newbie is it ok to juice just yet?

[cityhick]

You look real good for 3X a week. You lucky assholes with rediculous genetics. But I would be careful your joints/ligiments are going to have trouble keeping up with the muscle. Exspecially at 19. Should wait till you have been doing it more seriouslly for a longer period of time.

 

[Ulter]

No, nothing other than your bone growth plates are affected as far as stunted growth goes.
Dbol isn't used in most of the world for anything. It is a 50 plus year old compound that has been discarded by the medical community has not approved use at all in most countries anymore. I think Poland, Russia and Asia still use it.
In the 60's is was used for liver disease, diabetes, schizophrenia, arthritis, malnutrition, and just about anything else you can think of. It didn't work for any of those things but that's what they thought back then.

 

[rompperstomper]

thanks for the help guys ... i think your right guys i'll stop the roids and see what i can do on my own for a year or so.. then juice...

i still have a long way to go... that pro is fucking huge... i'm not even close so i'll keep working out hardcore...

I have a secret i dont tell the other guys ay the gym.... its peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.. my mom packs um for me and i eat my breakfast then a sandwich for a snack then lunch then another pb&j then dinner then another pb& j before bed and i'm drinking a gallon of milk a day...
thats the secret while other guys are eating french fries and sodas i'm pounding pb&j and milk..

as far as work i dont pick cotton,, I smash concrete all day with a sledge hammer and carry its away... my dads friend does concrete work driveways,sidewalks stuff like that.Its my job to smash the old concrete then carry the chuncks to the hualing truck..

well i did one shot already 500mg of test 600mg of eq... whats gonna happen now if i just stop ?
will i be ok?

 

[mr.nitro]

I wouldn't stop your cycle. no mater what people will say, your too fat, your too skinny, your too young, your this or that. bottom line, you got a good base, you obviously know how to lift. fuck it, go for it. I wish I did at 19yo rather than 27yo, id be closer to my goals by now.

if you stop now what will happen? probley nothing. its your call bro

 

[rompperstomper]

oh some one asked what kind of work out and if i rest.. its heavey duty training..i do 3 sets of heavey bench,3 sets of back rows,3 sets of bicep curls,3sets of squats ,3 sets of triceps 3 days a week. kinda like a all bodt training , monday ,wensday ,saturday. I read it online as the most effective way to build natural muscle. its what bodybuilders in the 1940's and 50's used to do ... its full out as much weight as one can do for 6 reps..

i doubt they took steroids so if it worked for them i said i'll give it a try...
its worked good so far ... but now i need to work on cuts,definition,bicep peaks, calves and get a more of a bodybuilder looks... I have decided to try arnolds intermediate bodybuilding routine from his encylcopedia it focuses on hitting the muscle with more excersizes to get a more developed look...

the roid things is still up in the air... i have one more night to decide if i'll continue then tomammrow is monday time do do the second shots...

mr nito i might juice.. or cut the dose down to test 300 eq 250 as a fist cycle to see if that does anything...

 

[solidspine]

solidspine

why do you think he will be sorry - specifically? i dont disagree with you as i got all excited about taking a ridiculously high dosage of dbol (35mg a day for 35 days) when i was 18.5 years old and my stats were literally about 140lbs at 6'2 or 6'3...with a not great diet and poor training.....i really wonder if my bone/growth plate development was stunted in any way...although i read that dbol is prescribed (still?) by some doctors to super skinny ectomorphs who need a monster boost....so i dunno.... i probably /did get gyno even tho i used nolva and clomid....so i want to know why u thought specifically that he will be sorry? thanks!

First of all I agree with Ulter,

His epiphyseal plates or bone plates in his body are still growing and have not healed or formed hard articulating cartilage.


This is through out his body not just legs and arms. Each long bone has at least two growth plates: one at each end. The growth plate determines the future length and shape of the mature bone. But the damage will be seen everywhere.

When you take gear the plates close prematurely, and not with solid bone.

Your long bones don’t grow longer your height is stunted and your bone plates are still not solid bone, so they damage much easier then if left alone.

I have been in over 5000 surgeries in the past 30 years, and have seen kids on gear having arthroscopies whose articulating cartilage looked like cracked eggs, because of gear. When you remove the articulating cartilage, you next injury you will need a total joint, not nice at 19 or 20.

 

[tonyroma]

First of all I agree with Ulter,

His epiphyseal plates or bone plates in his body are still growing and have not healed or formed hard articulating cartilage.


This is through out his body not just legs and arms. Each long bone has at least two growth plates: one at each end. The growth plate determines the future length and shape of the mature bone. But the damage will be seen everywhere.

When you take gear the plates close prematurely, and not with solid bone.

Your long bones don’t grow longer your height is stunted and your bone plates are still not solid bone, so they damage much easier then if left alone.

I have been in over 5000 surgeries in the past 30 years, and have seen kids on gear having arthroscopies whose articulating cartilage looked like cracked eggs, because of gear. When you remove the articulating cartilage, you next injury you will need a total joint, not nice at 19 or 20.

What about runnin Var and some Test. Heard Var doesn't subdew growth plates

 

[tonyroma]

Yeah I fucked my football scholarship up when I was 18 because I blew out my ACL, due to taking Deca+Win during the season. Now I can only wrestle.

 

[SgtSlaughter]

You've got great advice in here bro.

You have much more natural potiential than you know... Keep pounding the food and lifting heavy.

 

[FORTUNE]

sarge

does your natural potential stop if you goto the dark side/take juice. will my use of high dose dbol 35mg each day when i was 18.5 years old have stopped my natural potential forever....or do u get it back....cause i have made 20+lbs of natural gains in the 3.5 years since i came off the dbol....and am about to start m1-test