Newbie to site Cycle help needed

[guns78]

Hi all, I'm new to this site in fact I've used many sites for tips however never opened up an account and this looked like a winner to me so here I am. Need your help if possible..

33 years old, 5'11, 195-200lb with 13% body fat .. 1st cycle Dbol only, 2nd Dbol Test, 3rd EQ only, 4th Test Eq and 5th Eq,Test and Tren....

I'm eager to start my 6th very soon and I have SUS, EQ, ANAVAR and TREN on hand. Along with HCG,FEMARA, ARIMADEX,CLOMID AND CLEN on my shelf...

Can anyone with experience give me some help on how to cycle this?

Take Clen through out cycle? 3 weeks on 3 weeks off?

Can I take Anavar to start the cycle with break in between and finish with Anavar?

If I need to get more gear than I will so let me know your thoughts.

 

[oxymoron]

Gonna need some more info guns. What's purpose of the cycle, i'm guessing to do a recomp but please clarify and on top of that can you give the qtys of each you have?

And WELCOME to the site! Lot's of really good safe experienced feedback here.

 

[guns78]

Gonna need some more info guns. What's purpose of the cycle, i'm guessing to do a recomp but please clarify and on top of that can you give the qtys of each you have?

And WELCOME to the site! Lot's of really good safe experienced feedback here.

All my cycles with the exception of my first few because of lack of knowledge are for lean mass. Not a big fan of the smooth look. I've done bodybuilding shows so dieting is not an issue. My intentions are always to be in the 10-12% body fat range while maintaing a weight of 205-210lb range. I'm 200lb at 15% now.

 

[bigbassturd]

If you're gonna touch tren, have prami or caber on hand first bro

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[oxymoron]

And quantities of each compound u have to work with.



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[kc17]

Sus 1-15 500mg
Eq 1-15 600mg
Tren a 1-8 100 eod
Var. 8-15 80mg ed

 

[guns78]

And quantities of each compound u have to work with.



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10,000 mg of Sust
5,000 mg of Anavar
8,000 mg of EQ
3,000 mg of TREN
20 tabs of Femara 2.5mg tabs
2,500 mg of Clomid
60 mg of Arimidex
1,000 mg of NOLVA
6,000 mcg's of CLEN

the above is what I have on hand as we speak. The HCG is on order 20,000 usp's worth. I do not have Prami or Caber.

 

[bigbassturd]

Get some before tren or don't use it

That shit is absolutely a must have

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[oxymoron]

seeing as u got sust and eq, i'm guessin the tren is hex?



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[guns78]

seeing as u got sust and eq, i'm guessin the tren is hex?



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Home made Tren my guy's friend is a chemist. Not sure what type of Tren.

@Bigbassturd I may ditch the Tren. Not a big fan of woody acting like wormy lol

SHould I add another compound instead, run the sus, anavar and eq only or go for the Tren and buy prami/caber?

 

[bigbassturd]

This is a pretty complex cycle, even without the tren. I see you've done a bit of research which is good.

You could just run it without tren, and if your diet and training is right you should see substantial gains in size and strength.

Tren isn't for everyone, I for one hate it, but understand how effective it is. But to run it without caber is a super bad idea..

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[guns78]

This is a pretty complex cycle, even without the tren. I see you've done a bit of research which is good.

You could just run it without tren, and if your diet and training is right you should see substantial gains in size and strength.

Tren isn't for everyone, I for one hate it, but understand how effective it is. But to run it without caber is a super bad idea..

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Thanks a bunch especially for the prompt responses to you both.

I did Tren once and I was wormy for for a couple of months. I'll just sell what I have and implement masteron instead in my next cycle.

Any chance of setting up my cycle? with everything I have? Especially the hcg many say on here to run in at 300-500 iu's throughout the cycle but my friend says for PCT only.

