginning, she is in control and she KNOWS IT.
But you get a "bad boy" out there and his attitude comes off as saying, "I set my own standards. Maybe I want you, maybe I don't. Let me see if you are up to my standards before I choose you. If you have no interest in me, fine. I will just move on to the next woman who I think may be up to my standards." Now HE is in control of who he chooses. Women find this confidence very appealing. And for some women, they just automatically have to prove to themselves that they are up to his standards. So with this, a woman develops an interest in the guy. This interest will NEVER be shown to a "nice guy" type of man, because he doesn't create it in the woman. On top of that, the woman finds the guy fun to be around because of his confidence. She feels great around him. And to a woman, a man who can create these feelings in her are as attractive to them as physical beauty is to us men. Then on top of that, even, something in a woman kicks in about how she wants to change him, to "tame" him. Add all this together, and you can see why a woman prefers a "bad boy" to a "nice guy".
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T-Matt
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You guys need to read some David Deangelo.. Cocky + Funny= You getting some ass.. Simple as that fellas..
I am a gentleman and I get all the ass I can handle.. Women test you.. if you don't pass the test, they move on to the next guy who can keep them on their toes..
It's like this.. let's say you're kind of semi dating a woman and she's having her period and shit and she calls you and asks for you to bring her by some chocolate.. A lot of guys would be like "Ok, here's my chance to prove that I'm a good guy." You'll go and get her some chocolate and bring it by and she'll be acting all happy and shit and you think everything is fine and dandy.. Your dumbass will call her like 3 times the next day to ask her how she's doing and to ultimately see if your kind gesture paid off.. Too bad so sad b/c she's already on to the next guy, you're in the friend zone buddy.. So, what do you do? She asks you to bring buy some chocolate but you, instead tell her that you're sorry she feels bad but you are too busy and cannot leave what you are doing.. Here's the catch.. A few days later you call her and you set up a date with her and you bring her chocolate THEN.. That just says all the right things to a woman.. it says A) I have my own life B) I'm not desperate C) I'm thoughtful D) I'm genuine E) i'm not a fucking pussy who beckons to your every call..
Being a gentleman means that you open doors for every woman.. EVen if you're with your woman you still open the door for other ladies.. You treat your server (if you go out) with upmost respect, you make it a point to poke your head into the kitchen and thank the cooks for the excellent cooking (if the cooks are good).. hell, you know what i do? Fuck, if I go out on a dinner date with a girl I'll tell one of my friends to call me at a certain time during the date when I know we'll be in the middle of eating.. The phone will ring and I'll say to my date "Hold on for a second." I'll answer the phone "Hey.. Yeah yeah.. Hey, can I call you back? I'm with someone important right now." Shit, that's not being a pussy, that's fucking being a real man, a gentleman.. You know what? if I get another unexpected call, I'll say the same thing..
Just think if you were an attractive girl.. think how fucking boring life would be having every fucking guy walk up to you with the same bull shit "Eh ma, was good, you be lookin fine like whoa babygirl, know what i saying" Fuck that.. I'd probably end up pulling all my hair out of I was a woman.. Or shit, think about all the dumb ass older wealthy dudes.. "ummm, hi.. I like umm.. know you're like.. incredibly beautiful.. and you'd probably NEVER go out with a guy like me.. but, i promise.. i'm like a genuinely nice guy.. I won't cheat on you.. Would you like go out with me to eat Friday night?" I mean fuck I think 300mg of test cypionate just leaked out of my fucking fingers for typing that shit, grow some fucking balls man!!!!
It is a MAN'S job to learn how to attract a female.. It's not a female's job to learn the male psyche, fuck that.. They know what they want in a man, they just can't find a man to make them feel that gut level attraction..
Man up and learn how to give a woman what she really wants..
T-Matt
I am a gentleman and I get all the ass I can handle.. Women test you.. if you don't pass the test, they move on to the next guy who can keep them on their toes..
It's like this.. let's say you're kind of semi dating a woman and she's having her period and shit and she calls you and asks for you to bring her by some chocolate.. A lot of guys would be like "Ok, here's my chance to prove that I'm a good guy." You'll go and get her some chocolate and bring it by and she'll be acting all happy and shit and you think everything is fine and dandy.. Your dumbass will call her like 3 times the next day to ask her how she's doing and to ultimately see if your kind gesture paid off.. Too bad so sad b/c she's already on to the next guy, you're in the friend zone buddy.. So, what do you do? She asks you to bring buy some chocolate but you, instead tell her that you're sorry she feels bad but you are too busy and cannot leave what you are doing.. Here's the catch.. A few days later you call her and you set up a date with her and you bring her chocolate THEN.. That just says all the right things to a woman.. it says A) I have my own life B) I'm not desperate C) I'm thoughtful D) I'm genuine E) i'm not a fucking pussy who beckons to your every call..
