New Workout HELP!(PLEASE!)

[Iliketolift]

It doesn't matter what bar you curl with. There's no difference. Use the EZ bar if you insist. The point you're missing is that you should be worrying about chinups and rows for your bicep development. Throw in one exercise for a couple sets once a week to directly work the biceps (say 3x12-15 for curls on Friday). Let the rest of your bicep work come from weighted chinups and rows.

Chinups huh? wow, i really never thought so... thanks!

 

[Anthrax Invasion]

Yes, do the chinups with a supinated grip (palms facing you) and let the elbows come in right alongside your body. This will give the biceps a direct line of pull and allow you to move the most weight.

 

[mojaz87]

If you are sincerely worried about your biceps, a flat bar will do much more for you than an e-z curl bar. The e-z curl has it's place i guess. Some like to use it for skull-crushers, whatever. The point is, maximum contraction of your biceps comes from a totall supinated (turned out) grip. The e-z curl bar pronates your wrists. Here's an experiment..flex your right bicep. Now take your right hand and turn it inward so you can see the back of it. Did your bicep go slack? Now try the same thing (flex your bicep), but turn your right hand out. It should have a much harder contraction than when the hand was turned inward. The e-z curl causes your hands to be bent slightly inwards. It puts more focus on the brachialis muscle, decreasing the work your bicep has to do. IMO, it's worthless. Just try your curls with a straight bar next time and tell me how it goes. Make sure to let your arms extend fully in the downward position before starting the next rep. The olympic bar is often thicker than the e-z curl also, so you can work your grip simultaneously. Personally, I think isolating the biceps is a waste of time. I agree with the posts above though, they do get a lot of work from pulling exercises, especially reverse-grip pullups, rows, etc. Those exercises will give you some strength you can use.

 

[Iliketolift]

If you are sincerely worried about your biceps, a flat bar will do much more for you than an e-z curl bar. The e-z curl has it's place i guess. Some like to use it for skull-crushers, whatever. The point is, maximum contraction of your biceps comes from a totall supinated (turned out) grip. The e-z curl bar pronates your wrists. Here's an experiment..flex your right bicep. Now take your right hand and turn it inward so you can see the back of it. Did your bicep go slack? Now try the same thing (flex your bicep), but turn your right hand out. It should have a much harder contraction than when the hand was turned inward. The e-z curl causes your hands to be bent slightly inwards. It puts more focus on the brachialis muscle, decreasing the work your bicep has to do. IMO, it's worthless. Just try your curls with a straight bar next time and tell me how it goes. Make sure to let your arms extend fully in the downward position before starting the next rep. The olympic bar is often thicker than the e-z curl also, so you can work your grip simultaneously. Personally, I think isolating the biceps is a waste of time. I agree with the posts above though, they do get a lot of work from pulling exercises, especially reverse-grip pullups, rows, etc. Those exercises will give you some strength you can use.

Ill do that next week and tell you how it goes, by the sounds of it im trying the 5x5? Seems to be the cool thing to do.

 

[s8nlilhlpr]

Hey, just to point out, you can't really "try" the 5x5. Applying those setsXreps to your own bb split isn't really the same. If you want to run the 5x5, read up on it here

http://www.geocities.com/elitemadcow1/table_of_contents_thread.htm

I agree with Mojaz, the ezbar takes the stress off of your biceps, you should use the oly bar for everything possible.

 

[Anthrax Invasion]

A chinup will work better than any curl for biceps.

 

[casualbb]

established programs are good, because they usually represent the advice of someone who knows what they're doing.

PIck an established program, and follow it to the T. Take a good workout journal while you do it. Keep a diet journal too.

When the program is over, share your results with us. Did it meet your expectations? Did you achieve your goals? etc.

Altering principles from one workout to the next isn't going to do anything for your workout knowledge or your physique.

 

[djeclipse]

Ill do that next week and tell you how it goes, by the sounds of it im trying the 5x5? Seems to be the cool thing to do.

You're a complete moron, why do you continue to post useless shit here?

Go to bb.com, it's more your style. You'll find tons of morons to stroke your ego, tell you all that useless bie isolation is the shiznit YO!, and tell you that your anorexic pictures look jacked. And I’m sure they’ll love all the stupid threads you make about smoking pot before working out and asking questions that have already been answered 100 times here.

Don't bother with the 5x5 because you will fuck it up. You'll cry about not getting enough bie isolation work in and you're not hitting your pecs form all angles, so you'll start adding shit everywhere completely fucking up the program. Then you'll bitch to everyone that is dumb enough to listen that the 5x5 didn't work.

I think it’s time to either loose the attitude or fuck off.

 

[Iliketolift]

You're a complete moron, why do you continue to post useless shit here?

Go to bb.com, it's more your style. You'll find tons of morons to stroke your ego, tell you all that useless bie isolation is the shiznit YO!, and tell you that your anorexic pictures look jacked. And I’m sure they’ll love all the stupid threads you make about smoking pot before working out and asking questions that have already been answered 100 times here.

Don't bother with the 5x5 because you will fuck it up. You'll cry about not getting enough bie isolation work in and you're not hitting your pecs form all angles, so you'll start adding shit everywhere completely fucking up the program. Then you'll bitch to everyone that is dumb enough to listen that the 5x5 didn't work.

I think it’s time to either loose the attitude or fuck off.

Where to start where to start... First off you post worthless shit. Thats an old picture and its cut not anorexic, dont be mad at me if your ugly/fat. The pot thread was about smoking AFTER, you fucking flamer. You know nothing about me, so I suggest you take your overly witty comments and shove them up your ass. Now would you stop making posts like this in every thread of mine that talks COMPLETE bullshit "from every angle" you moron.

 

[Anthrax Invasion]

djeclipse is turning in to me. It's time I go the way of the Madcow.