 

[bigbassturd]

Yeah when I get to my comp ill help set you up, but any chance you'd ditch nolva? its kind of a shitty compound, and unleashed/post cycle ran with a little of your clomid would be much more effective

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[bigbassturd]

And I would start the hcg around week 7-8, don't wait until pct

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[guns78]

And I would start the hcg around week 7-8, don't wait until pct

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The Nolva is just something i bought just to have in case I ever needed it. I actually never used it. Clomid is what I've used in the past. Take your time I know I'm asking a bit.

You guys are more of an expert than I am so I'll just role with your suggestions.

 

[guns78]

Yeah when I get to my comp ill help set you up, but any chance you'd ditch nolva? its kind of a shitty compound, and unleashed/post cycle ran with a little of your clomid would be much more effective

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Help me out bro......

 

[needtogetaas]

Hi all, I'm new to this site in fact I've used many sites for tips however never opened up an account and this looked like a winner to me so here I am. Need your help if possible..

33 years old, 5'11, 195-200lb with 13% body fat .. 1st cycle Dbol only, 2nd Dbol Test, 3rd EQ only, 4th Test Eq and 5th Eq,Test and Tren....

I'm eager to start my 6th very soon and I have SUS, EQ, ANAVAR and TREN on hand. Along with HCG,FEMARA, ARIMADEX,CLOMID AND CLEN on my shelf...

Can anyone with experience give me some help on how to cycle this?

Take Clen through out cycle? 3 weeks on 3 weeks off?

Can I take Anavar to start the cycle with break in between and finish with Anavar?

If I need to get more gear than I will so let me know your thoughts.

OK Ill lay it out perfectly for you. How to take everything you got, when to take, how to take, what you must take with it to stay safe , have a good recovery and little to no sides.. In other worlds I wont half ass the cycle and all I ask is that you do the same.. So here goes

SUS, EQ, ANAVAR and TREN

Weeks
1-14 Sust 250mg. Take 1 250mg injections twice a week. Monday and Thursday injects are best for this
1-12 Eq 200mg twice a week can be taken with the sust above on the same day and even in the same shot if you like.
1-8 Anavar 50mg every day spread out
4-10 Tren Ace 100mg every other day
4-8 and 12-16 Hcgenerate 3 caps am and 2 cap pm
14-18 forged post cycle 2 caps am and 2 caps pm
14-20 forma-stanzol 5 pumps am and 5 pumps pm the first 4 weeks and then 3am 3 pm the last 2 weeks.
10-16 T3-pct 1 full dose am and pm
20-24 sarms 25mg am and pm

1.Keep the Ai's on hand for sides you only have type I Ai's
- Need To Build Muscle Inc. Official Blog
and these are best kept for emergencies only and never for long term use and or started with the cycle and ran all the way through to prevent gyno and other side effects... For that you want a suicidal aromatase inhibitorhttp
- Need To Build Muscle Inc. Official Blog

2. Tren lowers thyroid function and T-3 output. Something highly overlooked because people do lose body fat when on the product and its effects in this Area go largely un noticed till after the cycle when you start to quickly gain fat. T3-pct will help recover this and get it back to normal again.

3. You should also have Prami on hand in case of tren dick and other progestrone sides . Read these
The Trenobolone Experience by Needtogetaas - Need To Build Muscle Inc. Official Blog

4. Now as for the clen you can run this at any time during the cycle so long as you reed the following and follow the program as I have laid it out at the end of the article.
Needtogetaas Does Clenbuterol. Clenbuterol - Need To Build Muscle Inc. Official Blog

But to be honest I feel Albuterol is so much better.
- Need To Build Muscle Inc. Official Blog

If you want some reading on anything else I have advice feel free to ask my friend..

 

[bigbassturd]

Help me out bro......

Hey bro, my apologies, my girl got in a car wreck and I've been at the hospital making sure everythings goinng to be good with her pregnancy, but all is well!

Needto beat me to the punch, but you should actually be relieved. Gettin advice from the top dog here always makes me a little more at ease with a cycle, and it's free!

I second him on albuterol being better, and it's also way safer. The effects aren't quite as immediate, but you won't die in your sleep...