Being a gentleman means that you open doors for every woman.. EVen if you're with your woman you still open the door for other ladies.. You treat your server (if you go out) with upmost respect, you make it a point to poke your head into the kitchen and thank the cooks for the excellent cooking (if the cooks are good).. hell, you know what i do? Fuck, if I go out on a dinner date with a girl I'll tell one of my friends to call me at a certain time during the date when I know we'll be in the middle of eating.. The phone will ring and I'll say to my date "Hold on for a second." I'll answer the phone "Hey.. Yeah yeah.. Hey, can I call you back? I'm with someone important right now." Shit, that's not being a pussy, that's fucking being a real man, a gentleman.. You know what? if I get another unexpected call, I'll say the same thing..
Just think if you were an attractive girl.. think how fucking boring life would be having every fucking guy walk up to you with the same bull shit "Eh ma, was good, you be lookin fine like whoa babygirl, know what i saying" Fuck that.. I'd probably end up pulling all my hair out of I was a woman.. Or shit, think about all the dumb ass older wealthy dudes.. "ummm, hi.. I like umm.. know you're like.. incredibly beautiful.. and you'd probably NEVER go out with a guy like me.. but, i promise.. i'm like a genuinely nice guy.. I won't cheat on you.. Would you like go out with me to eat Friday night?" I mean fuck I think 300mg of test cypionate just leaked out of my fucking fingers for typing that shit, grow some fucking balls man!!!!
It is a MAN'S job to learn how to attract a female.. It's not a female's job to learn the male psyche, fuck that.. They know what they want in a man, they just can't find a man to make them feel that gut level attraction..
Man up and learn how to give a woman what she really wants..
T-Matt
truckdaddy
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its so true....i learned that a long time ago.
Trav386 said:
a girl would rather be with a guy who looks good, is a badass, has 2 other kids and is on drugs and cheats on her than a guy that is nice and does things for her. its because girls are emotional creatures and would rather be taken on a roller coaster ride then treated well. they like havin that sick feeling in their stomach when theyre with a guy, always worrying about what hes doin and shit and feelin like she has to work for him or change him. its fun to them.
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heatherrae
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KC Kancho said:
^^^^
I completely agree. I have had some "nice guys" who automatically think that they are in love about a minute after meeting someone. They profess how much they care for you and kiss your ass, but none of it feels genuine. They lavish you with compliments, gifts, etc but they do so because they are in love with some fantasy of who you are instead of who you really are. It's too soon and there is an element of "quid pro quo" to the situation. The guy thinks, "Okay, so I have complimented you, been a shoulder to cry on, etc. Now you owe me. You are required to love me romantically." There is always this feeling of tension. It is very difficult to fall in love with someone when you have this huge pressure on you to fall in love.
I have never gone for "bad boys." I have always gone for the "nice guys." I'm just saying that sometimes the nice guys are not as genuinely nice as they profess to be.
Also, I dated one "nice guy" who was so sensitive that he was always crying and whimpering about where the relationship was going. It was CONSTANT! All that whimpering was so damned annoying. He needed to grow some balls and have some fun.
There is a difference between being a nice guy and being a doormat or a whimpering pansy. Also there is a difference in being a genuine nice guy and a guy trying to buy love with good deeds. I love genuinely nice guys.
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T-Matt
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HeatherRae said:
And I have no idea why guys can't understand this!!!! As complicated as women can be, this is a simple concept!
I appreciate your post, as, it only confirms what I already knew.. I just have a no-bullshit approach to explaining women to other men..
T-Matt
milo hobgoblin
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"I'm actually saving myself for marriage."
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CrazyRussian
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I'd just like to say god bless you guys and lots of yall are right.
Gentlemen, what do young hot bitches want? What gets their attention? Do they want romance, long conversation, commitment, and snuggling? NOOO. They want drugs, parties, fucking, doing illegal shit, etc. It just comes down to interest level. Nice guys are not INTERESTING. I wouldn't want to hang out with, much less be in a relationship with, some girl who never did anything and just sat around and wrote me poems, even if she worshipped my ass.
``Personal story time`` = i consider myself a nice guy and cerebral, too...let shit get to my head a lot. But I try to make up for it by doing crazy shit like randomly visiting the girlfriend at 2 in the morning, going to crazy ass places, doing random ass shit. That way, you can still be nice/caring/respectful but still keep her interest level high enough to date you. So I contend that you don't need to be a full jackass, just have a WILD SIDE to you that's not afraid to come out. In Freudian terms, more ID, less EGO.
Thats just one mans opinion, tho
Gentlemen, what do young hot bitches want? What gets their attention? Do they want romance, long conversation, commitment, and snuggling? NOOO. They want drugs, parties, fucking, doing illegal shit, etc. It just comes down to interest level. Nice guys are not INTERESTING. I wouldn't want to hang out with, much less be in a relationship with, some girl who never did anything and just sat around and wrote me poems, even if she worshipped my ass.
