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newbie is it ok to juice just yet?

iam just saying> iam 24 and shit you look twice my size...dam i've been playing hockey for 19yrs. and i knew i should of went to the gym more... iam just starting my building blocks.. at the gym but ive been on and off on working out ...i think iam not too bad.. iam 24yr.130lb and 5'9 but iam willing to kick it out..no pain no gain. .. iam with you on Gear... iam using No2 Ce2 & M1-bol i'ts ok for now .. just to get my body used to Gear > lots of protein from GNC,and eating alot. > i go to the gym mon-thur 2hr morning and 2hrs noon iam putting on some muscle > but like you said not fast enough> i want to look like Lee Priest.<>great physque ...iam thinking about Deca and something else ? > i loose weight really fast so iam not trying to loose any just trying to gain mass & muscle. keep on lifting ! your get there. good luck.
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rompperstomper said:
what highjacking pictures .. if thats stealing another persons pics that just stupid!
can hold a piece of paper while i'm flexed so I wrote it on me arms !
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one of me bicep

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i'm 19 now I have been training for 8 years foot ball from age 11-17 and just these last 8 months body building...

age 19
height 5'11
weights 225lbs
body fat I'm kinda chunky so I have no idea

everyone tells me i'n gonna blow up off the juice.. they tell me i look like arnold at age 18-19 but i dont feel big at all i know arnold was like 275lbs of something crazy and huge no way i'll every look anything like him...

well i'm on the juice now for 5 days I can say that i do feel likei'm starting to grow a little more... the doctors are against it but i wanna be a bodybuilder....

so if 500mg of test and 600mg of eq is to much what do i need to cut back to.. some one suggested 1000mg of test with 750mg of deca for a " killer first cycle"

not looking to put on any bloat or puffy I want solid vascular muscle...

help me out...the gym rats dont know shit they just wann sell you stuff and make a fourtune.
 
do u think that most people with ectomorphs ..indulging in d-bol > for people who really have a hard time getting gains > do u think that d-bol would be the way to go...for a starter? for a person who is 130lb and 24yrs looking to pack on muscle and mass and can't gain. ?






FORTUNE said:
solidspine

why do you think he will be sorry - specifically? i dont disagree with you as i got all excited about taking a ridiculously high dosage of dbol (35mg a day for 35 days) when i was 18.5 years old and my stats were literally about 140lbs at 6'2 or 6'3...with a not great diet and poor training.....i really wonder if my bone/growth plate development was stunted in any way...although i read that dbol is prescribed (still?) by some doctors to super skinny ectomorphs who need a monster boost....so i dunno.... i probably /did get gyno even tho i used nolva and clomid....so i want to know why u thought specifically that he will be sorry? thanks!
 
Mustang cobra said:
do u think that most people with ectomorphs ..indulging in d-bol > for people who really have a hard time getting gains > do u think that d-bol would be the way to go...for a starter? for a person who is 130lb and 24yrs looking to pack on muscle and mass and can't gain. ?
Search dbol only on this board. It is constantly posted by newbies, no less than 1000 times in all. And each time the newbie is told what a terrible idea that is.
 
i jumped the gun too, but im going to school for nutrition, so i know diet is key. Plus i have years of soso lifting under my belt. Sports/entire life.

Been powerlifting for almost 2 years, and just finished one up....Im not regretting it at all and probably wont. (but then again it was light, 500mg/week test E: only)

But my training is rather intense. Every Sat & Sunday Gym at 10am. And im there from 10am - 2pm (Muy thai training after lifting).

BUT, i didnt do it to 'look good', i wanted strenght, and trained for it.
 
IMO it is best for you to get a solid base. Solid muscle base. Hit the 'roids' about 20
or 21yr.old. I'm saying is, "Do not blew away your body's natural ability to produce testosterone at your age!!! HIGH TEST!!! Test production will stop at every cycle. Then you will have to pct to get back the level to "some what a normal level", if you make at all to that point.
I still say wait 20 or 21, after that "have all the "candy" you want"!!!
 
rompperstomper said:
I have been lifting a soild 8 months 30 minutes a day 3 days a week... and decided to hope on some gear,
i'm 5'11 225 - 227lbs was 240lbs but felt to fat so i dropped some weight

everyone says no keep lifting for 5 years I'm like what the fuck? I think I am ready for the juice...

I have no idea what the body fat is I just snapped this pic my self with the camera ...
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i think i'm ready ... i just started 2 days ago... eq 600mg test 500mg and everyone says stop your a newbie ive been in the game 8 months but am just as big as some of the guys that have been lifting for 5 years in my gym...
I no guys that only lift when they juice in the summer and there fine! its all just as harmful,it just depends on your long term goals.
 
FORTUNE said:
sarge

does your natural potential stop if you goto the dark side/take juice. will my use of high dose dbol 35mg each day when i was 18.5 years old have stopped my natural potential forever....or do u get it back....cause i have made 20+lbs of natural gains in the 3.5 years since i came off the dbol....and am about to start m1-test
dude.. your BONES stop growing..growth plates seal due to high estrogen.. it dont have shit to do with your ability to gain weight/muscle.. are you 18.75 now? and btw, 35mg isnt a "high dose" dbol.. BLEH
 
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