One thing I will add to his thoughts is with tren sides, prami does nothing for me. A lot of bros say it works just as well as caber, and it is a lot cheaper, but even with a hefty dose I still get anxiety, night sweats, and insomnia, so if you start experiencing this, keep in mind that some people react better to caber than prami.

Other than that, he pretty much fkn made it foolproof for you bro, that's a killer looking cycle!

How is your diet/training?

 

[guns78]

NEEDTOGETAAS sorry could not quote you because you had links and I cant post any links with less than 25 posts.

See my questions. Sorry our lingo around here is different than here lol

4-8 and 12-16 HCGenerate 3 caps am and 2 cap pm---> WHAT IS CAPS? I'M USED TO iu's?

14-18 forged post cycle 2 caps am and 2 caps pm --> IS THIS HCG TOO?

10-16 T3-PCT 1 full dose am and pm---> IS THIS CYTOMEL IF SO I HAVE THE LIQUID VERSION HOW MANY mcg's?

You should also have Prami on hand in case of tren dick and other progestrone sides---> YOU SAY .5mg DOSAGE BUT DURING WHAT PART OF THE CYCLE? DURING CYCLE OR ONLY IF I GET LIMP DICK? I HAVE CIALIS TOO SHOULD I AVOID THAT?

IF I START FEELING MY NIPPLES ITCH HOW MUCH, WHICH ONE AND HOW LONG OF THE AI's SHOULD I TAKE?

WHAT ABOUT PCT NOLVA/CLOMID CYCLE???

---> YOU ARE THE MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[guns78]

Hey bro, my apologies, my girl got in a car wreck and I've been at the hospital making sure everythings goinng to be good with her pregnancy, but all is well!

Needto beat me to the punch, but you should actually be relieved. Gettin advice from the top dog here always makes me a little more at ease with a cycle, and it's free!

I second him on albuterol being better, and it's also way safer. The effects aren't quite as immediate, but you won't die in your sleep...

One thing I will add to his thoughts is with tren sides, prami does nothing for me. A lot of bros say it works just as well as caber, and it is a lot cheaper, but even with a hefty dose I still get anxiety, night sweats, and insomnia, so if you start experiencing this, keep in mind that some people react better to caber than prami.

Other than that, he pretty much fkn made it foolproof for you bro, that's a killer looking cycle!

How is your diet/training?

Car wreck/Pregnancy??? Hope they are both well!!!! I will go with Albuterol next time FOR SURE!!!!!

I can only get a hold of Prami but I'll let you know how I feel on it. Wish me luck.


Dieting is never an issue with me unless I go through hibernating mode in November/December.. Getting old bro (33yrs).... I used to do "natural" bodybuilding so as long as I'm on a mission (cycling) I go all in.

0 being a couch potato and 10 being a beast my training is a 6-7 but ready for 10 mode to prep fro the cycle in about 3 weeks.

 

[Laxfiend]

NEEDTOGETAAS sorry could not quote you because you had links and I cant post any links with less than 25 posts.

See my questions. Sorry our lingo around here is different than here lol

4-8 and 12-16 HCGenerate 3 caps am and 2 cap pm---> WHAT IS CAPS? I'M USED TO iu's?

14-18 forged post cycle 2 caps am and 2 caps pm --> IS THIS HCG TOO?

10-16 T3-PCT 1 full dose am and pm---> IS THIS CYTOMEL IF SO I HAVE THE LIQUID VERSION HOW MANY mcg's?

You should also have Prami on hand in case of tren dick and other progestrone sides---> YOU SAY .5mg DOSAGE BUT DURING WHAT PART OF THE CYCLE? DURING CYCLE OR ONLY IF I GET LIMP DICK? I HAVE CIALIS TOO SHOULD I AVOID THAT?

IF I START FEELING MY NIPPLES ITCH HOW MUCH, WHICH ONE AND HOW LONG OF THE AI's SHOULD I TAKE?

WHAT ABOUT PCT NOLVA/CLOMID CYCLE???

