NEWBIE don't be afraid of Tren!!

[Realgains]

You must be joking, right? Steroid reseachers? These characters have never published a single article in a peer reviewed medical or scienticic journal.

You certainly seem to present a lot of things as facts without producing much data to back them up

So what if they have not published in " peer reviewed medical or scienticic journal" You obviously have yet to read much if anything from these men. BTW Bill Roberts was probably doing steroids AND RESEARCHING before you were even born!

 

[nandi12]

Once again you are mistaken, realgains. I am 47.

 

[Realgains]

Once again you are mistaken, realgains. I am 47.

Gee nice number to pull out of your hat ........I would have shot higher though , perhaps 57 he he he Do you think I buy that one HA!
You started it bro.....trying to discredit me with sarcastic and cutting statements.

 

[BigBazooka]

Hmmmm. How about making a post "NEWBIE, don't be afraid of going to gym and train!!"

 

[jboldman]

Why was he trying to discredit you? I think, and reasonably so, he was saying that blanket statements are sometimes not true. You counter withm, no studies, but, "it is commonly known" opinions. Now, we all know that if you look hard enough you can find "a" study to support whatever you want. The facts are that there are some serious side effects from using tren and that users should be aware of them before using it. I would not get your undies in a bundle here, this was an interesting discussion with points and counterpoints being made based on studies and personal experience, let's not have it degenerate to name calling but rather keep it at the level it should be, participants in an activity that suffers a dirth of good scientific studies due to the nature of it trying to find and share infromation. BTW I am over 50! How old are you........

jb

Gee nice number to pull out of your hat ........I would have shot higher though , perhaps 57 he he he Do you think I buy that one HA!
You started it bro.....trying to discredit me with sarcastic and cutting statements.

 

[Realgains]

Why was he trying to discredit you? I think, and reasonably so, he was saying that blanket statements are sometimes not true. You counter withm, no studies, but, "it is commonly known" opinions. Now, we all know that if you look hard enough you can find "a" study to support whatever you want. The facts are that there are some serious side effects from using tren and that users should be aware of them before using it. I would not get your undies in a bundle here, this was an interesting discussion with points and counterpoints being made based on studies and personal experience, let's not have it degenerate to name calling but rather keep it at the level it should be, participants in an activity that suffers a dirth of good scientific studies due to the nature of it trying to find and share infromation. BTW I am over 50! How old are you........

jb

I guess you have not been reading the thread very well...........oh well I give up

 

[frorider6]

Ya know, I was going tor ead over this and give a thoughtful opinion, but I've been over this so many times that I'll just be brief.

I'm pretty new to the game. I just finished a tren cycle, my second ever. So I've not been in the game as long and haven't gotten as accumstomed to the idea of gear.

Tren is not a newbie drug. Daily injections by someone new and unfamiliar with injections is more likely to cause infections and other problems.

Also, Tren sides have NO DEFINITE WAY to be controlled. At this point, it's all speculation and opinion.

FOR ALL NEWBIES - It's better to stick with light cycles of gear that the sides effects can be controlled. I wish I had.

 

[negaun]

good post!!

karma in your way bro!

 

[Realgains]

Ya know, I was going tor ead over this and give a thoughtful opinion, but I've been over this so many times that I'll just be brief.

I'm pretty new to the game. I just finished a tren cycle, my second ever. So I've not been in the game as long and haven't gotten as accumstomed to the idea of gear.

Tren is not a newbie drug. Daily injections by someone new and unfamiliar with injections is more likely to cause infections and other problems.

Also, Tren sides have NO DEFINITE WAY to be controlled. At this point, it's all speculation and opinion.

FOR ALL NEWBIES - It's better to stick with light cycles of gear that the sides effects can be controlled. I wish I had. [/QUOTE



Looks like the tren gave you some nice lean mass bro.....

I hear ya bro....but if you are sure of the sterility of the tren(pasturize it yourself) it really isn't that big of a deal. Tren will go through a 27 1.5 inch pin rather well with an insulin syringe and it doesn't hurt but it is important that the person using it knows how and where to inject and that why I recommended a friends help at first. But if a newbie cannot get good instruction then its best not to even inject a roid or testosterone once per week. After a few guided pokes it really becomes a breeze for most. Its not rocket science and the volume of injection is tiny not to mention the pin is so thin that you can push it through the skin in slow motion and feel next to nothing.

I would sooner poke myself with a tiny 27 pin and inject half a cc then pop d-bols all day thats for sure and d-bol seems to be a fairly common hormone for the newbie.

I really don't think 50 of tren with perhaps 100 of proviron(non 17 aa roid) or a little test (200mg/week) is too much for a newbie. In fact I think it is a nice light cycle. Sure beats using 17 aa roids.
Also it is very cheap to make and its fun too.

There are ways to control the sides from tren.
The sides from moderate dose tren usually are not bad at all. I beat that most guys would hardly notice a thing. The loss of libido can be controlled via proviron or a small dose of test.
Hair loss, if you have the genetics,can be controlled by using topical spironolactone. Test is harder on the hair than tren
The chances of getting gyno is really slim bro. If nipple tenderness starts then just stop the tren and it will go away and blow up into gyno.

 

[Realgains]

Ya know, I was going tor ead over this and give a thoughtful opinion, but I've been over this so many times that I'll just be brief.

I'm pretty new to the game. I just finished a tren cycle, my second ever. So I've not been in the game as long and haven't gotten as accumstomed to the idea of gear.

Tren is not a newbie drug. Daily injections by someone new and unfamiliar with injections is more likely to cause infections and other problems.

Also, Tren sides have NO DEFINITE WAY to be controlled. At this point, it's all speculation and opinion.

FOR ALL NEWBIES - It's better to stick with light cycles of gear that the sides effects can be controlled. I wish I had.

What sides did you get bro?