Newbie-style

[scottydboi82]

Newbie-style, need opionated professionals.

Hey, what's up. I plan on using Sustanon 250mg * 2 amps a week, equaling out to 500 mg total for the week. I also plan on using Dianabol 5mg * 4 a day, equaling out to 20mg a day. For a total, it'll be 500mg of Sustanon a week with 140mg of Dianabol a week. With 6 meals a day and hard-labor, or weight-training, if you will.

Now... here's what I want to talk about. What type of results should I see during a 10 week cycle of this, even an estimate or guesstimate would suffice? I also just recently read about post-cycle. What is it, what is needed for it and how important is it? And does this seem adequate for a first-time user of these muscular enhancers?

Thanks,
Scotty

P.S.
1 - Age = 25
2 - Lifting History = On and off. Military and civilian-alike
3 - Height = 5'10"
4 - Weight = 155 lbs.
5 - Estimated BF% (Or at least, lean/think/fat etc...) = 10.5%
6 - Diet = Fish, green vegetables, beef, poultry, wheat breads
7 - Goals = 225 lbs., 5% BF.
8 - Proposed cycle (To show that you've at least done a little homework.) = 10-week cycle of Sustan 250mg and Dianabol 5mg. 500mg of Sustan 250mg a week, and 140mg of Dianabol 5mg a week. 20mg daily of Dianabol, and 250mg of Sustanon on Monday, with next 250mg of Sustanon taken on Thursday.

 

[partagus]

Everyone seems to run test @ 500 mg a week for 12 weeks, not 10 weeks. I am not sure what difference the two weeks will make.

When considering a cycle, you have to plan out three seperate parts. Each part is important, and neither part is more important than any other.

The first part is what gear you will be using, the dosages, etc. It seems that you have a pretty good idea on when to inject to keep your blood levels equal etc.

The second part is your diet. Like everyone says, the best bodies aren't made in the gym, they're made in the kitchen. Plan your diet, break down your calories, how many cals a day will you consume? What percentage of those cals will be from protein? Fat? Carbs? It's easy to say you are going to eat six meals a day but depending on those meals, you may need more meals, or substitutions for each meal. Spend a little time working on your diet. fitday.com has a great calorie calculator and is very helpful at planning meals. It is a pain in the ass to set up, but well worth it.

The third and final part is PCT. This is extremely inportant as you want to eliminate sides, and keep your gains and not kill your body. Do some research on PCT and ask some vets or mods for help with yours. Omega and Needtogetas are always helpful. DO NOT RUN A CYCLE IF YOU DO NOT HAVE EVERYTHING YOU NEED FOR PCT!!!!

Spend a little more time planning your cycle, your diet and get everything you need on PCT (Information, supps etc) and then run your cycle. In my opinion, if you're going to run a cycle, you should do it the right way and the best way. Do not rush into it, and it will be worth it in the end. Keep researching, keep asking questions, and fine tune your cycle BEFORE you start it. Good luck Bro!

 

[scottydboi82]

Thanks, a bunch. I know a lot more now, than the little that I did know. And I agree with you whole-heartedly when it comes to having everything prepared before-hand, and that's precisely what I'm doing. I have to break up my paychecks, so I won't have everything for another month and a half.

I'll be sure to check on some other posts for advice, and possibly even hear from a vet or mod here. Once again, I appreciate your extensive input. Take care, bro.

Scotty

 

[samoth]

Re: Newbie-style, need opionated professionals.

3 - Height = 5'10"
4 - Weight = 155 lbs.

7 - Goals = 225 lbs., 5% BF.

I'd say you're dreaming.

Why don't you devote a little more time to the gym and diet and, you know, perhaps break 175 pounds before using drugs.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

I agree with samooth.

 

[scottydboi82]

I would have to disagree with his statement. I've broke that record on several occasions, so it's not a big setback. It doesn't take that much time at all, on a proper mix. If you can't give positive, reinforced and constructed criticism, don't post on my thread at all.

Thanks,
Scott

 

[redtopp06]

dedicate youself first of all. gain about 20-25 pounds more natural. one good thing isthat you r not too young, like 18. so im someone here can come with a good plan for you considering your age. what are your lifting stats anyway. are you strong at 155? i had a buddy in the army who was(is)5'10'' 155 but was a hard gainer real bad. he was benching 315. dont remember his squat. but the dude was fuckin strong. so if your like him id run a cycle at that weight. just soak in all the info these bro's have and you'll come up with the right cycle.

 

[scottydboi82]

Yes, I'm strong at this stature. I just got over from being sick for 6 months, so I'm getting over it, finally. But I'm still rugged and strong. Thanks for the input.

 

[xrsist]

brother at that weight you could easily put on 20pounds with a good diet (6meals a day) and supplements (protein, stimulants, creatine). i dont think aas is right for you just yet.

 

[socket]

At your weight, if you stick 40lbs on with gear, your tendons wont take it, and you'll injure yourself. Get your diet sorted right, increase your calories, and let your body reach its genetic maximum before even thinking about chems.

I'd also say if you've been training for years and are still only 155lbs, you're doing something wrong, so analyse your training also.

Like Samoth said, your goal is FAR off, not necesarily the weight, but the BF, combined with a 70LB increase is a fucking dream one a single cycle. If your goals are unattainable, you'll soon lose focus and get pissed off. Set realistic goals, like a 15lb lean weight gain.

 

[cadey]

+1

 

[needtogetaas]

Everyone seems to run test @ 500 mg a week for 12 weeks, not 10 weeks. I am not sure what difference the two weeks will make.

When considering a cycle, you have to plan out three seperate parts. Each part is important, and neither part is more important than any other.

