New prospective user - Seeking advice

[rich_89]

Greetings everyone.

My name is Richard and i'm just looking for some advice with regards to potentially using some enhancers to accelerate my progress and gain some (noticeable) results.

I've had a glance through the stickied threads, and as per request here are my stats.

Weight: 11st 2 lb (so 156 lb) or (70.7 kg)
Height: 5'8"

I've been training for approximately 2 years now, and have seen some results, but none that i am happy with. I do a quite a lot of cardio excercise (i'm a keen long distance endurance runner) and also do weight training. I train at least 3 times a week, but usually more.

My diet is generally good, at the moment i'm currently taking in about 2000 good calories a day, consisting of a mix of proteins and carbohydrates, but minimal fats. I use whey protein supplements and eat protein meal replacement bars, but i'm convinced these have minimal if any benefits.

I talked to a friend at my gym who has a very good body, and good strength. I asked him his secret and he pointed me in the direction of a short steroid course, to kick start my gains and restore some confidence (which is starting to waver after 2 years of training with practically nothing to show for it). Following his advice, i purchased some 'Naposim' 5mg, which i believe is 'Dianabol'.

However, after reading up on them in more detail (i haven't actually taken them yet) i have realised that simply taking them blindly is not the best way to move forward, and would appreciate some advice on how best to take them, and how to avoid side effects effectively, as some of them do worry me.

I've been told 8 per day would be a good dose, so a 40mg dose, but i'm not sure if that is good for a total beginner.

I have already purchased milk thistle to combat any Liver problems, but i still don't feel totally confident.

Any help would be very much appreciated. Thanks everyone

 

[bigdog2010]

hey bro, thats the very first cycle i ran. naposims. you could take them by all means but its not going to make any difference for you eating only 2000 calories a day.
just to gain naturally you need to be eating somewhere over 3000 calories a day and if you was going to be taking the naposims you would need to eat more.

i would say get somepeople on here to help you with your diet and then train naturally for a bit longer.


trust me diet is more possibly more important that training. you can train every day perfectly and eat ok and still not make any gains where as someone could eat perfectly and train hear and there and make gains. i was in your situation for 2 years with nothing happening and no one told me how important my diet was for years

 

[PJuice]

I would suggest you do a little more research. What are your goals, what do you expect out of this cycle, PCT?? Research, Research, Research before you put anything into your body. That being said, I wouldnt do a dbol only cycle. The gains are fast but can be somewhat watery. Hence, post cycle, a lot of your gains dissappear. I would suggest some form of test as a base. As mentioned, a SOLID diet is key. I would say u do some more reading before you pursue the use of AAS.

 

[rich_89]

Hello again.

Apologies i didn't mention, my goals are to keep my trim body, but bulk up my arms and upper body. (So targeting my Biceps, Triceps, Deltoids, and Pectorals). I have quite a decent body, with visible abdominals, but my arms are small in comparison to the rest of my body, and my pectorals are not visible. I wish to remedy this.

I have done some research, that's why i am here, for some expert advice (where better?). If i sort out my diet, hopefully with some of your help, how would be best to take the Naposim, if at all?

I'm aware that gains disappear with the cessation of use, so any advice on PCT would be appreciated. And what is best to use during to avoid side effects? And here is best to obtain these in your experience.

Thanks again.

 

[d_rson]

Richard, welcome!

Don't do a steroid cycle yet. You're not ready. AAS is icing on the cake, you have to bake the cake first with good diet, good training, and you need to reach close to your natural weight - and then use AAS to push you past that barrier.

Your diet needs work. Minimal fats aren't going to cut it. 2000 calories isn't going to cut it. I suggest going over to diet and training section

You say that you are an endurance runner, but also into lifting weights. You might need to make a decision between the two, at least in the short term, if you want to put on decent weight. Not saying you can't do both, but your training and diet for your endurance running is probably what is causing your strength and muscle gains to suffer.

Why don't you post your complete diet and weight training program here and we'll take a look. I would bet tweaking those two will superstart you into gaining some weight - your body is probably primed and ready to gain, you just aren't supplying it the right fuel or function to get moving.

Again, my recommendation is to not do AAS yet.

 

[bigdog2010]

if you was to use the dose you suggested is fine with a nolvadex pct.

you will gain a lot of water so think your gaining muscle but most of this will disapear during pct. say you gain 10lbs from the cycle you will probably be left with around 2/3 pounds or so of muscle.
if your diet is not higher then your be lucky to get them 2-3 pounds.

id just stick to getting your diet on track and on key. then see how you go for a few months

 

[d_rson]

But as an aside, dbol is not a good choice for you for your goals anyway. If you insist on doing a cycle, then post that you are and you can get some good recommendations for a first cycle that is in tune for your goals and includes PCT recommendations to keep all your gains and even grow more in PCT. But I still say avoid AAS for now and get everything else in check. It just sounds like you need a good upper body routine where are you are tearing up muscle, and a diet to supply the needed healthy fats and protein to actually build muscle. At 2000 calories, you're not getting enough protein, and if you are avoiding fats, you could be missing heathly fats that the body uses to make anabolic hormones!

 

[rich_89]

Thanks for all responses.

I will take the advice given and post in the diet section, and seek help getting my diet right. I'm always conscious about eating too much though, as i have quite a poor metabolism and tend to put weight on in the form of a podgy belly!

But nonetheless, i'll try anything. Thanks so much for your guidance.

 

[Nelson Montana]

At your weight you can make great gains with just supps.

 

[rich_89]

At your weight you can make great gains with just supps.

I take whey protein shakes when i wake up, after a workout and before bed and i eat protein meal replacement bars presently sir.

I do weight training a minimum of three times a week.

I just can't seem to make my arms grow to a size i'm happy with. That's why i considered the Naposims.

Is there maybe something in my workout that i am missing?