``Personal story time`` = i consider myself a nice guy and cerebral, too...let shit get to my head a lot. But I try to make up for it by doing crazy shit like randomly visiting the girlfriend at 2 in the morning, going to crazy ass places, doing random ass shit. That way, you can still be nice/caring/respectful but still keep her interest level high enough to date you. So I contend that you don't need to be a full jackass, just have a WILD SIDE to you that's not afraid to come out. In Freudian terms, more ID, less EGO.
Thats just one mans opinion, tho
Subzeero
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the bottom line to all these excellent points, especially by HeatherRae, *wink* *wink*, is HONESTY. Or in other terms, to be honestly yourself. Because no matter how hard a guy tries, a girl needs just a milisecond of eyecontact to spill all your guts out infront of her.
Be honest and respect yourself. Its okay if you don't get girls. There are more important and joyful things in life.
The moment you start feeling happy and comfortable, all alone just by yourself, that moment your life will turn around.
Be honest and respect yourself. Its okay if you don't get girls. There are more important and joyful things in life.
The moment you start feeling happy and comfortable, all alone just by yourself, that moment your life will turn around.
muscleboundman
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Trav386 said:
Bro - ur way over thinking this shit. Girls don't go to college to get married. They go to have a good fuckin time. Sure they'd like to meet someone before they leave to get married, but that's not their primary desire.
ur smart to wait for sex until ur married. i started in jr high school, and trust me having slept with hundreds of women maybe didn't cause me to be divorced twice but it sure didn't fuckin help...
Bottom line, is another old saying "girls just wanna have fun", u can do that even if ur cool to not makin a hoe of yourself. if u can't show a woman a good time anywhere but the bedroom, then ur relationiships/marriage ain't gonna last very long anyway.
i figure u already know not to be a suck ass pansy so i won't go there. if u r then previous post are right, that won't get u a woman period. but u don't have to be a asshole either, just don't be so damn serious about ur life before ur freakin 25. ur a kid, have some damn fun...but seriously u don't have to be a whore to have fun.
Bretmj1
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Trav386 said:
Hey man, it comes with time, and honestly - not assuming anything - but in all reality is has to do with personality and looks. Girls love guys that can sweep them off their feet with their unbelieveable charm, or guys that strike them as intriguing because they're 'different'. I treat girls with respect, but I have a heck of alot of personality for them to deal with, probably too much, and the girls dont stop coming. Its a matter of experience too, put yourself out there, dont 'change' and try acting like a dick, that wont work. You'll get a good girl, just dont have expectations, put yourself out there. Obviously there is something other guys got and you dont, so figure it out and make yourself better. There isn't any advice that we can give you that will literally help your chances, its all in your head buddy!
blueta2
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flex229 said:
SO not true! We do not view nice guys as weak. Women view men who behave like boys as weak. Be a "man" and a nice guy and I bet the women come flocking.
Also let me say, younger women are more into the "bad boys". Older women have "been there and done that" and have zero tolerance for aholes anymore. So nice guys finish first ;-)
Women only marry the nice guys when they get done "sewing their oats" with the "bad boys"... Guys are trying to make sure that all these women "sew their oats" with them. So if a nice guy has to act like a prick in his early to late 20s so he can land a few hotties to bone, more power to him. Then when he gets tired of all that and wants to settle down, he acts like his true nice self and gets married.
Bretmj1
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Its as simple as this: I don't believe in having to 'act' or having any 'game', girls like guys, and can tell when guys are being themselves, so be yourself. If you've heard you need to act a certain way to get chicks and actually believe it, then you're a nimrod Theres all sorts of sites that can help you out, but in all honesty, theres nothing you can read or do that can afford you to get women. You have to be yourself, and if the girl doesnt like you then obviously you'll find better, you'll get one someday and it will be worth the wait. If you absolutely feel like you need one now then you're impatient and good luck, but desperation will never get you anywhere!
Theres all sorts of sites that can help you out, but in all honesty, theres nothing you can read or do that can afford you to get women. You have to be yourself, and if the girl doesnt like you then obviously you'll find better, you'll get one someday and it will be worth the wait. If you absolutely feel like you need one now then you're impatient and good luck, but desperation will never get you anywhere!
blueta2
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Bretmj1 said:Its as simple as this: I don't believe in having to 'act' or having any 'game', girls like guys, and can tell when guys are being themselves, so be yourself. If you've heard you need to act a certain way to get chicks and actually believe it, then you're a nimrod
great answer
maxspeed96ct
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Im a pritty nice guy and i never realy finish last, but i kinda understand what you mean, I've met girls before that have had these looser boyfriends who would cheat on them (and get cought ) , hit them etc, the hole 9 yards....
But then the chicks would stay with them , say things like " but i care about him "and bla bal bla, im like WTF???
But then the chicks would stay with them , say things like " but i care about him "and bla bal bla, im like WTF???
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