Next cycle

[needleboy]

Posted this before. Here's what I'm planning, but I really need to cut!!

Heres what I'm thinking. Constructive advice truly needed!

Test- 800mg/wk wks 1 & 2
Eq- 1000mg/wk week 1 & 2
Test- 400mg/wk wks 3-14
Eq- 500mg/wk wks 3-14
Deca- 300mg/wk 1-14
Fina- 75mg/ED- wks 9-16
Winny- 50 mg/day wks 9-16
OX- 40 mg/day wks 9-16

Armidex- .25 mg/day
Clomid starting 4 days past last Fina shot.
BTW- stats now are 6'2" 227lbs 9.5% bf

SHOULD I ADD T-3 AND CLEN???


ANY SUGGESTIONS, WANT/NEED TO GET TO AROUND 5%

Also kicking around the idea of using DNP!



PS- XBIKER- NO MORE MIGUEL'S, FROM NOW ON WE HIT EVO'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[BIGRICH]

Why are you going to take Deca and EQ. Aren't they similar.

 

[genarr3]

Why are you going to take Deca and EQ. Aren't they similar.

Yea, I know alot of people think it's one or the other. But I know people that have done Deca & Eq only cycles and loved them. I'm planning one myself.

 

[MUSTANG_18]

Great cycle my friend....Deca and Eq together are awesome so leave it as is. If you use DNP then post cycle during Clomid therapy is the way to go for sure as it will help you maintain your gains while dropping a good deal of body fat at the same time. I don't feel Cytomel and Clen are needed but thats just my opinion. Best of luck to you

M18

 

[Zyglamail]

That should be a doozy. Is .25mg ana gonna be enough? I would run .5mg myself. Clen and especially T3 should help shed some fat, definatly enough AAS to gain mass and lose fat.

 

[needleboy]

Zyg, your right, .5mg armidex is a better dose.

M_18, I have horrible gentics which make it hard for me to cut, so that's why I was thinking T-3, and clen!

Thanks for the input!

If iI do hit t-3 and clen how should I run them in you guys' opinion?

 

[Zyglamail]

I didnt care for the clen sides myself and it agrivated my prostate so I dont use it anymore. I had decent results with T3 though and ran it as follows.

day 1-5 25mcg
day 6-10 50mcg
day 11-15 75mcg
day 16-20 100mcg
day 21-25 75mcg
day 26-30 50mcg
day 31-35 25mcg

Some guys recommend a slower taper on the back end which wouldnt hurt, especially if your on a longer cycle.

 

[serge]

structurally is well put together, i just feel that you dont need that many different drugs to hold onto your muscle mass, i think test+tren+arimidex and nolvas will be sufficient, no offence but at 227 9,5% bf you are not exactly a mass monster. i suggest you go with more economical way:

test 500mg/week
tren 100mg/ed
arimidex .5mg/ed
nolvas 20mg/ed

if you want throw some winny in as well, maybe 50mg/ed but i dont think its necessary, as far as dnp i would use it before the cycle, the more fat you have on you, the more effective dnp will be.

 

[needleboy]

Serge,

you are sorrect, I am no mass monste, but do not want to be. My goal is to stay aroun 215-225lbs, but drop bf to around 5%.

My joints cannot handle carrying much more weight than that, if I get over 230, running, or playing sports becomes nearly impossible!

 

[MUSTANG_18]

I do agree with serge in a way..You could leave the Eq, Winny, Fina, Test in there but I personally would drop the Deca and Ox. Use the Ox as a bridge and the Deca for another cycle. I did a Test-Tren cut cycle and gained a good deal of muscle while dropping my body fat a great deal. The key for me was carbs in the morn and post workout but thats it. Protein was about 2- 2 1/4 per pound of body weight and the fat was kept VERY low. Cardio in the AM and Weights in the PM. I didn't use Liquidex or Arimidex which was a big mistake and if I did use them then who knows how much better my gains would have been.

M18

 

[serge]

"Serge,

you are sorrect, I am no mass monste, but do not want to be. My goal is to stay aroun 215-225lbs, but drop bf to around 5%.

My joints cannot handle carrying much more weight than that, if I get over 230, running, or playing sports becomes nearly impossible!"

well thats exactly my point, why spend more money then you have to, gaining muscle takes much more juice then maintaining it, so i really feel that test+tren with arimidex and nolvas will get you what you need and you will end up spend not nearly as much money

 

[manny78]

I do agree with serge in a way..You could leave the Eq, Winny, Fina, Test in there but I personally would drop the Deca and Ox. Use the Ox as a bridge and the Deca for another cycle. I did a Test-Tren cut cycle and gained a good deal of muscle while dropping my body fat a great deal. The key for me was carbs in the morn and post workout but thats it. Protein was about 2- 2 1/4 per pound of body weight and the fat was kept VERY low. Cardio in the AM and Weights in the PM. I didn't use Liquidex or Arimidex which was a big mistake and if I did use them then who knows how much better my gains would have been.

M18

Agree I'm not a big fan of running both EQ and Deca. And yes anavar is 17 aa like winny so no need to take risks. The rest is perfect. As for the clen T-3 I would keep it ans use it post cycle with anavar. This would make an awesome bridge.

 

[needleboy]

Well here's the deal, I'm getting Married early April, and want to be completely shredded. We are getting married and honeymooning in Jamaca, so I really want to be shredded big time!!

I already have the OX, it 2.5mg BTG, but it was dirt cheap(.50 per pill!)

Also have the tren and test, and a buddy said he will give me 10 ML of ** Deca for free!

PS and Anavar is not hepotoxic,, which is why they use it fot HIV patients!

 

[MUSTANG_18]

Well here's the deal, I'm getting Married early April, and want to be completely shredded. We are getting married and honeymooning in Jamaca, so I really want to be shredded big time!!

I already have the OX, it 2.5mg BTG, but it was dirt cheap(.50 per pill!)

Also have the tren and test, and a buddy said he will give me 10 ML of ** Deca for free!

PS and Anavar is not hepotoxic,, which is why they use it fot HIV patients!

I can see why you would want to use them but it's really noit necsessary. Fina, Test, Eq, Winny will be more then enough to hold onto the mass while on a very low cal diet and doing larger amounts of Cardio. True, Anavar is not toxic like some other 17aa types of AAS but it would be perfect ina bridge with some Creatine...Congrats on the marriage. Have a great one and I hope you guys have a life time of happyness together

M18

 

[serge]

just because you got the stuff, does not mean you have to dump it all into your body, save it for next time, why waste it

 

[manny78]

PS and Anavar is not hepotoxic,, which is why they use it fot HIV patients!

go read the warnings by BTG

http://www.oxandrin.com/prescribing_info2.html#prec