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New to working out. need help

jim2268

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im making my own workout schedule and have some questions. i was wondering that do i need to exercise a body part more than once in a workout. like for shoulders, should i do shoulder press and do shrugs or just shoulder press. and for biceps should i do barbell curls and dumbell curls or just dumbell curls? also im doing a bulk workout. thanks
 
if your doing a bulk i suggest you read up on a 5x5.. Try to find the link to the madcow workout, and with a 5x5 youll be basically hitting up core work outs, 3x a week, with some isolations that you might throw in
 
jim2268 said:
im making my own workout schedule and have some questions. i was wondering that do i need to exercise a body part more than once in a workout. like for shoulders, should i do shoulder press and do shrugs or just shoulder press. and for biceps should i do barbell curls and dumbell curls or just dumbell curls? also im doing a bulk workout. thanks

ok, i am not a pro at workouts, but this is a suggestion. there is more than one muscle to the body part you are working. take biceps, i think you should do close grip and wide grip on barbell curls. then, in the same workout, pick up some dumbells and do hammer curls, isolation, or regular. whatever you have the energy to do. just dont hurt the muscles. there are many different exercises, that in my opinion , should be done for the same body part in a workout day. ie. shoulders: 'press, front and side raise, shrug, cable raises' remember, i am no pro, but i hope that info helps
 
thanks for the help. i looked at madcows site but i dont need to do the squats or dead lift cuz i have a leg workout program for track at school. but i decided to do workouts according to movement. like monday and thursday i will do push and tuesday and friday i will do pull. and i decided to do two exercises for each body part that i want to isolate. like for biceps im doing barbell and dumbell curls. and for shoulders im doing shoulder press and shrugs. does this sound decent?
 
jim2268 said:
thanks for the help. i looked at madcows site but i dont need to do the squats or dead lift cuz i have a leg workout program for track at school. but i decided to do workouts according to movement. like monday and thursday i will do push and tuesday and friday i will do pull. and i decided to do two exercises for each body part that i want to isolate. like for biceps im doing barbell and dumbell curls. and for shoulders im doing shoulder press and shrugs. does this sound decent?

Push/ pull is not a good way to work out.
 
jim2268 said:
im making my own workout schedule and have some questions. i was wondering that do i need to exercise a body part more than once in a workout. like for shoulders, should i do shoulder press and do shrugs or just shoulder press. and for biceps should i do barbell curls and dumbell curls or just dumbell curls? also im doing a bulk workout. thanks

What are you looking to do?You want to gain size? or is this for track to make you faster?
 
jim2268 said:
im making my own workout schedule and have some questions. i was wondering that do i need to exercise a body part more than once in a workout. like for shoulders, should i do shoulder press and do shrugs or just shoulder press. and for biceps should i do barbell curls and dumbell curls or just dumbell curls? also im doing a bulk workout. thanks

We need a lot more information. What's your diet like? How old are you just wondering?
 
im 17 and weigh 152. i want to get bigger (chest, shoulders, biceps, triceps) and its for bulk not for track. i get about 3500 calories a day. personally i think i have a good diet i try to get as many clean calories that i can.
 
Azinine said:
Why is that?

From Madcow's 5 x 5 site.

Full Body or Most of Body - "Training Lifts"
If at any stage of experience your goal is to add as much muscle as quickly as possible, the objectives you will stress will be raising your best compound lifts in some viable range - best set of 5, 8, or 10 maybe best 5x5, or 3x8 or whatever. That and the eating is the best way to add muscle and generate the adaptation you are seeking. And the organization for that? Well doing those lifts 1x per week and throwing in a bunch of garbage is a pretty crap way to get better at them. If you have any clue, you would not select some outrageous 5 day bodypart split with tons of exercises and train the lifts 1x per week. In this kind of training you focus on lifts, not bodyparts and generally it doesn't get more complicated than upper/lower. For the record, I don't believe in push/pull/legs because that's basically chest/back/legs and you are right at the cusp of a bodypart split.
 
jim2268 said:
thanks for the help. i looked at madcows site but i dont need to do the squats or dead lift cuz i have a leg workout program for track at school. but i decided to do workouts according to movement. like monday and thursday i will do push and tuesday and friday i will do pull. and i decided to do two exercises for each body part that i want to isolate. like for biceps im doing barbell and dumbell curls. and for shoulders im doing shoulder press and shrugs. does this sound decent?

ok, as far as push/pull goes, not so sure it is a good idea. try this. chest&triceps, back&biceps, shoulders&forearms, legs. they all stay with the same concept as in chest&tri is all push. back is pull, and biceps can be both. shoulders is push, forearms is pull, maybe push, and legs is both. you need to alternate, just to be on the safe side. and all these incorporate both muscle groups with the most effective muscle groups. it worked great for me, but i know all body types are different. just try it out for a couple weeks, and if you would like a sample of the exercises for each day, send me a PM and i will try and help you out
 
rollinsusmc said:
ok, as far as push/pull goes, not so sure it is a good idea. try this. chest&triceps, back&biceps, shoulders&forearms, legs. they all stay with the same concept as in chest&tri is all push. back is pull, and biceps can be both. shoulders is push, forearms is pull, maybe push, and legs is both. you need to alternate, just to be on the safe side. and all these incorporate both muscle groups with the most effective muscle groups. it worked great for me, but i know all body types are different. just try it out for a couple weeks, and if you would like a sample of the exercises for each day, send me a PM and i will try and help you out

That is pretty much the 5 day, one body part/ day BB split, which is the absolute worst way to lift if you want to gain size and strength.

Read my quote above.
 
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