Next Cycle....Opinions/Advice/Critique

[Unit 2005]

Finished a 10 week sustanon, dbol and eq cycle. Had great strength results, ate like a horse and put on over 20lbs of mass. Next up im going to be running test and proviron with either:

Tren or Primo

And either

Winstrol or Anavar

Goals - shredded lean mass! Anything else is available to me so suggestions are more than welcome. Will also be using clen and ECA to help get as lean as possible.

Never used tren, heard excellent things but sides seem pretty intense....how did people get on with it?

UNIT.

 

[swole]

Sup unit, I granted you a free week of plat membership. Take advantage of the search function - there's a ton of info tucked away on this forum.

What are your stats? (not being a skeptical dick but it helps us figure out what's best for you) What were the doses of your last cycle? Did you have any sides?

I wouldn't run tren as my second, third or fourth cycle. I'd only run it if I were preparing to go on stage.

I'll tell you right now...run test with primo. You will absolutely LOVE the results and feel great the entire time. Nothing but lean, solid gains while dropping body fat.

Generic bread & butter cycle:

WK 1-12 300mg Test E or Cyp
WK 1-12 500mg Primo
WK 1-12 Aromasin as needed to control estrogen (shouldn't need much but it will free up test)

You won't even need clen or ECA to get lean. Just keep the diet relatively clean and watch yourself transform.

 

[Unit 2005]

Ye just got the message, thanks man!! This next cycle would be my 5th, dont think the 300mg of test would be enough as i have run higher before.

Stats: 5'10'' 208lbs, bench 330, squat 400, dead 475 at end of last cycle.

Last cycle:

500mg sust (wk 1 -11)
500mg EQ (wk 1-10)
30mg dbol (wk 1-5)

Sides - Slight acne towards end of cycle but nothing major. Bloated whilst on dbol, but isnt everyone?!

I used primo before but im sure it was some fake stuff because the injections hurt like hell and had alot of swelling, unlike anything i have used since. Its faked alot too but im pretty sure one of my guys can get some legits. Am thinking of proviron run throughout to keep estro down and it frees up more test so pretty sure ill go with that, never really come across aromasin myself - same as adex i suppose???

Whats you opinion on the winny v anavar????

 

[swole]

Sounds like you have your bases covered. Yes primo is often faked. You should sign up on thesourcecheck.com/forum where we can talk about UG labs until the cows come home (we don't talk about sources/labs on EF).

Aromasin is an AI just like adex...but it has quite a few benefits. It's not detrimental to your lipid profile, you don't get moody from it and it also raises free test. I find that it controls bloat very well when you time it correctly and doesn't tax my joints. A good anti-E can also prevent acne (try some vit b5 for that as well).

I've used var before and didn't feel like it justified the cost. I guess you can run winstrol for the last 4-5 weeks of that cycle to harden up. I think you can get away with just test and primo here. Just kick up the test to 500 and keep the primo at 500. You don't need to make it more complex. I'd also stick with the dbol kickstart - just take your entire dosage 3 hours before your workout. The half-life timing is perfect and your workout pump will be insane.

Also, have you ever used HCG or HMG?

 

[Unit 2005]

Not sure i will use the dbol this time out, i want lean mass and the bulky watery look with dbol & test together isnt really what im after!

Yes, always use HCG for 2 weeks during post cycle along with nolva (which i run 2 weeks longer than HCG)....has always worked well for me that way, alot of people on here dont seem to like the idea of HCG as part of post cycle, but use it during the cycle.

So you think i should not use tren at all? How about proviron??

lol, iv been on here long enough to know not to name drop bro! unit 2005 - not 2009

 

[Unit 2005]

Any other suggestions guys?