newby cycle help

[jonnyboy6886]

23/m/6ft1/14st. Ive been reading and decided to do a cycle for the 2nd time. Previous was dbol n sus, dbol for 1st 6weeks n sus 250mg pw for 12wks. I done that cycle about 2yrs ago. I want to do anotha test only cycle in the next couple of weeks. Im kettlebell training n want to get sum serious strength n shape. Ive ordered a mexican lab 10ml vial of alltest 400, 1box nolva and 1box chlomid. I want to run the test at 400mg per week for 10 weeks (1/2ml twice a week). 2weeks after last jab start takin pct. Could any1 tell me how theyd run it? These new pcts sustain n unleashed are not available to me. Please can u give me help how to run this with whats on the list as best as possible. Thankyou, newby

 

[jonnyboy6886]

anybody?

 

[stevesmi]

I feel handcuffed by your post. you started juicing at 20/21 which is too young and now you are saying you want to run another cycle but dont have access to PCT.

I would tell you to not run a cycle UNTIL you have access to the proper PCT. clomid and nolva alone isn't gonna do it, trust me cause I have been there and done that.

 

[jonnyboy6886]

I feel handcuffed by your post. you started juicing at 20/21 which is too young and now you are saying you want to run another cycle but dont have access to PCT.

I would tell you to not run a cycle UNTIL you have access to the proper PCT. clomid and nolva alone isn't gonna do it, trust me cause I have been there and done that.

Where would you find some propper pct online? How would u run it then if u ran 400mg test pwk for 10weeks? Loads of people around me dont even use the tamoxis or chlomid, they jab till the vial runs out and thats it. What would i need to buy 4 my ingredients to success?

 

[stevesmi]

Where would you find some propper pct online? How would u run it then if u ran 400mg test pwk for 10weeks? Loads of people around me dont even use the tamoxis or chlomid, they jab till the vial runs out and thats it. What would i need to buy 4 my ingredients to success?

i take it the people around you are the same boneheads who got you to use steroids at 20 years old too right? fortunately you came to the right place so you don't make the same mistakes those boneheads make. the reason they dont care about PCT is cause they are so young that their bodies recover without it, but their gains dissapear. keep in mind clo and nolv are anti-estrogens but you need more to get your body to recover cause test is suppressive..

this is the PCT i am running off my current 12 week cycle of sust and deca.

have you checked out needto's site? needtobuildmuscle.net?

week 8 I am taking HCGenerate, 2 bottles worth as directed
2 weeks after cycle is done I am going unleashed and post cycle a small amount of clomid, just half tab. Formestan

and I am stoping Clomid after 5 weeks and finishing the above stuff taking as directed.

its a solid and expensive PCT but that is what you need to run if you want to keep your gains and balls.

I would also consider waiting till you are 25+ to run a cycle. keep reading these boards and learning more and dont listen to your 'buddies', they dont care about you and are the types that in 10 years will have beer bellies and brag about how they used to bench 300 when they were younger, but now got old.. they will never admit they didn't know a damn thing about what they were doing in regards to PCT

also in the future if you run an oral you MUST run some type of liver support and limit your dbol to just 4 weeks and take weekends OFF to give the liver a break.

thats my 2 cents

 

[jonnyboy6886]

ive read bits n bobs from other sites but i find they say diffrent things so it confuses me. i really wanted to do a cycle 4 the summer but the only site i hear is legit has limited pct. Nolva,chlo n hcg n i think arimidex. I wanted to do a lean mass low budget cycle n test400, 400mg pw is quite low so i thought that would be ok. What would happen if youve done 3 or 4 cycles n no pct, is that ur natural test ruined forever? If u felt that ur nat test was higher before u touched steds could u regenerate yourseld a couple years down the line?

 

[stevesmi]

thats why i am saying to wait till you are 25+.. but lots of dudes think they should be juicing cause their friends do it at 19 or 20. huge mistake.

 

[EZ_E]

^^^ Good stuff here....Better to wait and do it right. NEVER skimp on the PCT...

Mind if I ask where you live? How come you're having trouble getting the proper PCT?


~EZ

 

[jonnyboy6886]

^^^ Good stuff here....Better to wait and do it right. NEVER skimp on the PCT...

Mind if I ask where you live? How come you're having trouble getting the proper PCT?


~EZ

I live in the midlands uk. things like sustain n unleashed are unheard of round here. Can get any test etc but just those pcts. Was wonderin if theres any legit sites in uk that are well stocked. Is equapoise i good one for strength n solid muscle? I hear u dont need an intense pct for this? Is there such as steroid where hardly any pct is needed?

 

[d_rson]

I live in the midlands uk. things like sustain n unleashed are unheard of round here. Can get any test etc but just those pcts. Was wonderin if theres any legit sites in uk that are well stocked. Is equapoise i good one for strength n solid muscle? I hear u dont need an intense pct for this? Is there such as steroid where hardly any pct is needed?

You need to go more research. These questions indicate more knowledge is needed before you start a cycle.

 

[EZ_E]

you need to go more research. These questions indicate more knowledge is needed before you start a cycle.

+1


~ez