The first part is what gear you will be using, the dosages, etc. It seems that you have a pretty good idea on when to inject to keep your blood levels equal etc.

The second part is your diet. Like everyone says, the best bodies aren't made in the gym, they're made in the kitchen. Plan your diet, break down your calories, how many cals a day will you consume? What percentage of those cals will be from protein? Fat? Carbs? It's easy to say you are going to eat six meals a day but depending on those meals, you may need more meals, or substitutions for each meal. Spend a little time working on your diet. fitday.com has a great calorie calculator and is very helpful at planning meals. It is a pain in the ass to set up, but well worth it.

The third and final part is PCT - post cycle therapy - . This is extremely inportant as you want to eliminate sides, and keep your gains and not kill your body. Do some research on PCT and ask some vets or mods for help with yours. Omega and Needtogetas are always helpful. DO NOT RUN A CYCLE IF YOU DO NOT HAVE EVERYTHING YOU NEED FOR PCT!!!!

Spend a little more time planning your cycle, your diet and get everything you need on PCT (Information, supps etc) and then run your cycle. In my opinion, if you're going to run a cycle, you should do it the right way and the best way. Do not rush into it, and it will be worth it in the end. Keep researching, keep asking questions, and fine tune your cycle BEFORE you start it. Good luck Bro!

nice bro..love the post dame good advice......they will be praising your name in no time.lol

 

[Ezekiel]

I'll take a stab here and say that he is going to do the gear anyways! So, with that in mind perhaps someone could offer him some advice. I think he understands that he needs to eat correctly etc.

and yes I do agree he should wait. However, we know how that usually goes...

 

[scottydboi82]

I'll still go through with it and do intense workouts, daily water intake, food intake, carbs, protein, good fats, etc. I'd appreciate some feedback on the post portion.

 

[BigGuyPHX]

Everyone seems to run test @ 500 mg a week for 12 weeks, not 10 weeks. I am not sure what difference the two weeks will make.

When considering a cycle, you have to plan out three seperate parts. Each part is important, and neither part is more important than any other.

The first part is what gear you will be using, the dosages, etc. It seems that you have a pretty good idea on when to inject to keep your blood levels equal etc.

The second part is your diet. Like everyone says, the best bodies aren't made in the gym, they're made in the kitchen. Plan your diet, break down your calories, how many cals a day will you consume? What percentage of those cals will be from protein? Fat? Carbs? It's easy to say you are going to eat six meals a day but depending on those meals, you may need more meals, or substitutions for each meal. Spend a little time working on your diet. fitday.com has a great calorie calculator and is very helpful at planning meals. It is a pain in the ass to set up, but well worth it.

The third and final part is PCT - post cycle therapy - . This is extremely inportant as you want to eliminate sides, and keep your gains and not kill your body. Do some research on PCT and ask some vets or mods for help with yours. Omega and Needtogetas are always helpful. DO NOT RUN A CYCLE IF YOU DO NOT HAVE EVERYTHING YOU NEED FOR PCT!!!!

Spend a little more time planning your cycle, your diet and get everything you need on PCT (Information, supps etc) and then run your cycle. In my opinion, if you're going to run a cycle, you should do it the right way and the best way. Do not rush into it, and it will be worth it in the end. Keep researching, keep asking questions, and fine tune your cycle BEFORE you start it. Good luck Bro!

Great advice bro!

I would like to add... I was 5'10'' 155 pounds like you BUT with the help of two bodybuilding brothers I was able to pack on 50 pounds of keeper muscle ALL 100% natural over 2 year time period. I agree with a lot of replys on this thread but I think if you want to unleash your full potential you need to crack the code on what make your body grow natural first. My body changed BIG TIME when I went to 1 1/2 grams of protien per body pound, 1 gallon+ of water a day, and at least 8 HOURS OF GOOD SLEEP. Good sups+vits help too.
I am new Gear and feel the BEST thing I did was wait and learned how to be a bodybuilder first before Gear. Like a house bro you want to build on a rock solid foundation.
Good luck bro!
P.S. Fuck the negitive replys DREAM BIG!
BigGuyPHX

Squat to ya Teabag the Floor!!!

 

[Papa Lion]

Samoth wasn't sayin anything untrue bro!! you need real goals and in one cycle 70 lbs of lean muscle mass is pretty fuckin unattainable!! to pack on a full 70 pounds of ANYTHING in the course of ten weeks is pretty fuckin unattainable!! and if you did manage it your health would be fooked!!! so as already said put out realistic goals, 70 lbs is maybe where you want to be down the road but in one go it's just not gonna happen!! good luck and don't take this post the wrong way!!

 

[hyp1]

@155lbs sounds to me you need to focus more on your training and especially on your protein and caloric intake,which imo both need to be increased substantially.

train hard and heavy with clean form,eat clean but in large quanities,get sufficient rest and you will grow like a fucking weed.do that for a few years,break the 200lb mark weight wise naturally,study your ass off about cycles and post cycle therapy and THEN YOU CAN CONTEMPLATE STEROIDS.

 

[partagus]

Samoth wasn't sayin anything untrue bro!! you need real goals and in one cycle 70 lbs of lean muscle mass is pretty fuckin unattainable!! to pack on a full 70 pounds of ANYTHING in the course of ten weeks is pretty fuckin unattainable!! and if you did manage it your health would be fooked!!! so as already said put out realistic goals, 70 lbs is maybe where you want to be down the road but in one go it's just not gonna happen!! good luck and don't take this post the wrong way!!

This is absolute truth. When I replied, I didn't see your goal of adding so much muscle weight in such a short period of time. What would you guys say is a legit goal for adding muscle? 15-25 lbs? Just curious. Thanks