---> YOU ARE THE MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Needtobuildmuscle.com its all on there. Caps = capsules lol, these arent injectables

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[guns78]

Needtobuildmuscle.com its all on there. Caps = capsules lol, these arent injectables

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Ok I see now... But I already have hcg , clomid and nolva on hand. I don't mind using what is being suggested going forward but I need to use up what I have.

 

[RADAR]

Ok I see now... But I already have hcg , clomid and nolva on hand. I don't mind using what is being suggested going forward but I need to use up what I have.

If you're using Tren don't use nova

 

[bigbassturd]

If you're using Tren don't use nova

Yup, it will do nothing for you but make you feel like shit. It will block your estrogen receptors and allow your progesterone to do whatever the fk it wants...

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[guns78]

If you're using Tren don't use nova

Decided to ditch the Tren....

Sust 750mg per week 16 weeks

EQ 400mg per week 15 weeks

Anavar 50mg ED weeks 10-18

HCG 250iu's 2x weekly, weeks 3-8 & 12-16

AI's on hand just in case but may run it during cycle.

PCT CLomid 150mg on day 1 then 100mg for the next 7 days; followed by 50mg for 14 days finishing with 25mg for 6 days (28 days total) weeks 19-22

 

[guns78]

Yup, it will do nothing for you but make you feel like shit. It will block your estrogen receptors and allow your progesterone to do whatever the fk it wants...

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This is what I decided on.

Sust 750mg per week 16 weeks

EQ 400mg per week 15 weeks

Anavar 50mg ED weeks 10-18

HCG 250iu's 2x a weekly, weeks 3-8 & 12-16

AI's on hand just in case but may run it during cycle.

PCT CLomid 150mg on day 1 then 100mg for the next 7 days; followed by 50mg for 14 days finishing with 25mg for 6 days (28 days total) weeks 19-22

 

[bigbassturd]

Looks pretty well put together bro. Someones been doing some reading..good job

But I would at the very least add in some unleashed to your pct to help out bro, it really is a great product

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[needtogetaas]

NEEDTOGETAAS sorry could not quote you because you had links and I cant post any links with less than 25 posts.

See my questions. Sorry our lingo around here is different than here lol

4-8 and 12-16 HCGenerate 3 caps am and 2 cap pm---> WHAT IS CAPS? I'M USED TO iu's?

14-18 forged post cycle 2 caps am and 2 caps pm --> IS THIS HCG TOO?

I am talking about capsules and hcgenerate although not hcg is somewhat like it however better IMO
- Need To Build Muscle Inc. Official Blog <-- this is just one of the ingredients in it . Forged post cycle is the name of a natural test booster and SHBG reducer 3,4 divil is in it and this has been proven in many studies to be the most powerful SHBG reducer you can get. This is again just one of the ingredients in this product as well.


10-16 T3-PCT 1 full dose am and pm---> IS THIS CYTOMEL IF SO I HAVE THE LIQUID VERSION HOW MANY mcg's?
No CYTOMEL aka T3... T3-pct is a product I designed to help recovery thyroid function after the use of this product or the use of tren.

You should also have Prami on hand in case of tren dick and other progestrone sides---> YOU SAY .5mg DOSAGE BUT DURING WHAT PART OF THE CYCLE? DURING CYCLE OR ONLY IF I GET LIMP DICK? I HAVE CIALIS TOO SHOULD I AVOID THAT?
Only if you get limp dick and if you get limp dick because of high prolictin you can forget CIALIS or Viagra its not going to work. Be my guest to try though..


IF I START FEELING MY NIPPLES ITCH HOW MUCH, WHICH ONE AND HOW LONG OF THE AI's SHOULD I TAKE?
Letro 2.5mg every day and prami .5mg every night till they work then taper the doses down.


WHAT ABOUT PCT NOLVA/CLOMID CYCLE???
Both worthless for pct and both up regulate the PR as well as cause estrogen rebound.
---> YOU ARE THE MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dude please click all the links I gave you in my reply before and read them my friend.

 

[JoJo1980]

Thats a shit load of clomid too

 

[guns78]

Thats a shit load of clomid too

What do you recommend?

 

[training700]

25 be plenty 50 at the very most

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