Newbie cycles that vets could learn from.

[Bruce]

i have to say that if i take 400 of deca which seems high now, i don't get shit, at 600 a week, i get strength gains that are unbelievable, and arnold has been quoted saying that dbol is the breakfast of champions, he said he ate them like tic tacs.

 

[BIGisBetter2]

Okay I am going to put this dose thing to rest once and for all...he he he .

A very close friend of mine who has trained naturally for YEARS and has been stuck at his natural maximum weight for years (5'10" and 195 lean) decided to try steroids.

I strongly suggested that he be followed by a doctor especailly since he is 39 years old.
I recommended Ulters doctor to him, endochrinologist Dr. Scuggs.

Dr. Scuggs has many many steroid using patients BTW.

Scuggs put him on 100mg of nandrolone and 100mg of test(US human grade) injecting every 4th day. Thats a total of 350mg of juice every 7 days. He decided to stay "on" for 12 weeks. He gained a very solid 22 pounds. Its been 3 months since the cycle ended and he is still up 18 pounds. This was in a man 39 years of age that was already at his natural max weight. He did, however, have a very solid understanding of how to train properly. He trains low volume and infrequently with few very hard sets on the big basic compound movements. He also ate very well and got at least 8 hours of sleep EVERY NIGHT.

NOTE: Once you stop juice you will eventually go down to your natural max weight. Some are able to keep a little more as steroids can increase the actual number of muscle cells a little.

So you don't need high doses if everything is in order.

Go to www.newhopemed.com
Read "Steroids benefits and pitfalls"
In this acticle Dr. Scuggs say that 350-700mg of juice per week(only half of this being strong androgen testosterone) is MORE than enough for all but the most HARD CORE bodybuilders.

Gee guys...what does "the most hard core mean?" THE HIGHLY COMPETITIVE in my books..like Quadsweep.

RG

Hi guy's,
I'm 41 going 42 & decided after 2 years to do another cycle, I'm naturally tall, 6'4" & lean & strip @ 92kg eating well & exercising, my natural weight.

But cutting to the chase: My current cycle, which i'm only in week 3 of consists of 3 dbol twice a day, 200 deca a week & 500 Sust a week.
Already I have gained 9kg in lean mass, so much so I have been asked to compete. No sides at all, except hunger ALL the time......this is not my first cycle as I stated.
Age has no barrier but I do agree it is harder to get gains as you get older, mind you everybody thinks i'm only 31 - 32 or so, I really don't look my age.
Any ideas from the older boy's out there as to joint pain or cures...
Please no smart comments from all the KIDS in here, I go better than most, I'm regarded as in the top 5 @ my very large gym for strength & form....